US government “releases” kids to child traffickers

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Sarah Fabian, counsel for Trump´s Department of Justice, appeared before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco regarding a settlement that – according to her – doesn´t specify that sanitary products must be provided for detained migrant children.
Judge Tashima responded incredulously:

What are you saying, ‘may be?'
You mean, there’s circumstances when a person doesn’t need to have a toothbrush, toothpaste and soap? For days?

The settlement between advocates for young immigrants and the U.S. government says children should be held in facilities that meet certain standards and released as soon as possible (which is considered to be 20 days): http://www.fox5dc.com/news/trump-ad...en-may-not-necessarily-need-soap-toothbrushes

 

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Sarah Fabian, counsel for Trump´s Department of Justice, appeared before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco regarding a settlement that – according to her – doesn´t specify that sanitary products must be provided for detained migrant children.
Judge Tashima responded incredulously:



The settlement between advocates for young immigrants and the U.S. government says children should be held in facilities that meet certain standards and released as soon as possible (which is considered to be 20 days): http://www.fox5dc.com/news/trump-ad...en-may-not-necessarily-need-soap-toothbrushes

No brushing your teeth is not a necessity vital to life, nor is regular bathing, and the suggestion the US government must provide it for free to foreigners is ridiculous. No you don't get five star hotel accommodation. You wait in line to be processed, and you have to find a way to support yourself or you are denied entry and must return to your home country. That is how it has been for hundreds of years and the socialist bastards want to make everything free with the end goal the destruction of the United States.

 

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No brushing your teeth is not a necessity vital to life, nor is regular bathing, and the suggestion the US government must provide it for free to foreigners is ridiculous. No you don't get five star hotel accommodation. You wait in line to be processed, and you have to find a way to support yourself or you are denied entry and must return to your home country. That is how it has been for hundreds of years and the socialist bastards want to make everything free with the end goal the destruction of the United States.

Thanks a lot for explaining the true nature of American values...

 

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According to a recently released report by the US State Department, the United States was the number 1 nation of origin for victims of human trafficking in 2018 (followed by Mexico and the Philippines).

In 2017, the DOJ began 282 federal human trafficking prosecutions; this dropped to only 230 in 2018.
Federal convictions did rise from 499 in 2017 to 526 in 2018. More than 70% of the cases resulted in jail sentences longer than 5 years.

It´s a reasonable assumption that child trafficking is fueled by demand.
According to Geoff Rogers:

So there are tremendous numbers of kids, a multitude of kids that are being sold as sex slaves today in America. These are American kids, American-born, 50 percent to 60 percent of them coming out of the foster care industry.
Because of the demand, then these traffickers are filling that demand with supply. And the demand is so great here in the United States that they're filling the supply with our very own kids.

Brook Bello said:

We work with victims that are 3 years old and up. The average victim that we work with, that’s over 18, started being raped at three. Trafficking in America, if you are trafficked in the United States, 85 percent of victims that are trafficked here are from here.

These kids need help to escape from their traffickers.
While there are certainly people, who really try to help them, the majority won´t take any risk to keep their job in a system that´s designed to never eradicate human trafficking: https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-trafficking-in-america-among-worst-in-world-report
(archived here: http://archive.is/zROBN)

 

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Maybe Kamala Harris or Jerry Brown could have done something, but obviously they had better things to do (of course Donald Trump hasn’t stopped child trafficking in the USA either)…

California has gone from skimpy bikinis to the state where engaging in sex and sodomy with children is a definite plus in gaining full custody of those children. Ask Lexi Dillon, a nine year old girl who begged to be free from her foreign rich abuser and his family. The Tustin Police even tried to arrest Lexi’s rich abuser on multiple counts of sex with the child before he fled the country to avoid incarceration. Yet, while rape and sodomy were acceptable parenting practices to Lexi’s Orange County judges, those same judges punished the mother for taking the child to a doctor and for letting the child talk to the police.
For trying to help her daughter, Lexi’s mother lost custody of her daughter while the judge officially authorized the removal of the American child from the U.S. into the hands of the foreigner. It didn’t even matter if he had plans to share her with other foreigners, presumably in Thailand where he had citizenship, If Lexi’s childhood duties just involved satisfying her father’s sexual pleasure, why did he take and upload the thousand or so naked photos of little Lexi onto his computer? Though the Tustin police thought uploading naked photos of kids was illegal, the Orange County District Attorney thought otherwise and blocked the search warrant for the computer.
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No problem where California is concerned. San Diego’s Judge Gregory Pollack ordered full custody to the non-father and authorized him to take Jonah out of the country. A fake passport was prepared for the boy, which falsely identified an unrelated woman as the mother and it was “Bye-bye, America,” for the Alabama boy. Son of San, the door is open to you.

