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Idiots! These people hurt our cause. NO ONE should go around looking for criminals.
 
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Idiots! These people hurt our cause. NOONE should go around looking for criminals.

I completely disagree.

No one IS looking for criminals, that would be the problem. Congress and Lyin' Barack Ivory Tower Obama's Administration ARE legislating piddly-ass "criminals" into existence, which is blatantly mercenary and unchristian. But Bad Guys are swashbuckling with impunity. And cops are HIDING IN BUSHES to issue oh-so-lucrative speeding tickets to an already beleaguered citizenry.
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GANSTA GOVERNMENT BREEDS GANG ACTIVITY. IT STANDS TO REASON. PRESUMING OFFICIALS ARE NOT STUPID, THEY ENCOURAGE CRIME = ECONOMIC STIMULUS.
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Officialdom's refusal to address increasing police brutality willfully pits Law Enforcement against People, when Officialdom is the problem.
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Violence against police property in Seattle is not surprising. What kind of country has annual ANTI POLICE BRUTALITY protests? A brutal one.
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TOMBSTONE JUSTICE PLAYS IN PEORIA.
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I completely disagree.

No one IS looking for criminals, that would be the problem. Congress and Lyin' Barack Ivory Tower Obama's Administration ARE legislating piddly-ass "criminals" into existence, which is blatantly mercenary and unchristian. But Bad Guys are swashbuckling with impunity. And cops are HIDING IN BUSHES to issue oh-so-lucrative speeding tickets to an already beleaguered citizenry.
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MindOfMo
GANSTA GOVERNMENT BREEDS GANG ACTIVITY. IT STANDS TO REASON. PRESUMING OFFICIALS ARE NOT STUPID, THEY ENCOURAGE CRIME = ECONOMIC STIMULUS.
1:12 PM Oct 24th from web
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MindOfMo
Officialdom's refusal to address increasing police brutality willfully pits Law Enforcement against People, when Officialdom is the problem.
1:09 PM Oct 24th from web
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MindOfMo
Violence against police property in Seattle is not surprising. What kind of country has annual ANTI POLICE BRUTALITY protests? A brutal one.
1:08 PM Oct 24th from web
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MindOfMo
TOMBSTONE JUSTICE PLAYS IN PEORIA.
10:59 PM Oct 23rd from web
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You have the right to defend yourself, but why go looking for trouble? You are possibly creating crime that otherwise would not have occured by doing this. He said he was "fishing for criminals", this hurts our cause in the court of public opinion. Let me add, I agree with their right to do this. It is my opinion that this is not smart and it creates a bad opinion of CCers.
 
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You have the right to defend yourself, but why go looking for trouble?

It is scarcely a matter of LOOKING for trouble. We got Trouble right here in River City. Everywhere you look.

It is now a matter of who will continue to sidestep trouble for self-preservation, and who will confront it.

I'm for confronting it. I think Americans have been milquetoast pansies for long enough.



You are possibly creating crime that otherwise would not have occured by doing this.

Are you suggesting that criminals only behave like criminals when they feel hunted?




He said he was "fishing for criminals", this hurts our cause in the court of public opinion.

If two young men electing to defend themselves AND OTHERS hurts your Cause, I advise you to revisit your Cause.

And maybe read the thread about the step-right-up-git-yer-ringside-seats Gang Bang.
 
It is scarcely a matter of LOOKING for trouble. We got Trouble right here in River City. Everywhere you look.

It is now a matter of who will continue to sidestep trouble for self-preservation, and who will confront it.

I'm for confronting it. I think Americans have been milquetoast pansies for long enough.




Are you suggesting that criminals only behave like criminals when they feel hunted?





If two young men electing to defend themselves AND OTHERS hurts your Cause, I advise you to revisit your Cause. And maybe read the thread about the step-right-up-git-yer-ringside-seats Gang Bang.

I'm torn here. Like jth_ttu, I feel like banging my head against cement every time someone does something politically stupid in the name of something I also believe in. At the same time, I admire the courage it takes to say, "Screw hiding from criminals safely in my house and being afraid to walk the 'wrong streets.' I'm going to go wherever I damn well please, and nobody had better dare touch me or anyone else around me." That said, actually "fishing for criminals" is indeed taking it a bit far into The Brave One territory (first vigilante movie that popped into my mind).
 
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...I admire the courage it takes to say, "Screw hiding from criminals safely in my house and being afraid to walk the 'wrong streets.' I'm going to go wherever I damn well please, and nobody had better dare touch me or anyone else around me."

THAT'S the ticket.

Bullies are NEVER niced out of being Bullies. Nor reasoned out of it. Nor educated out of it. Nor WAITED out of it. If Bullies will do any backing down, it will be in the face of LIKE FORCE, period. That's as true of White Collar Bullies as it is of Street Bullies, by the by.



That said, actually "fishing for criminals" is indeed taking it a bit far into The Brave One territory (first vigilante movie that popped into my mind).

THEY'RE TWENTY-SOMETHINGS.

You'd be AMAZED how often I hear 20-somethings say stupid stuff.

They are men of ACTION and, from where I sit, that is what we desperately need. They are people who mean it when they say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
 
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THAT'S the ticket.

Bullies are NEVER niced out of being Bullies. Nor reasoned out of it. Nor educated out of it. If Bullies will do any backing down, it will be in the face of LIKE FORCE, period. That's as true of White Collar Bullies as it is of Street Bullies, by the by.





THEY'RE TWENTY-SOMETHINGS.

