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Well as of yesterday, there's one less country with the capability to build nuclear weapons
US goes to war with Iran
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Well as of yesterday, there's one less country with the capability to build nuclear weapons
Fucking Israel causing trouble over and over.
Iran is probably being truthful about getting the uranium out ahead of time. But they probably are not being truthful about Fordow being destroyed. 12 MOPs is going to make a rather large hole, they were probably staged one after the other, so they go deeper and deeper.
In the end who cares if Iran gets a nuke? Their leadership obviously wants to live, so it would be nothing more than a deterrent. North Korea has one, Pakistan has one. They are never going to be used for the same reason, it's a deterrent, not an offensive weapon.
Israel is a rouge state and an exporter of terrorism and genocide with undeclared nukes and not a member of the NPT. Nobody seems to care about this?
Iran is probably being truthful about getting the uranium out ahead of time. But they probably are not being truthful about Fordow being destroyed. 12 MOPs is going to make a rather large hole, they were probably staged one after the other, so they go deeper and deeper.
In the end who cares if Iran gets a nuke? Their leadership obviously wants to live, so it would be nothing more than a deterrent. North Korea has one, Pakistan has one. They are never going to be used for the same reason, it's a deterrent, not an offensive weapon.
Israel is a rouge state and an exporter of terrorism and genocide with undeclared nukes and not a member of the NPT. Nobody seems to care about this?
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Lets just let everyone have nukes
That's not at all obvious considering the games they've played with the IAEA
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How partisan politics enabled WWIII
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Do you feel stupid now? You should.
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Guys this is what was on my mind last night. The differences between the three speeches and the unconstitutional abuse of power by President Trump. I do believe Trump should be impeached and I do support the effort to remove him from office.
Netanyahu's message to the world, Americans, the one which is being exclusively reported:
"President Trump and I often say: ‘Peace through strength.' First comes strength, then comes peace. And tonight, Donald Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength," Mr Netanyahu said in a video address after the US planes struck Iran's three main nuclear sites: Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.
"Congratulations, President Trump. Your bold decision to target Iran's nuclear facilities with the awesome and righteous might of the United States will change history," the Israeli PM said.
"In Operation Rising Line, Israel has done truly amazing things, but in tonight's action against Iran's nuclear facilities, America has been unsurpassed - it has done what no other country on Earth could do. History will record that President Trump acted to deny the world's most dangerous regime - the world's most dangerous weapons," he added.
Mr Netanyahu said that Mr Trump's leadership has created a "pivot of history that can help lead the Middle East and beyond to a future of prosperity and peace".
"God bless America. God bless Israel. May God bless our unshakeable alliance, our unbreakable faith," he said.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/fir...hu-on-us-bombing-iran-nuclear-sites-8728816it
that above link at least mentions the second address, altough it does not reveal its full contents: "In a separate video address, he told Israeli citizens..."
COMPARE against his full address to Israelis which was only broadcast on Israeli TV in Hebrew:
Dear citizens of Israel, my brothers and sisters. In Operation ‘Am Kalavi’, we achieved unprecedented achievements together in Israeli history.
“You remember that from the beginning of the operation, I promised you that Iran’s nuclear facilities would be destroyed, one way or another. This promise was fulfilled.
“A short time ago, in full coordination between me and President Trump, and in full operational coordination between the IDF and the United States military, the United States attacked Iran’s three nuclear facilities: Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan.
“In doing so, the United States continued, with greater intensity and with great force, the attacks of the IDF and the Mossad on Iran’s nuclear program. This program threatened our very existence and also endangered the peace of the entire world.
“Immediately after the operation was completed, President Trump called me. It was a very warm, very moving conversation. He blessed me, he blessed our army and he blessed our people. And I congratulated him, the United States pilots, and the American people.
“President Trump is a strong leader of the free world. He is a great friend of Israel, a friend like no other. In my name and on behalf of all the citizens of Israel, on behalf of the entire Jewish people, I thank him from the bottom of my heart.
“And I know, citizens of Israel, that I speak from the bottom of each and every one of your hearts. We stand together, We fight together, And with God’s help – we win together. As the verse says, “We will ascend, for we can overcome them,” Netanyahu wrote.