In the case of Jonah Rief, Judge Pollack stated in court, “I don’t care if somebody else is the father. I am going to make Brian Sullivan be the father.” In response to the Alabama order for a paternity test, Judge Pollack stated that if a DNA test showed Sullivan was not the father, “I [Pollack] will contest that DNA test.” Pollack worked hard to make sure that nothing could mess up the non-father’s rights by authorizing him to remove the boy from the country. Jonah Rief was last seen in Australia a day after his removal from the United States was authorized.

The non-father uploaded naked pictures of Jonah onto the net, which was apparently A-OK with California judges. Prior to getting the boy, the non-father or someone on his behalf also put misleading videos of the boy onto YouTube, encouraging others to kidnap the boy from his mother. An Alabama judge issued a protective order protecting the boy and the mother in response to the kidnapping solicitation from the non-father.

https://beforeitsnews.com/power-eli...s-at-risk-from-child-traffickers-2446738.html

Jonah’s parents have called on California Attorney General Kamala Harris and Governor Jerry Brown to take action to end the trafficking of children via the California court system.
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“Tammy Rief, who is from Georgia and has never lived in California, now sits in a California prison.”
Reportedly, an Alabama court ordered Brian Sullivan to keep away from Jonah, and another court order gave Tammy, the mother, full custody of Jonah. However, a California judge gave Sullivan, “a man documented to have abused Jonah”, the right “to steal Jonah”, from his home in Georgia.
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When the mother was allowed a visit from Jonah, the mother “saw Jonah had been battered and had rope burns on both wrists and on his ankles.” Jonah told his mother that his father had abused him along with several other men.
Tammy Rief took Jonah to the nearest out-of-state hospital. An examination showed Jonah had been physically and sexually abused.

However, the Arizona police arrested Tammy and Jonah and sent them back to Sullivan and Judge Pollack.
Judge Pollack charged Tammy with kidnapping Jonah and gave her a three-year prison sentence.

https://patriotjayecitizensinvestig...f-jonah-rief-kamala-harris-cps-ncmec-exposed/


I looked for “evidence” as I suspected that maybe this is another one of those fake “bombshell stories”.
I was convinced by what Jonah said when questioned by the cop. This if from the police report of the arrest of the loving mother Tammy Rief in 2012.

He advised that Mr. Brian was mean and that he put things in his butt. I asked him what kind of things. He advised he didn't know, that it hurts and that he had a sore there.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/214078952/Police-Report-in-Tammy-Rief-s-case

 

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During the 2020 elections campaign, Joe Biden promised to end the controversial child migrant detention facilities. But he was lying.
Biden is reopening a child migration prison in Texas to lock up 700 minor teenagers.

Some "progressive" Democrats have been trying to get some good publicity by criticising this policy of the Biden administration.
The best known of these is Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is joined by Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley, who together are known as "The Squad" (and have some genuine American-sounding names): https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...cs/aoc-biden-child-migrant-camp-b1806510.html

 

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The Biden administration has “lost track” of some 45,000 illegal immigrant children who arrived at the border between the US and Mexico.
This is more than 40% of the total of 114,000 missing person cases at the border in 2021.

Some have pointed out that not properly vetting the persons who take the migrant kids has contributed to apparently losing unaccompanied immigrant children.

Others pointed out the hypocrisy of the mainstream media being silent about Biden’s complicity in the child trafficking at the southern US border.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott got some publicity by saying that Biden “is presiding over the abuse of children” and should seal the border to stop the flow of illegal immigrants: https://headlineusa.com/biden-lose-track-45k-migrant-kids/

 

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While 4 families isn't exactly systematic, I do believe that stealing children by the Department of Health and Human Services is widespread, also in the state of Florida.
According to attorney Octavia Brown child kidnapping by the state is systemic in Florida, “It’s happening all over Florida”.

Four families have started lawsuits against Florida's Department of Children and Families (DCF), for stealing their children without good reason, and also violating state and federal law by not placing them with family members, and instead putting them in the custody of "connected" foster parents.


I don't think that you can personally blame Governor Ron DeSantis for this system that has been stealing children from their parents for decades, but I think it's a bad sign that DeSantis has boasted about taking children from their parents if they take them to “drag shows” (even though I'm no fan of this LGBT agenda): https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/f...rida-for-medically-kidnapping-their-children/

 

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While 4 families isn't exactly systematic, I do believe that stealing children by the Department of Health and Human Services is widespread, also in the state of Florida.
According to attorney Octavia Brown child kidnapping by the state is systemic in Florida, “It’s happening all over Florida”.

