US goes to war with Iran

[Anti Federalist]

This is what I was talking about.

You can clearly see the impact crater.

You can also clearly see a swath of debris running from the impact crater to the 11 o'clock position.

Now, if that bomb has just destroyed a facility supposedly packed with "almost" weapons grade nuclear material, you can not tell me that there would not be significant radioactivity levels in the debris field and further downrange as well.

 

[TheTexan]

Now, if that bomb has just destroyed a facility supposedly packed with "almost" weapons grade nuclear material, you can not tell me that there would not be significant radioactivity levels in the debris field and further downrange as well.

Probably. The IAEA continues to warn of these possibilities.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[jmdrake]

Iran wasn't fulfilling it's IAEA obligations and that is something that should be taken seriously.

What is "suspect" about that sales pitch?

In 2015 Iran agreed to the IAEA obligations as a part of the Obama / Iran nuclear deal. In 2018 Trump unilatterally pulled the U.S. out of that deal. According to the IAEA, Iran didn't quit cooperating until 2019 which is AFTER Trump pulled out of the deal. Qasam Soliemani was assassinated in 2020. So Iran hasn't had any real incitive to do anything BUT pursue it's own national security interests. We are where we are. And yeah, your sales pitch is suspect.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

This is what I was talking about.

You can clearly see the impact crater.

You can also clearly see a swath of debris running from the impact crater to the 11 o'clock position.

Now, if that bomb has just destroyed a facility supposedly packed with "almost" weapons grade nuclear material, you can not tell me that there would not be significant radioactivity levels in the debris field and further downrange as well.

But explosions would never send particulate matter into the air to be blown by the wind. That would never happen!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Emperor Trump, like Emperor Biden before him, clearly has Constitutional authority to take us to war. Why don't you people understand the Constitution?!

 

[nikcers]

In 2015 Iran agreed to the IAEA obligations as a part of the Obama / Iran nuclear deal. In 2018 Trump unilatterally pulled the U.S. out of that deal. According to the IAEA, Iran didn't quit cooperating until 2019 which is AFTER Trump pulled out of the deal. Qasam Soliemani was assassinated in 2020. So Iran hasn't had any real incitive to do anything BUT pursue it's own national security interests. We are where we are. And yeah, your sales pitch is suspect.

In 2015 the Senate sent Iran a letter saying they don't approve of the Obama nuclear agreement.

Rand Paul even signed that letter.

 

[jmdrake]

Catturd is getting RATIOED in the comments.

 

[nikcers]

Emperor Trump, like Emperor Biden before him, clearly has Constitutional authority to take us to war. Why don't you people understand the Constitution?!

Where in the Constitution does it say that the president CANT go to war?

I see in the Constitution where it says the president can't run for a third term.

So they are definitely not a king.

Kings don't have to transfer their power to a person who wins a democratic election that all 50 states vote on.

The president is the only office that represents all 50 states who else do you think should do foreign policy?

 

[jmdrake]

In 2015 the Senate sent Iran a letter saying they don't approve of the Obama nuclear agreement.

Rand Paul even signed that letter.

And that's the DUMBEST thing Rand Paul ever did!

Paul Skeptical of Senators' Motives in Iran Deal Demand

Ron Paul on Saturday cast skepticism on the motives of senators who want a congressional review of President Obama's emerging nuclear deal with Iran — a group that includes his son, presidential candidate Rand Paul.

www.texastribune.org

 

[acptulsa]

In 2015 the Senate sent Iran a letter saying they don't approve of the Obama nuclear agreement.

Rand Paul even signed that letter.

See, I told you you wouldn't adjust your programming to have the decency to cite things.

You'll insist on being prompted every single time, no matter how much better an example all the humans set for you. It's a feature of your programming which is, in reality, a bug.

 

[nikcers]

And that's the DUMBEST thing Rand Paul ever did!