[Netanyahu concluded his remarks with the message "We stand together, we fight together, and with God's help – we win together," and quoted from the weekly Torah portion – "Let us go up at once and possess it, for we are well able to overcome it" (Numbers 13:30). In a separate video message in English...]
www.israelhayom.com
NOTE: There is a difference in this sentence between the translation I saw live which is posted above and the one at Israel Hayom. This is the line, either:
"He blessed me, he blessed our army and he blessed our people. And I congratulated him, the United States pilots, and the American people."
OR: "He blessed me, he blessed our military and he blessed our people. And I blessed him, the United States pilots and the American people,"
Finding out which is accurate would require hearing if he used the same exact word to describe Trump "blessing" and himself either "congratulating" or blessing.
In the beginning of Netanyahu's English X video, he does actually congratulate Trump for the bombing.
thenewsguru.com
I saw the translation live last night on AgendaFreeTV. Here is a video with translation (congratulate not bless is in the feed)
underneath his addresss on Israeli television, spoken in Hebrew:
Obviously, the two messages are different in their suggestions and assumptions. Netanyhu's address to the Israelis speaks of the war continuing until a total victory is complete with regime change and Israel's ascension in the Middle East, to create the new Middle East. (AND BEYOND in his X post)
We fight together, And with God’s help – we win together. As the verse says, “We will ascend, for we can overcome them,” Netanyahu wrote.
-----------------
There is no existing congressional authorization for the use of force against Iran. While some in the Trump administration, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have made arguments attempting to link Iran and al-Qaeda — in what may be an effort to lay the groundwork for invoking the 2001 AUMF, which was passed in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, as authorization to use force against Iran — that argument is thoroughly unconvincing.
The 2001 AUMF authorizes the president to use:
“necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”
This has long been understood to refer to al-Qaeda and the Taliban, who harbored al-Qaeda in Afghanistan at the time of the 9/11 attacks, and also has been interpreted by all three branches of government to apply to “associated forces” of those two armed groups based on the principle of co-belligerency in armed conflict.
As we have previously written: “The 2001 AUMF does not authorize the use of force against Iran. Iran was not implicated in the 9/11 attacks, Iranian forces are not al Qaeda or the Taliban, or their associated forces, nor are they a ‘successor’ to any of those forces.”
www.justsecurity.org
Transcript of Trump’s speech on US strikes on Iran
lines why which Trump will argue his attacks were legally defensible under the 2001 AUMF:
"the nuclear threat posed by the world’s number one state sponsor of terror.", and: "They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs, with roadside bombs. That was their specialty. We lost over 1,000 people and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East, and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate in particular."
The claims above have been said by others, but they are not actually verifiable, and contradict reported events and casualties. Iran did not attack American troops in Syria or Iraq, except for the one time it sent a missile to an empty base in response to Solemani's slaying by Trump and Israel. It is an indisputable fact reported by all agencies around the world the the Iranian Quds Force was fighting ISIS and Al-Queda, at the request of Syria and Iraq, not Americans. American adminstrations were using these proxies to fight Iran and topple Assad, and to steal resources, and also to fight the supply of Iranian aid to Hezbollah and Assad.
These actions cannot be classified as terrorism, and they do not have any association in concert with the alleged terrorist groups responsible for September 11th.
As a matter of bare fact, Iran was always fighting against Al-Queda, and ISIS.
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
“The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment,” the US Congresswoman wrote on X.
Netanyahu's message to the world, Americans, the one which is being exclusively reported:
"President Trump and I often say: ‘Peace through strength.' First comes strength, then comes peace. And tonight, Donald Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength," Mr Netanyahu said in a video address after the US planes struck Iran's three main nuclear sites: Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.
"Congratulations, President Trump. Your bold decision to target Iran's nuclear facilities with the awesome and righteous might of the United States will change history," the Israeli PM said.
"In Operation Rising Line, Israel has done truly amazing things, but in tonight's action against Iran's nuclear facilities, America has been unsurpassed - it has done what no other country on Earth could do. History will record that President Trump acted to deny the world's most dangerous regime - the world's most dangerous weapons," he added.
Mr Netanyahu said that Mr Trump's leadership has created a "pivot of history that can help lead the Middle East and beyond to a future of prosperity and peace".