Four families have started lawsuits against Florida's Department of Children and Families (DCF), for stealing their children without good reason, and also violating state and federal law by not placing them with family members, and instead putting them in the custody of "connected" foster parents.


I don't think that you can personally blame Governor Ron DeSantis for this system that has been stealing children from their parents for decades, but I think it's a bad sign that DeSantis has boasted about taking children from their parents if they take them to “drag shows” (even though I'm no fan of this LGBT agenda): https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/f...rida-for-medically-kidnapping-their-children/

Why did you put "drag shows" in quotes? That was a disgusting event where adult male performers were getting tips put in their underwear and there was a sign in the background that said "It won't lick itself." If those had been female performers, feminists would have been outraged.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/202...-event-show-kids-inside-texas-gay-bar-n575066

In Dallas, a gay bar hosted a “Drag the Kids to Pride” event, aimed at little kids, with even babies in attendance. Drag queens danced in front of the little children, while the kids were encouraged to give them money. Some of the kids were even invited on stage to dance with the performers.​

And boys are being dressed up by their parents in drag and taken to gay bars where they dance for tips.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/child-abuse-accusations-11-year-old-drag-queen

Sorry, but Desantis is right on this one. This has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a "fan of LGBTQ." The line should be drawn in the sand against sexualization of children, and yes even by their so called "parents." I was arguing with one crazy liberal about this who "Would you have a problem with little girls in tiaras?" HELL YES I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT TOO IF THEY ARE IN A BAR DANCING FOR TIPS!!!! In fact I wasn't crazy about the whole Jon Benet Ramsey thing when it came out. I think that little cis-girl was possibly sexually abused by her parents. I'm certain their is a connection between her participating in child beauty pageants and her still unsolved murder. This is MUCH worse than the "drag queen story hour" that [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] complained about. That COULD be passed off as "normal" to some people. But children, at a bar, with adult performers dancing for tips, and being encouraged to dance WITH those adult performers, that's just sick and disgusting. It would be sick and disgusting if they adult performers were cis-women. What's the message being sent? "If you want to make a quick buck, sell your body." And again we already have cases of little boys dancing in drag at gay bars! And the New York CPS CLEARED the parents of any wrongdoing!"

This is America.

They really ARE coming for your children. And the parents willing going along with this are NOT legitimate parents.

Edit: And to be fair I am disgusted by this too. And she was a naturally born girl. (Jon Benet Ramsey).

 

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Why did you put "drag shows" in quotes?

Those weren't my words.
If you read the link, article by Brian who once posted here as @Created4, you can see that I made a short summary. I don't agree that DeSantis is morally to blame for the problem of child stealing in Florida in general (which I tried to explain in my previous post).

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Sorry, but Desantis is right on this one. This has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a "fan of LGBTQ." The line should be drawn in the sand against sexualization of children, and yes even by their so called "parents." I was arguing with one crazy liberal about this who "Would you have a problem with little girls in tiaras?" HELL YES I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT TOO IF THEY ARE IN A BAR DANCING FOR TIPS!!!!

So you're saying that in the liberty you promote it is up to the government (and crooked attorneys and judges) to decide who is entitled to raise children?
I can see music clips and Disney cartoons that "sexualize children". Should we also let the government take children away if they watch MTV?!?

I'm no lawyer, and have a problem in general with lawyers in general (as you probably have noticed). This is based on personal experiences of my own attorneys stabbing me in the back...
You're smart enough to figure out that one day some other governor (or other politician) will argue that "extreme right" is a danger to our values. And next thing you know parents that let their children watch a speech by Rand Paul will be taken away.

As for where I draw the line, situations when children should be taken away from their parents?!?
Luckily I don't have to judge, but physical abuse, and gross neglect (like not feeding a baby) are valid reasons to put children in government "care".

 

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Those weren't my words.
If you read the link, article by Brian who once posted here as @Created4, you can see that I made a short summary. I don't agree that DeSantis is morally to blame for the problem of child stealing in Florida in general (which I tried to explain in my previous post).

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So you're saying that in the liberty you promote it is up to the government (and crooked attorneys and judges) to decide who is entitled to raise children?
I can see music clips and Disney cartoons that "sexualize children". Should we also let the government take children away if they watch MTV?!?

I'm no lawyer, and have a problem in general with lawyers in general (as you probably have noticed). This is based on personal experiences of my own attorneys stabbing me in the back...
You're smart enough to figure out that one day some other governor (or other politician) will argue that "extreme right" is a danger to our values. And next thing you know parents that let their children watch a speech by Rand Paul will be taken away.