Paul Skeptical of Senators' Motives in Iran Deal Demand

Ron Paul on Saturday cast skepticism on the motives of senators who want a congressional review of President Obama's emerging nuclear deal with Iran — a group that includes his son, presidential candidate Rand Paul.

www.texastribune.org

He defended it when he ran for president.

He said the agreement did nothing to curb Iran's missle program.

Now Iran has missles that can hit NATO and soon they could be nuclear.

 

[jmdrake]

 

[jmdrake]

He defended it when he ran for president.

He said the agreement did nothing to curb Iran's missle program.

Now Iran has missles that can hit NATO and soon they could be nuclear.

You're not even making any sense. Who defended what when who ran for president? Ron Paul defended Obama's nuclear deal when he ran for president? That didn't happen until 2015 and Ron didn't run in 2016. Rand Paul defended Obama's nuclear deal when he ran in 2016? Ummm....okay. Not sure what your point of that would be. Rand Paul defended attacking Obama's nuclear deal in 2016? That might be why he got less traction in 2016 than Ron Paul did in 2008 or 2012. The base saw him as weak as hell.

Iran has been motivated to spend money on missiles that could hit Israel (and by extension NATO) because of Israeli and U.S. aggression PERIOD. We could have had a deal in 2003. We had a deal in 2015. Trump claims to be the "king of the deal." He's really the king of fools hill.

 

[nikcers]

You're not even making any sense. Who defended what when who ran for president? Ron Paul defended Obama's nuclear deal when he ran for president? That didn't happen until 2015 and Ron didn't run in 2016. Rand Paul defended Obama's nuclear deal when he ran in 2016? Ummm....okay. Not sure what your point of that would be. Rand Paul defended attacking Obama's nuclear deal in 2016? That might be why he got less traction in 2016 than Ron Paul did in 2008 or 2012. The base saw him as weak as hell.

Iran has been motivated to spend money on missiles that could hit Israel (and by extension NATO) because of Israeli and U.S. aggression PERIOD. We could have had a deal in 2003. We had a deal in 2015. Trump claims to be the "king of the deal." He's really the king of fools hill.

Rand Paul when he ran for president defended signing the letter.

I thought it was obvious what I said.

He spent 100s of thousands dollars on ads promoting his run for president and one of those ads said why he signed the letter.

Rand Paul essentially said when I am president Iran won't have nuclear missles. By signing that letter and then running for president and what that letter said.

 

[TheTexan]

In 2015 Iran agreed to the IAEA obligations as a part of the Obama / Iran nuclear deal. In 2018 Trump unilatterally pulled the U.S. out of that deal. According to the IAEA, Iran didn't quit cooperating until 2019 which is AFTER Trump pulled out of the deal. Qasam Soliemani was assassinated in 2020. So Iran hasn't had any real incitive to do anything BUT pursue it's own national security interests. We are where we are. And yeah, your sales pitch is suspect.

Iran complied with IAEA between 2015 and 2018 and outside of that very short time period they have consistently been breaking IAEA rules since they first signed the NPT in 1974.

They have been fucking around for a long time. Trump was right to want better oversight than the JCPOA provided.

 

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[jmdrake]

Iran complied with IAEA between 2015 and 2018 and outside of that very short time period they have consistently been breaking IAEA rules since they first signed the NPT in 1974.

They have been fucking around for a long time. Trump was right to want better oversight than the JCPOA provided.

The Shah, which the U.S. put into power through a military coup that overturned a democratically elected government, signed the NPT in 1974. All of our problems with Iran are because of our stupid leaders and that includes Trump.

 

[TheTexan]

The Shah, which the U.S. put into power through a military coup that overturned a democratically elected government, signed the NPT in 1974. All of our problems with Iran are because of our stupid leaders and that includes Trump.

Yea.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't want them to have a nuclear weapon.

I don't want anyone to have nuclear weapons.

 

[nikcers]

The Shah, which the U.S. put into power through a military coup that overturned a democratically elected government, signed the NPT in 1974. All of our problems with Iran are because of our stupid leaders and that includes Trump.

The allies put the Shah into power in 1941 when they toppled the axis regime