US troops accused of handcuffing then executing 10 Afghan children

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(sorry if a repost, didnt see it elsewhere. Sorry my mistake: 8 children, 10 people total.)

No no, it's not blowback. They don't hate us because of things like this. They hate us because we have Ipods!! :rolleyes:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6971638.ece

American-led troops were accused yesterday of dragging innocent children from their beds and shooting them during a night raid that left ten people dead.

Afghan government investigators said that eight schoolchildren were killed, all but one of them from the same family. Locals said that some victims were handcuffed before being killed.

Western military sources said that the dead were all part of an Afghan terrorist cell responsible for manufacturing improvised explosive devices (IEDs), which have claimed the lives of countless soldiers and civilians.

“This was a joint operation that was conducted against an IED cell that Afghan and US officials had been developing information against for some time,” said a senior Nato insider. But he admitted that “the facts about what actually went down are in dispute”.

The allegations of civilian casualties led to protests in Kabul and Jalalabad, with children as young as 10 chanting “Death to America” and demanding that foreign forces should leave Afghanistan at once.

President Karzai sent a team of investigators to Narang district, in eastern Kunar province, after reports of a massacre first surfaced on Monday.

“The delegation concluded that a unit of international forces descended from a plane Sunday night into Ghazi Khan village in Narang district of the eastern province of Kunar and took ten people from three homes, eight of them school students in grades six, nine and ten, one of them a guest, the rest from the same family, and shot them dead,” a statement on President Karzai’s website said.

Assadullah Wafa, who led the investigation, said that US soldiers flew to Kunar from Kabul, suggesting that they were part of a special forces unit.

“At around 1 am, three nights ago, some American troops with helicopters left Kabul and landed around 2km away from the village,” he told The Times. “The troops walked from the helicopters to the houses and, according to my investigation, they gathered all the students from two rooms, into one room, and opened fire.” Mr Wafa, a former governor of Helmand province, met President Karzai to discuss his findings yesterday. “I spoke to the local headmaster,” he said. “It’s impossible they were al-Qaeda. They were children, they were civilians, they were innocent. I condemn this attack.”

In a telephone interview last night, the headmaster said that the victims were asleep in three rooms when the troops arrived. “Seven students were in one room,” said Rahman Jan Ehsas. “A student and one guest were in another room, a guest room, and a farmer was asleep with his wife in a third building.

“First the foreign troops entered the guest room and shot two of them. Then they entered another room and handcuffed the seven students. Then they killed them. Abdul Khaliq [the farmer] heard shooting and came outside. When they saw him they shot him as well. He was outside. That’s why his wife wasn’t killed.”

A local elder, Jan Mohammed, said that three boys were killed in one room and five were handcuffed before they were shot. “I saw their school books covered in blood,” he said.

The investigation found that eight of the victims were aged from 11 to 17. The guest was a shepherd boy, 12, called Samar Gul, the headmaster said. He said that six of the students were at high school and two were at primary school. He said that all the students were his nephews. In Jalalabad, protesters set alight a US flag and an effigy of President Obama after chanting “Death to Obama” and “Death to foreign forces”. In Kabul, protesters held up banners showing photographs of dead children alongside placards demanding “Foreign troops leave Afghanistan” and “Stop killing us”.

Hekmatullah, 10, a protester, said: “We’re sick of Americans bombing us.” Samiullah Miakhel, 60, a protester. said: “The Americans are just all the time killing civilians.”

Nato’s International Security Assistance Force said that there was “no direct evidence to substantiate” Mr Wafa’s claims that unarmed civilians were harmed in what it described as a “joint coalition and Afghan security force” operation.

“As the joint assault force entered the village they came under fire from several buildings and in returning fire killed nine individuals,” he said.

• Eight Americans were killed in an attack in eastern Afghanistan yesterday (Jerome Starkey writes). Nato’s International Security Assistance Force said that the dead were not uniformed soldiers. Afghan sources said that they were civilians killed in a suicide attack on a compound in Khost province. The US Embassy in Kabul said: “Eight Americans have been killed in an attack on RC-East,” referring to the military region of eastern Afghanistan that includes 14 provinces.

Another link here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/200346-Shooting-Handcuffed-Children

I wonder every time I hear someone say "The troops would never turn their guns on Americans". I guess we'll see what the exact facts are (maybe) but even if this story is not true it STILL creates brand new terrorists all over the world, simply because we are there and the story is plausible. Nothing is to be gained by furthering this occupation of Afghanistan.
 
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Nothing is to be gained by furthering this occupation of Afghanistan.

well I can think of a couple of things,

securing an oil pipeline

selling equipment to supply forces there


both of these could be key reasons for US corporations to want us there for their gain...and isn't corporate America's gain really what it's all about?? Too big to fail??
 
I heard about the story last week when it was said that the people who were behind the executions were not associated with the NATO forces. From what I also remember news sources were saying that the people who were executed were suspected of making bombs or something like that. Which most likely is bull.

The fact of the matter is no one has been implicated yet and nobody probably will be if it was some kind of black operation.
 
I heard about the story last week when it was said that the people who were behind the executions were not associated with the NATO forces. From what I also remember news sources were saying that the people who were executed were suspected of making bombs or something like that. Which most likely is bull.
The fact of the matter is no one has been implicated yet and nobody probably will be if it was some kind of black operation.

Our, as I like to call them, 'ill-conceived legislation', have been spreading 'propaganda' to ignite these conflitcs in order to accomplish what they want to indeed accomplish, by any means necessery. If you have noticed, everytime there is a report on a suicide bomb attack, you'll always hear: 'Al Qaeda claimed responsibilty.' :rolleyes: We're actually using the method Hitler used in order to invade Poland, which is telling one lie to another, and that no questions would be given to the victor.