As for where I draw the line, situations when children should be taken away from their parents?!?
Luckily I don't have to judge, but physical abuse, and gross neglect (like not feeding a baby) are valid reasons to put children in government "care".

Call me old fashioned, but I don't think that if you want to rape your children you have the right to do that based on some misguided notion of liberty. I don't think you have the right to sell your children for other people to rape them. Extreme examples I know, but I hope you see my point. There is a HUGE difference between letting your children watch Disney cartoons and taking them to a gay bar and letting them dance for money. I also think there is a HUGE difference between letting your children watch Disney cartoons and taking them to a gay bar where they watch other people dance for money. The Disney cartoon that you're letting your kids watch (or the Playboy channel for that matter), can't turn around and offer you or your kids money to have sex with your kids. The men in the gay bar, who are already tipping underage drag queen kids, actually CAN offer you and your kids money. I think that's wrong. You're free to feel different about that. I'm curious as to why though.

 

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Call me old fashioned, but I don't think that if you want to rape your children you have the right to do that based on some misguided notion of liberty. I don't think you have the right to sell your children for other people to rape them.

You can call me paranoid but I don't trust corrupt courts to decide that children should be taken away from their parents as easily as you do.
Especially as in the overwhelming majority of cases, even when the parents are really "bad", the foster "care" is much worse.

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Extreme examples I know, but I hope you see my point. There is a HUGE difference between letting your children watch Disney cartoons and taking them to a gay bar and letting them dance for money. I also think there is a HUGE difference between letting your children watch Disney cartoons and taking them to a gay bar where they watch other people dance for money. The Disney cartoon that you're letting your kids watch (or the Playboy channel for that matter), can't turn around and offer you or your kids money to have sex with your kids. The men in the gay bar, who are already tipping underage drag queen kids, actually CAN offer you and your kids money. I think that's wrong. You're free to feel different about that. I'm curious as to why though.

So you say that in this specific situation we can hold parents accountable, even though they might simply be brainwashed idiots that think that the gay bar is making an end to "discrimination" of those poor, poor LGBT misfits.
If stupidity is a "crime" we are all guilty.

You come with a situation of the possibility of sex with a minor. I don't see how parents taking their children to a transgender show, makes them responsible for the chance of their kids being sodomised (I mean they are there with their children!).
The same situation can arise when parents send their children to become a choir boy, or to the Boy Scouts, or even for example a non-profit NGO that supposedly helps children (The Second Mile of Jerry Sandusky comes up).

I can imagine that there are better than average parents even though they promote the LGBT agenda.

I guess that when another politican argues that children should be taken from their parents, when they watch "extreme right" speeches by somebody like Rand Paul, you will suddenly cry foul.
But the "liberty" you promote is all too similar, with double standards.

So who do you think should "judge" whether children should be taken (stolen) from their parents and placed into government "care"?

 

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You can call me paranoid but I don't trust corrupt courts to decide that children should be taken away from their parents as easily as you do.
Especially as in the overwhelming majority of cases, even when the parents are really "bad", the foster "care" is much worse.

This isn't a case of "easily." That said, you keep asking me questions and you haven't answered mine. Or at least I didn't see an answer. And it's not just a "transgender show." This isn't "drag queen story hour. It's a sex worker show. It's no different then a parent taking his child to a stripper show. And I also mentioned the parent letting her son be the sex show. You're okay with a parent literally letting her child do sex work? And if you are, then why stop with just twerking for tips? As the sign said "It's not going to lick itself."

I guess that when another politican argues that children should be taken from their parents, when they watch "extreme right" speeches by somebody like Rand Paul, you will suddenly cry foul.

Political speeches, right wing or left wing, are protected by the first amendment. Sex work is not. You can't seriously consider those two things equivalent.

 

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Political speeches, right wing or left wing, are protected by the first amendment. Sex work is not. You can't seriously consider those two things equivalent.

You are the one that started making inappropriate comparisons. I was saying that when you first have one politician stealing children from their parents for taking their children to a LGBT show, the next time another politician will argue to take children away from their parents for taking them to a political rally?
Of course you understood, but for some reason you're twisting what I wrote. Will you next insinuate that I argue that children should be stealing from their parents for taking them to a speech by some political whore?!?

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It's a sex worker show. It's no different then a parent taking his child to a stripper show. And I also mentioned the parent letting her son be the sex show. You're okay with a parent literally letting her child do sex work? And if you are, then why stop with just twerking for tips? As the sign said "It's not going to lick itself."