"God bless America. God bless Israel. May God bless our unshakeable alliance, our unbreakable faith," he said.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/fir...hu-on-us-bombing-iran-nuclear-sites-8728816it
that above link at least mentions the second address, altough it does not reveal its full contents: "In a separate video address, he told Israeli citizens..."
COMPARE against his full address to Israelis which was only broadcast on Israeli TV in Hebrew:
Dear citizens of Israel, my brothers and sisters. In Operation ‘Am Kalavi’, we achieved unprecedented achievements together in Israeli history.
“You remember that from the beginning of the operation, I promised you that Iran’s nuclear facilities would be destroyed, one way or another. This promise was fulfilled.
“A short time ago, in full coordination between me and President Trump, and in full operational coordination between the IDF and the United States military, the United States attacked Iran’s three nuclear facilities: Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan.
“In doing so, the United States continued, with greater intensity and with great force, the attacks of the IDF and the Mossad on Iran’s nuclear program. This program threatened our very existence and also endangered the peace of the entire world.
“Immediately after the operation was completed, President Trump called me. It was a very warm, very moving conversation. He blessed me, he blessed our army and he blessed our people. And I congratulated him, the United States pilots, and the American people.
“President Trump is a strong leader of the free world. He is a great friend of Israel, a friend like no other. In my name and on behalf of all the citizens of Israel, on behalf of the entire Jewish people, I thank him from the bottom of my heart.
“And I know, citizens of Israel, that I speak from the bottom of each and every one of your hearts. We stand together, We fight together, And with God’s help – we win together. As the verse says, “We will ascend, for we can overcome them,” Netanyahu wrote.
[Netanyahu concluded his remarks with the message "We stand together, we fight together, and with God's help – we win together," and quoted from the weekly Torah portion – "Let us go up at once and possess it, for we are well able to overcome it" (Numbers 13:30). In a separate video message in English...]
Netanyahu praises 'awesome and righteous might of the US'
"First comes strength, then comes peace," he said, before adding, "And tonight, President Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength."
www.israelhayom.com
NOTE: There is a difference in this sentence between the translation I saw live which is posted above and the one at Israel Hayom. This is the line, either:
"He blessed me, he blessed our army and he blessed our people. And I congratulated him, the United States pilots, and the American people."
OR: "He blessed me, he blessed our military and he blessed our people. And I blessed him, the United States pilots and the American people,"
Finding out which is accurate would require hearing if he used the same exact word to describe Trump "blessing" and himself either "congratulating" or blessing.
In the beginning of Netanyahu's English X video, he does actually congratulate Trump for the bombing.
Iran’s nuclear sites attack: Israel happy but U.S. lawmaker calls for Trump’s impeachment | TheNewsGuru
US Congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said President Donald Trump committed an impeachable offence by his "disastrous decision" to bomb Iran's nuclear sites.
thenewsguru.com
underneath his addresss on Israeli television, spoken in Hebrew:
Obviously, the two messages are different in their suggestions and assumptions. Netanyhu's address to the Israelis speaks of the war continuing until a total victory is complete with regime change and Israel's ascension in the Middle East, to create the new Middle East. (AND BEYOND in his X post)
We fight together, And with God’s help – we win together. As the verse says, “We will ascend, for we can overcome them,” Netanyahu wrote.
-----------------
There is no existing congressional authorization for the use of force against Iran. While some in the Trump administration, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have made arguments attempting to link Iran and al-Qaeda — in what may be an effort to lay the groundwork for invoking the 2001 AUMF, which was passed in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, as authorization to use force against Iran — that argument is thoroughly unconvincing.
The 2001 AUMF authorizes the president to use:
“necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”
This has long been understood to refer to al-Qaeda and the Taliban, who harbored al-Qaeda in Afghanistan at the time of the 9/11 attacks, and also has been interpreted by all three branches of government to apply to “associated forces” of those two armed groups based on the principle of co-belligerency in armed conflict.
As we have previously written: “The 2001 AUMF does not authorize the use of force against Iran. Iran was not implicated in the 9/11 attacks, Iranian forces are not al Qaeda or the Taliban, or their associated forces, nor are they a ‘successor’ to any of those forces.”
