Scrapmo
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I found very little interesting about the George Zimmerman trial. To me there were only two interesting aspects of the trial. One; The slice of Americana phenomenon of the media circus and its ability to get people whipped into a frenzy over inconsequential issues. Even on this site, the Zimmerman Trial got nearly 100 pages of post, when ultimately the outcome would only affect a handful of people, where as the NSA, IRS and the Federal government in general affects every American citizen. But this has been discussed elsewhere and will not be the focus of this topic.
The second point and the focus on this topic will be trying to understand why the negative reaction to the trial is so Universal in the black community and how can we use this to advance the cause of liberty.
Most white people saw the case of George Zimmerman case as playing the race card, race baiting and hypocritical nature of racism itself. Black people see the case much differently. They see the case as a golden example of deep rooted social injustices of American culture. Why such a dichotomy? I think the answer is because, generally speaking black people and white people experience two different Americas. Most black people, especially young black males, have experienced profiling. They have been stopped, questioned, frisked and harassed without reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed and at a much higher rate than other people. This is why they see this case as monumentally important and this is on area where we can attack the bond that the state has on the black community.
Regardless of this case we, as a freedom and liberty oriented group, have a disgust for unwarranted games of 20 questions with our protectors in blue. This is a common issue of discontent we share with the black community. So one strategy that could be implemented, is whenever your hear of a black individual lamenting the courts decree, relate the issue back to the injustice of police harassment without probable cause while citing the recent comments of Mayor Bloomberg stating that black individuals are not stopped enough. From that discourse it is easy to embark on a wide variety of fruitful discussions on state abuses against the black community. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, the War on Drugs, the War on poverty, the higher incarceration rates amongst blacks versus other races for similar crimes; all of these are issues which can be used to point out THE STATE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. Why, after all the human rights injustices the state has committed against this block of people, are they not universally anti-government. I don't know, but the outcome of the Zimmerman trial, without agreeing or disagreeing with the courts decision, can begin the discussion.
I don't know whether Zimmerman was guilty or not and to be honest, I really don't care. He was given his trial found not guilty and should be sent on his way without further harassment. There are over 16,000 homicides a year and this one is no more important to me than any of the others. There are more important things happening in our country right now. Instead of having this divide why not use it to unite against government tyranny, which is something that effects all of us?
Has the black community treated this trial objectively? Obviously not. Has the black community revealed its own racist tendencies during this trial? Absolutely. Was Martin profiled because of his appearance? I believe so. I also believe that Martin's anger over being profiled was justifiable as does the black community. But where I would disagree with the black community is that anger does not justify initiation of violence. I don't know who initiated violence first, the only person who knows for sure is Zimmerman. It is also largely irrelevant at this point.
Many of you here have strong opinions over this trial. I believe that Zimmerman and Martin were both guilty of poor judgement and male bravado, which started a chain of events that night. But there are many here who believe that Zimmerman was fully justified in his actions from beginning to end. To those I would like to ask two questions.
What if Martin had been white?
What if Zimmerman had been a cop?
If those two postulates had been true we assuredly we would have been asking for Zimmerman's head on a pike in an AntiFedearlists police abuse report.
So try and understand the position the black community has taken with the trial in question and try to use it to advance the cause of freedom.
I will now accept all neg reps and criticism.
The second point and the focus on this topic will be trying to understand why the negative reaction to the trial is so Universal in the black community and how can we use this to advance the cause of liberty.
Most white people saw the case of George Zimmerman case as playing the race card, race baiting and hypocritical nature of racism itself. Black people see the case much differently. They see the case as a golden example of deep rooted social injustices of American culture. Why such a dichotomy? I think the answer is because, generally speaking black people and white people experience two different Americas. Most black people, especially young black males, have experienced profiling. They have been stopped, questioned, frisked and harassed without reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed and at a much higher rate than other people. This is why they see this case as monumentally important and this is on area where we can attack the bond that the state has on the black community.
Regardless of this case we, as a freedom and liberty oriented group, have a disgust for unwarranted games of 20 questions with our protectors in blue. This is a common issue of discontent we share with the black community. So one strategy that could be implemented, is whenever your hear of a black individual lamenting the courts decree, relate the issue back to the injustice of police harassment without probable cause while citing the recent comments of Mayor Bloomberg stating that black individuals are not stopped enough. From that discourse it is easy to embark on a wide variety of fruitful discussions on state abuses against the black community. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, the War on Drugs, the War on poverty, the higher incarceration rates amongst blacks versus other races for similar crimes; all of these are issues which can be used to point out THE STATE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. Why, after all the human rights injustices the state has committed against this block of people, are they not universally anti-government. I don't know, but the outcome of the Zimmerman trial, without agreeing or disagreeing with the courts decision, can begin the discussion.
I don't know whether Zimmerman was guilty or not and to be honest, I really don't care. He was given his trial found not guilty and should be sent on his way without further harassment. There are over 16,000 homicides a year and this one is no more important to me than any of the others. There are more important things happening in our country right now. Instead of having this divide why not use it to unite against government tyranny, which is something that effects all of us?
Has the black community treated this trial objectively? Obviously not. Has the black community revealed its own racist tendencies during this trial? Absolutely. Was Martin profiled because of his appearance? I believe so. I also believe that Martin's anger over being profiled was justifiable as does the black community. But where I would disagree with the black community is that anger does not justify initiation of violence. I don't know who initiated violence first, the only person who knows for sure is Zimmerman. It is also largely irrelevant at this point.
Many of you here have strong opinions over this trial. I believe that Zimmerman and Martin were both guilty of poor judgement and male bravado, which started a chain of events that night. But there are many here who believe that Zimmerman was fully justified in his actions from beginning to end. To those I would like to ask two questions.
What if Martin had been white?
What if Zimmerman had been a cop?
If those two postulates had been true we assuredly we would have been asking for Zimmerman's head on a pike in an AntiFedearlists police abuse report.
So try and understand the position the black community has taken with the trial in question and try to use it to advance the cause of freedom.
I will now accept all neg reps and criticism.
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