To call a boy on stage doing "sex work" seems a bit exaggerated.
I'm not OK with parents taking their children to a child go see let alone do a sex show (whether LGBT or straight). I was saying that this shouldn't be reason to steal children from their parents.

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That said, you keep asking me questions and you haven't answered mine. Or at least I didn't see an answer.

I haven't evaded any questions...

You keep insinuating things about me that are simply not true, like a lying lawyer does. Still no answer...

So you're saying that in the liberty you promote it is up to the government (and crooked attorneys and judges) to decide who is entitled to raise children?

So who do you think should "judge" whether children should be taken (stolen) from their parents and placed into government "care"?

 

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You are the one that started making inappropriate comparisons. I was saying that when you first have one politician stealing children from their parents for taking their children to a LGBT show, the next time another politician will argue to take children away from their parents for taking them to a political rally?
Of course you understood, but for some reason you're twisting what I wrote. Will you next insinuate that I argue that children should be stealing from their parents for taking them to a speech by some political whore?!?

It's not an "LGBT show." Ellen Degeneris is an "LGBT show." This was a sex show. When you have someone dancing for tips, that's a sex show.

Really. Until you can acknowledge that simple fact that this was a SEX show at a gay BAR there is no reason to even talk to you about anything else. This is how child trafficking starts. Kids are exposed to the idea that selling your body for money is okay. Then they are encouraged to sell their body themselves. Again, the same twisted logic you are using was used by the New York CPS to justify doing NOTHING about a parent letting her 11 year old son dance for tips at a gay bar.

To call a boy on stage doing "sex work" seems a bit exaggerated.

A child, boy or girl, on stage, at a bar DANCING FOR TIPS is doing sex work. You want to say I'm doing "dishonest lawyering" but that would be YOU! Most of the time when someone is performing on stage they don't have dollars thrown at them. I've been to many a concert, comedy show, magic show etc. The only time money is thrown on stage is when the performance is sexual.

This is NOT okay:

And just so you know that my objection has NOTHING to do with LGBTQ, let me point out that THIS sexual exploitation of a pre-pubescent cis-girl is not okay either.

It ain't gonna lick itself right?

 

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When a troll doesn't even hide derailing a thread, the only strategy I know of is to ignore.

Removed post to after another troll post...

 

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Obviously somebody doesn't want you to see the shocking video.
In case you missed it, here it is again.
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It's the same video....that's still up. So....who do you think doesn't want who to see it?

 

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Obviously somebody doesn't want you to see the shocking video.
In case you missed it, here it is again.
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According to attorney Octavia Brown child kidnapping by the state is systemic in Florida, “It’s happening all over Florida”.

Four families have started lawsuits against Florida's Department of Children and Families (DCF), for stealing their children without good reason, and also violating state and federal law by not placing them with family members, and instead putting them in the custody of "connected" foster parents.

 

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When a troll doesn't even hide derailing a thread, the only strategy I know of is to ignore.

Removed post to after another troll post...

You brought up Desantis, said he was wrong for threatening to take kids from parents who would take them to drag shows, I disagreed, and you think that makes me a troll when YOU derailed your own thread. I started to post something else here but instead I'll call you out in the appropriate thread. I doubt you will respond though.

 

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According to Healthimpactnews (of Brian who posted here as [MENTION=10167]Created4[/MENTION]), medical kidnapping of children by the in Florida State is arguably the worst in the whole US.

There is actually a recent documentary on one of those horrible cases of medical kidnapping in Florida that for some reason gets nowhere as much publicity as the glamorous propaganda of the “Sound of freedom”…
No “superman” in this horrible story, the kidnappers won’t be punished, nor a happy end! And atrocities like this aren’t restricted to the US.

Maya Kowalski was rushed to the ER at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg, Florida on 7 October 2016.
Less than a week later, Maya’s mom Beata, was accused of child abuse due to Munchausen syndrome by proxy, and Maya was essentially imprisoned in hospital away from her family. Maya never saw her mother, 43-year-old Beata Kowalski, again who died by suicide in 2017 (in the hope that this would bring her daughter home).

Here you can hear Maya Kowalski explain how her life was destroyed by getting medically kidnapped, and why she won’t go to doctors anymore.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qI3vsGlt20bw/

The parents advocate explains that the only way to get the medically kidnapped child back, is by cooperating. She is right you know (ever heard of Kafka?)!


That isn’t exactly “innocent until proven guilty” is it: https://healthimpactnews.com/2023/n...lm-ever-produced-exposing-medical-kidnapping/