Top Experts' Backgrounder: Military Action Against Iran and US Domestic Law
Experts who advised a president answer basic questions on when action against Iran would be lawful, and what options Congress has to oppose it.
www.justsecurity.org
Transcript of Trump’s speech on US strikes on Iran
lines why which Trump will argue his attacks were legally defensible under the 2001 AUMF:
"the nuclear threat posed by the world’s number one state sponsor of terror.", and: "They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs, with roadside bombs. That was their specialty. We lost over 1,000 people and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East, and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate in particular."
The claims above have been said by others, but they are not actually verifiable, and contradict reported events and casualties. Iran did not attack American troops in Syria or Iraq, except for the one time it sent a missile to an empty base in response to Solemani's slaying by Trump and Israel. It is an indisputable fact reported by all agencies around the world the the Iranian Quds Force was fighting ISIS and Al-Queda, at the request of Syria and Iraq, not Americans. American adminstrations were using these proxies to fight Iran and topple Assad, and to steal resources, and also to fight the supply of Iranian aid to Hezbollah and Assad.
These actions cannot be classified as terrorism, and they do not have any association in concert with the alleged terrorist groups responsible for September 11th.
As a matter of bare fact, Iran was always fighting against Al-Queda, and ISIS.
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
“The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment,” the US Congresswoman wrote on X.
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Nukes don't kill people. People kill people. So far the United States is the only country in the world to every use a nuclear weapon in an attack. If guns should only be kept out of the hands of people who misuse them than maybe the U.S. is the only country who should not be allowed to have nukes.Lets just let everyone have nukes
That's not at all obvious considering the games they've played with the IAEA
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It's just the playbook.
Israel commits to war, gets pummeled.
America pretends to be "reluctant warrior", only cares about "nuclear threat" demands peace.
America makes a token gesture against "nuclear program" that does no real damage but commits U.S. to war.
Israel keeps bombing.
Iran keeps bombing.
Iran closes strait of Hormuz or some other "asset or interest" of the U.S. is jeopardized.
America goes all in.
The mountain attack was certainly P.R. to give credibility to this being something other than what it actually is, U.S./Israel plan to turn Iran into a non-functioning Takfiri terrorist state under control of same 'ole gang.
Syria's Jolani has already telegraphed the ground operation-that his men would participate in-in interviews prior to all this.
I don't buy for a second that this was organic, or that somehow our administration has any real operational control. U.S./Israel have been planning this for years. I do not believe this will de-escalate until Iran gets the Libya treatment.
I don't think we'll see ground troops in Iran, per se, but if the war stars drawing attacks on other U.S. assets and interests, I imagine there will be Middle East deployments.
So, I think this is just early stages. No "false flag" needed. Just the incessant whining of our greates "asset and interest" getting it's ass kicked on T.V. so that American's eventually get bored of not being totally involved and the administration can get on with full-on destruction of Iranian infrastructure so the mercs can move in and start terrorizing the populations who weren't rich enough to flee the country.
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Guys this is what was on my mind last night. The differences between the three speeches and the unconstitutional abuse of power by President Trump. I do believe Trump should be impeached and I do support the effort to remove him from office.
Netanyahu's message to the world, Americans, the one which is being exclusively reported:
"President Trump and I often say: ‘Peace through strength.' First comes strength, then comes peace. And tonight, Donald Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength," Mr Netanyahu said in a video address after the US planes struck Iran's three main nuclear sites: Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.
"Congratulations, President Trump. Your bold decision to target Iran's nuclear facilities with the awesome and righteous might of the United States will change history," the Israeli PM said.
"In Operation Rising Line, Israel has done truly amazing things, but in tonight's action against Iran's nuclear facilities, America has been unsurpassed - it has done what no other country on Earth could do. History will record that President Trump acted to deny the world's most dangerous regime - the world's most dangerous weapons," he added.
Mr Netanyahu said that Mr Trump's leadership has created a "pivot of history that can help lead the Middle East and beyond to a future of prosperity and peace".
"God bless America. God bless Israel. May God bless our unshakeable alliance, our unbreakable faith," he said.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/fir...hu-on-us-bombing-iran-nuclear-sites-8728816it
that above link at least mentions the second address, altough it does not reveal its full contents: "In a separate video address, he told Israeli citizens..."