Cinderella, I agree with you one hundred percent.
 
wow, no wonder the suicide rate is going up up up
That remark is spot on!
If you are on the side of the angels any behaviour is legit.
The only people who can sort America out are Americans. And the only Americans who seem to know what is really going on are you guys and that puts rather alot of responsibility on your mostly young shoulders.
 
What is happening over there is turning honest American's who most of them joined the forces because they had no choice into psychopaths.
Ever heard of PTSD?

I would like to point out that soldiers are trained to kill, that is their job. Punishing the soldiers involved in these acts will not stop a war from producing atrocities...for that is the nature of war.

Is this really anything out of the ordinary, when you consider the May lai massacre in Vietnam, 500 were killed then if my memory serves me correctly, by one US platoon, they went to jail for like 1 year i think. But hey Vietnamese, they are not US citizens, so they are not really people are they.

The fact of the mater is, if this is true it's is a barbaric act of terrorism, but then again so is, xbox jockeys controlling unmanned drones that drop bombs on the innocent.

Who is training these people?

If people do not want to see "war crimes" maybe we need to do away with, and outgrow war altogether?
 
If people do not want to see "war crimes" maybe we need to do away with, and outgrow war altogether?
Now there's an idea! Too lucrative though.
 
I smell BS in this whole story.

Why would a child-killing monster waste handcuffs when using
bomblets, that are disguised as toys, is so much more fun?

What's next, exploding pacifiers for infants?
 
well i can think of a couple of things,

securing an oil pipeline

selling equipment to supply forces there

both of these could be key reasons for us corporations to want us there for their gain...and isn't corporate america's gain really what it's all about?? Too big to fail??

CIA Heroin security for Bush/Clinton family drug cartel #1 priority
 
If this is true, these are not kids of our own race or nation, bit of over reaction here. Too much compassion for people of other countries around lately.
 
I smell BS in this whole story.

Why would a child-killing monster waste handcuffs when using
bomblets, that are disguised as toys, is so much more fun?

What's next, exploding pacifiers for infants?

Good points.

Red Cross Warns Afghan Children Off Cluster Bombs

Reuters, June 29, 2002

KABUL, Afghanistan (Reuters) - The Red Cross has warned Afghan children not to play with unexploded yellow cluster bomblets dropped on Afghanistan by the United States last year that look a little like toys.

The bomblets were dropped in cluster bombs in an aerial campaign to help U.S.-backed rebels overthrow Afghanistan's Islamist Taliban rulers.

http://www.rawa.org/cluster2.htm

January 12, 1987

The Report that the U.N. Wants to Suppress : Soviet Atrocities in Afghanistan
by Pilon, Juliana Geran

... Thousands of children have been killed by Soviet bombs disguised as toys; ...

http://www.heritage.org/Research/InternationalOrganizations/bg556.cfm
 
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This didn't get much attention when it came out but I wonder what the reaction would have been if this was on video.


There's so many examples of the recent conduct being systemic but I guess it doesn't get much attention when there's no gruesome video to watch.
Here's another one:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/afghanistan/article7087637.ece

US Special Forces tried to cover up botched raid 4-5-2010

US special forces soldiers dug bullets out of their victims’ bodies in the bloody aftermath of a botched night raid, then washed the wounds with alcohol before lying to their superiors about what happened, Afghan investigators have told The Times.

Two pregnant women, a teenage girl, a police officer and his brother were shot on February 12 when US and Afghan special forces stormed their home in Khataba village, outside Gardez in eastern Afghanistan. The precise composition of the force has never been made public.

The claims were made as Nato admitted responsibility for all the deaths for the first time last night. It had initially claimed that the women had been dead for several hours when the assault force discovered their bodies.

“Despite earlier reports we have determined that the women were accidentally killed as a result of the joint force firing at the men,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Todd Breasseale, a Nato spokesman. The coalition continued to deny that there had been a cover-up and said that its legal investigation, which is ongoing, had found no evidence of inappropriate conduct.

more at link

This is systemic folks.
 
I smell BS in this whole story.

Why would a child-killing monster waste handcuffs when using
bomblets, that are disguised as toys, is so much more fun?

What's next, exploding pacifiers for infants?

Why did the San Francisco Police handcuff Oscar, lay him face down, and then shoot him in the back? Who knows why these armed thugs do what they do.
 
well I can think of a couple of things,

securing an oil pipeline

selling equipment to supply forces there


both of these could be key reasons for US corporations to want us there for their gain...and isn't corporate America's gain really what it's all about?? Too big to fail??

don't forget one of the CIA's sideline businesses :OPIUM..
 
Dragon and Bear VS. Eagle and Elephant

Nothing is to be gained by furthering this occupation of Afghanistan.

Except for the containment of Iran, the world's largest sponsor of terrorism.

And keeping an eye on Pakistan, a nuclear armed pit of crazy Moos.

And keeping the SCO in check.

The 'democracy for the women and childrens sake" excuse is just a cover story.

The Great Game never ended....

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Was this satire or are you trolling or what?

Except for the containment of Iran, the world's largest sponsor of terrorism.

I think the US takes that prize these days.

And keeping an eye on Pakistan, a nuclear armed pit of crazy Moos.

Who's keeping an eye on Israel, a nuclear armed pit of crazy Joos? Oh wait, they're our "ally" so their crazy is a-ok.

And keeping the SCO in check.

Not our business to "keep the SCO in check" nor is it in the Constitution as a power of the federal government.

Thanks for playing.
 
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