You'd be AMAZED how often I hear 20-somethings say stupid stuff.
I'm no stranger to 20-somethings, considering I am one, and we're not all incapable of restraint. ;)

They are men of ACTION and, from where I sit, that is what we desperately need. They are people who mean it when they say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
That's why I can't help but respect them, even if this does end badly in the political sense. I hope they inspire people and scare the piss out of violent criminals, but being a cynical person, I have my doubts.
 
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It is now a matter of who will continue to sidestep trouble for self-preservation, and who will confront it. .

I dont look for trouble, but if it finds me I will always be ready to confront it.

Are you suggesting that criminals only behave like criminals when they feel hunted?.

No criminals could rob someone regardles of whether or not they are being hunted, but when you are hunting criminals your intention is to create a situation where a crime will occur to justify you using deadly force.

If two young men electing to defend themselves AND OTHERS hurts your Cause, I advise you to revisit your Cause. .

My cause is completely restoring second amendment rights. To do this we must have public support and when people say something to hurt our cause on National Televison it makes me mad. Like I said if they want to do it I support their right to as long as they don't endanger or hurt innocent people in the process, but it is not a smart move.
 
I just hope these kids take the time to educate themselves about the proper usage and handling of the $159.00 firearms they just purchased.
Other than that, they got a permit so go for it.
 
I dont look for trouble, but if it finds me I will always be ready to confront it.



No criminals could rob someone regardles of whether or not they are being hunted, but when you are hunting criminals your intention is to create a situation where a crime will occur to justify you using deadly force.

I have conceded exuberantly imprudent speech. Whaddya wanna bet it was their first time on teevee? HOWEVER, comma, roaming around Prepared with an eye out for criminals does NOT incite the crime that, in fact, MAY be interrupted by Roaming Prepared Good Guys.

Cruising around Prepared, Looking, Ready -- what they unwisely called FISHING -- is not the same thing as hunting ducks where you provoke the prey to fly up into the open. No criminal calls to mirror bird calls, alas.




My cause is completely restoring second amendment rights. To do this we must have public support...

And yet . . . whenever John Q. Public expresses his support by actually DOING what supporters TALK about, they get labeled as radical.

American Politics is like American Crime . . . fear-based and highly profitable. These guys are pushing back from the table. Good on them.



...it is not a smart move.

Again, I completely disagree. Unless and until American Officials and American Criminals become AFRAID -- like they have made Rank & File afraid -- NOTHING will change. Why SHOULD Bad Guys change? They're makin' money AND enjoying heightened security, as is.
 
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I just hope these kids take the time to educate themselves about the proper usage and handling of the $159.00 firearms they just purchased.
Other than that, they got a permit so go for it.

Sooo, are ya sayin' that stuffing the gun down his crotch could have regrettable consequences?
 
It's easy to bait a criminal. Look like a victim. Eyes to the ground, shuffle when you walk, keep your hands in your pockets, have a large wallet bulging from your back pocket.

I doubt these boys are good enough actors to pull it off. Wolves look for sheep, and avoid sheepdogs.
 
I have conceded exuberantly imprudent speech. Whaddya wanna bet it was their first time on teevee? HOWEVER, comma, roaming around Prepared with an eye out for criminals does NOT incite the crime that, in fact, MAY be interrupted by Roaming Prepared Good Guys..

I agree completely with you. I am always prepared to defend myself.

Cruising around Prepared, Looking, Ready -- what they unwisely called FISHING -- is not the same thing as hunting ducks where you provoke the prey to fly up into the open. No criminal calls to mirror bird calls, alas. .

The way I interpreted their statemnet was that they were going out of their way to hunt down and find bad guys. If they didnt mean this they must have just chosen poor wording.

And yet . . . whenever John Q. Public expresses his support by actually DOING what supporters TALK about, they get labeled as radical.

American Politics is like American Crime . . . fear-based and highly profitable. These guys are pushing back from the table. Good on them. .

I never called them radical. I simply said it was not smart to go out of your way to find trouble and most people will look down on CC because of their statement.



Again, I completely disagree. Unless and until American Officials and American Criminals become AFRAID -- like they have made Rank & File afraid -- NOTHING will change. Why SHOULD Bad Guys change? They're makin' money AND enjoying heightened security, as is.

It is not my job to rid the world of evil. When Evil comes my way I will confront it. If other people choose not to defend theirselves that is their misfortune and not my problem.
 
They were not good representatives of those with CCW. One of the dummies covers his buddy with his muzzle after inserting the magazine (watch @ ~30 sec.). Then, they carry like retard gangsters without a holster in their waste band. Nothing wrong with carrying in your waste band, i.e. appendix carry, but you should have a proper holster.
 
You have the right to defend yourself, but why go looking for trouble? You are possibly creating crime that otherwise would not have occured by doing this. He said he was "fishing for criminals", this hurts our cause in the court of public opinion. Let me add, I agree with their right to do this. It is my opinion that this is not smart and it creates a bad opinion of CCers.

Why go looking for trouble? I'd say it's much cheaper than hiring more LEOs to go looking for us! I think it would be great if more citizens did this as long as they are not provoking people and don't infringe on anyone's rights.

Hats off to these folks, i sure wouldn't go out with them, but their cause seems worthy
 
ehh?... "fishing for criminals"?

It's one thing to carry a concealed firearm for protection. It's very different matter to put yourself out their as "bait" with the intent of getting into a armed confrontation with criminals. Brave or foolish, I don't know.

I really hope they don't find what they are looking for.
 
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