COMPARE against his full address to Israelis which was only broadcast on Israeli TV in Hebrew:
Dear citizens of Israel, my brothers and sisters. In Operation ‘Am Kalavi’, we achieved unprecedented achievements together in Israeli history.
“You remember that from the beginning of the operation, I promised you that Iran’s nuclear facilities would be destroyed, one way or another. This promise was fulfilled.
“A short time ago, in full coordination between me and President Trump, and in full operational coordination between the IDF and the United States military, the United States attacked Iran’s three nuclear facilities: Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan.
“In doing so, the United States continued, with greater intensity and with great force, the attacks of the IDF and the Mossad on Iran’s nuclear program. This program threatened our very existence and also endangered the peace of the entire world.
“Immediately after the operation was completed, President Trump called me. It was a very warm, very moving conversation. He blessed me, he blessed our army and he blessed our people. And I congratulated him, the United States pilots, and the American people.
“President Trump is a strong leader of the free world. He is a great friend of Israel, a friend like no other. In my name and on behalf of all the citizens of Israel, on behalf of the entire Jewish people, I thank him from the bottom of my heart.
“And I know, citizens of Israel, that I speak from the bottom of each and every one of your hearts. We stand together, We fight together, And with God’s help – we win together. As the verse says, “We will ascend, for we can overcome them,” Netanyahu wrote.
[Netanyahu concluded his remarks with the message "We stand together, we fight together, and with God's help – we win together," and quoted from the weekly Torah portion – "Let us go up at once and possess it, for we are well able to overcome it" (Numbers 13:30). In a separate video message in English...]
Netanyahu praises 'awesome and righteous might of the US'
"First comes strength, then comes peace," he said, before adding, "And tonight, President Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength."
NOTE: There is a difference in this sentence between the translation I saw live which is posted above and the one at Israel Hayom. This is the line, either:
"He blessed me, he blessed our army and he blessed our people. And I congratulated him, the United States pilots, and the American people."
OR: "He blessed me, he blessed our military and he blessed our people. And I blessed him, the United States pilots and the American people,"
Finding out which is accurate would require hearing if he used the same exact word to describe Trump "blessing" and himself either "congratulating" or blessing.
In the beginning of Netanyahu's English X video, he does actually congratulate Trump for the bombing.
I saw the translation live last night on AgendaFreeTV. Here is a video with translation (congratulate not bless is in the feed)Iran’s nuclear sites attack: Israel happy but U.S. lawmaker calls for Trump’s impeachment | TheNewsGuru
US Congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said President Donald Trump committed an impeachable offence by his "disastrous decision" to bomb Iran's nuclear sites.
underneath his addresss on Israeli television, spoken in Hebrew:
Obviously, the two messages are different in their suggestions and assumptions. Netanyhu's address to the Israelis speaks of the war continuing until a total victory is complete with regime change and Israel's ascension in the Middle East, to create the new Middle East. (AND BEYOND in his X post)
We fight together, And with God’s help – we win together. As the verse says, “We will ascend, for we can overcome them,” Netanyahu wrote.
-----------------
There is no existing congressional authorization for the use of force against Iran. While some in the Trump administration, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have made arguments attempting to link Iran and al-Qaeda — in what may be an effort to lay the groundwork for invoking the 2001 AUMF, which was passed in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, as authorization to use force against Iran — that argument is thoroughly unconvincing.
The 2001 AUMF authorizes the president to use:
“necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”
This has long been understood to refer to al-Qaeda and the Taliban, who harbored al-Qaeda in Afghanistan at the time of the 9/11 attacks, and also has been interpreted by all three branches of government to apply to “associated forces” of those two armed groups based on the principle of co-belligerency in armed conflict.
As we have previously written: “The 2001 AUMF does not authorize the use of force against Iran. Iran was not implicated in the 9/11 attacks, Iranian forces are not al Qaeda or the Taliban, or their associated forces, nor are they a ‘successor’ to any of those forces.”
Top Experts' Backgrounder: Military Action Against Iran and US Domestic Law
Experts who advised a president answer basic questions on when action against Iran would be lawful, and what options Congress has to oppose it.
Transcript of Trump’s speech on US strikes on Iran
lines why which Trump will argue his attacks were legally defensible under the 2001 AUMF:
"the nuclear threat posed by the world’s number one state sponsor of terror.", and: "They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs, with roadside bombs. That was their specialty. We lost over 1,000 people and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East, and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate in particular."
The claims above have been said by others, but they are not actually verifiable, and contradict reported events and casualties. Iran did not attack American troops in Syria or Iraq, except for the one time it sent a missile to an empty base in response to Solemani's slaying by Trump and Israel. It is an indisputable fact reported by all agencies around the world the the Iranian Quds Force was fighting ISIS and Al-Queda, at the request of Syria and Iraq, not Americans. American adminstrations were using these proxies to fight Iran and topple Assad, and to steal resources, and also to fight the supply of Iranian aid to Hezbollah and Assad.
These actions cannot be classified as terrorism, and they do not have any association in concert with the alleged terrorist groups responsible for September 11th.
As a matter of bare fact, Iran was always fighting against Al-Queda, and ISIS.
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
“The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment,” the US Congresswoman wrote on X.
Trump should have been impeached as soon as he showed a wilingness to defy SCOTUS 9-0 ruling against him regarding due process before deporting somoene to a freaking foreign prison. Good luck getting him impeached for doing AIPAC's bidding when the majority of the House and Senate OF BOTH PARTIES are controlled by AIPAC. They might have impeached him for NOT bombing Iran on behalf of Israel.
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I, for one, am ready for a conversation about whether there's anything moral at all in granting free speech to AI.
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Meanwhile is the Land Of The Greed and the Home Of The Slaves:
What Trump's strikes on Iran mean for gas prices as oil costs surge
Amid the ongoing conflict, gas prices have already been increasing, with analysts warning of further hikes in the coming months.
www.newsweek.com
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Medvedev:
What have the Americans accomplished with their nighttime strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran? 1. Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage. 2. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue. 3. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads. 4. Israel is under attack, explosions are rocking the country, and people are panicking. 5. The US is now entangled in a new conflict, with prospects of a ground operation looming on the horizon. 6. Iran’s political regime has survived — and in all likelihood, has come out even stronger. 7. The people are rallying around the country’s spiritual leadership, including those who were previously indifferent or opposed to it. 8. Donald Trump, once hailed as ‘president of peace,’ has now pushed the US into another war. 9. The vast majority of countries around the world oppose the actions of Israel and the United States. 10. At this rate, Trump can forget about the Nobel Peace Prize — not even with how rigged it has become. What a way to kick things off, Mr. President. Congratulations!
- via #planettoday: https://www.planet-today.com/2025/06/russias-medvedev-blasts-trump-after.html
What have the Americans accomplished with their nighttime strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran? 1. Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage. 2. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue. 3. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads. 4. Israel is under attack, explosions are rocking the country, and people are panicking. 5. The US is now entangled in a new conflict, with prospects of a ground operation looming on the horizon. 6. Iran’s political regime has survived — and in all likelihood, has come out even stronger. 7. The people are rallying around the country’s spiritual leadership, including those who were previously indifferent or opposed to it. 8. Donald Trump, once hailed as ‘president of peace,’ has now pushed the US into another war. 9. The vast majority of countries around the world oppose the actions of Israel and the United States. 10. At this rate, Trump can forget about the Nobel Peace Prize — not even with how rigged it has become. What a way to kick things off, Mr. President. Congratulations!
- via #planettoday: https://www.planet-today.com/2025/06/russias-medvedev-blasts-trump-after.html
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Satellite images show damage from US strikes on Iran’s Fordow nuclear site
The US struck Iran’s Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan nuclear sites, escalating tensions with Iran.
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11) A clear line in the sand now exists between the Ron Paul supporters who support Trump and those who oppose him. Take no prisoners!
Edit: Hold up. I just noticed what you put in bold. and Medvedev is the former president of Russia. Is Russia considering giving Iran nukes?
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Hey, “we” have to dictate to others what they may or may not have, and what they may or may not do because “we” believe in “liberty” and self-determination (that last is a necessary part of the principle of secession).
Plus, “we’re” just unbelievably arrogant.
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