US bombs "narco-terrorist" boats in Caribbean, Pacific

[Invisible Man]

Thats as many Americans that died from the Korean war per year.

And it's less than the number that die from alcohol and cigarettes. People make choices that result in their death. It's a sad truth, and perhaps some of us ought to do more than we have done to help these people. But not through violent intervention, and not using money that we collected by theft. These people are not victims of terrorism or any other crime. Vices are not crimes.

 

[nikcers]

And it's less than the number that die from alcohol and cigarettes. People make choices that result in their death. It's a sad truth, and perhaps some of us ought to do more than we have done to help these people. But not through violent intervention, and not using money that we collected by theft. These people are not victims of terrorism or any other crime. Vices are not crimes.

Alcohol isn't as deadly as fentanyl.

A lot of people buy their son their first beer when they turn 21, would you buy your son their first fentanyl?

Billions of people drink alcohol throughout their lifetimes.

Billions of people arent doing fentnyl.

The people dying from fentanyl a lot of times don't even know they are taking it.

They are buying things like Xanax pills or Adderall from someone and overdosing and dying from fentanyl.

This has been China selling these fentanyl percursors to drug cartels to manufacture fentanyl that kills us.

It was mostly China killing us in the Korean war too.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[nikcers]

GG has America derrangement syndrome.

The USA liberated plenty of people in the world from repressive regimes and continues to do so by keeping totalitarian regimes from expanding.

 

[acptulsa]

derrangement syndrome

 

[Invisible Man]

Alcohol isn't as deadly as fentanyl.

A lot of people buy their son their first beer when they turn 21, would you buy your son their first fentanyl?

Billions of people drink alcohol throughout their lifetimes.

Billions of people arent doing fentnyl.

The people dying from fentanyl a lot of times don't even know they are taking it.

They are buying things like Xanax pills or Adderall from someone and overdosing and dying from fentanyl.

This has been China selling these fentanyl percursors to drug cartels to manufacture fentanyl that kills us.

It was mostly China killing us in the Korean war too.

Far more people die each year from alcohol than fentanyl. No, I would not buy fentanyl for my son, myself, or anyone else. But that doesn't change the fact that vices are not crimes.

I don't deny your claim that a lot of people who take fentanyl don't even know it. But why is this? It is a predictable result of the war on drugs. And the actions the Trump administration has been taking will make this problem worse, not better. People are going to choose to ingest cocaine, heroin, and other drugs, and generally these people would rather not have these drugs be adulterated with fentanyl. So why would anyone want to sell them drugs that are adulterated with fentanyl? Because the federal government has made it difficult to possess and transport unadulterated cocaine, heroin, and other such drugs. So dealers use a substitute that packs far more potency into far smaller amounts in order to stretch their supply farther. If the government didn't want that to happen, then simply getting out of the way and letting people possess, sell, buy, and use, cocaine, heroin, etc., openly, would solve that problem. Not only would these drug users be far less likely to take fentanyl, but the ones who want help with their addictions would be free to seek it out without being punished as criminals for their victimless crimes.

What specifically was in these boats that Trump blew up? Fentanyl? Or bulkier drugs that didn't contain fentanyl?

 

[nikcers]

Far more people die each year from alcohol than fentanyl. No, I would not buy fentanyl for my son, myself, or anyone else. But that doesn't change the fact that vices are not crimes.

I don't deny your claim that a lot of people who take fentanyl don't even know it. But why is this? It is a predictable result of the war on drugs. And the actions the Trump administration has been taking will make this problem worse, not better. People are going to choose to ingest cocaine, heroin, and other drugs, and generally these people would rather not have these drugs be adulterated with fentanyl. So why would anyone want to sell them drugs that are adulterated with fentanyl? Because the federal government has made it difficult to possess and transport unadulterated cocaine, heroin, and other such drugs. So dealers use a substitute that packs far more potency into far smaller amounts in order to stretch their supply farther. If the government didn't want that to happen, then simply getting out of the way and letting people possess, sell, buy, and use, cocaine, heroin, etc., openly, would solve that problem. Not only would these drug users be far less likely to take fentanyl, but the ones who want help with their addictions would be free to seek it out without being punished as criminals for their victimless crimes.

What specifically was in these boats that Trump blew up? Fentanyl? Or bulkier drugs that didn't contain fentanyl?

They aren't at war with the fentanyl we are at war with the narco terrorists.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

The narco terrorists themselves were the targets and the drugs they traffic are high value targets.

 

[acptulsa]

They aren't at war with the fentanyl we are at war with the narco terrorists.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

The narco terrorists themselves were the targets and the drugs they traffic are high value targets.

But then, the bot isn't programmed to see through any bull that leads to bloodshed. The world Asimov envisioned in I Robot apparently ain't gonna happen.

 

[nikcers]

But then, the bot isn't programmed to see through any bull that leads to bloodshed. The world Asimov envisioned in I Robot apparently ain't gonna happen.

I didn't like the wars in the middle east because I wanted them to instead go to war against the narco terrorists that control Latin America.

I wasn't getting invaded by the middle east by the millions like I was getting invaded by Latin America because of the narco terrorists.

My country was becoming a non English speaking country but not because of people from the middle east.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[jmdrake]

 

[acptulsa]

I didn't like the wars in the middle east because I wanted them to instead go to war against the narco terrorists that control Latin America.

Oh, gee, so many wars to choose from...

 

[Invisible Man]

They aren't at war with the fentanyl we are at war with the narco terrorists.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

The narco terrorists themselves were the targets and the drugs they traffic are high value targets.

But we aren't really at war with narco terrorists. We actively creating the conditions that compel this so-called narco-terrorism to happen. If we really don't want it to happen, we won't stop it by doing even more of what causes it, we will stop it by ceasing to create those conditions.

 

[nikcers]

But we aren't really at war with narco terrorists. We actively creating the conditions that compel this so-called narco-terrorism to happen. If we really don't want it to happen, we won't stop it by doing even more of what causes it, we will stop it by ceasing to create those conditions.

We create the conditions because powerful interest groups profit from it.

Prisons and drug companies profit from illegal drug sales.

The gangs in the United States profit from it.

I can't remove that profitability completely without destroying the supply.

If I destroy the supply then it won't matter how much of a demand there is.

The supply isn't coming from inside the house. We put a stop to the supply in our own country.

Sometimes the nuclear option is the best option.

 

[acptulsa]

Prisons and drug companies profit from illegal drug sales.

The bot is admitting that the government enslaves us so corporations can profit from cheap work release labor schemes.

 

[nikcers]

The bot is admitting that the government enslaves us so corporations can profit from cheap work release labor schemes.

We aren't slaves we just like making life tougher than it really is.

People like making things really hard because they are hard headed.

A country is only as good as its people.

 

[acptulsa]

We aren't slaves we just like making life tougher than it really is.

For the people we're bombing as well as on ourselves, borrowing for bombs and being eaten away by inflation.

 

[nikcers]

For the people we're bombing as well as on ourselves, borrowing for bombs and being eaten away by inflation.

We aren't being eaten away at. Our country's military manufacturing is a necessary cost of having a country.

If you can't defend your country then someone will come in and take it from you.

We are defending our country from people taking it using the military like we pay them for.

 

[Invisible Man]

We create the conditions because powerful interest groups profit from it.

Prisons and drug companies profit from illegal drug sales.

The gangs in the United States profit from it.

I can't remove that profitability completely without destroying the supply.

If I destroy the supply then it won't matter how much of a demand there is.

The supply isn't coming from inside the house. We put a stop to the supply in our own country.

Sometimes the nuclear option is the best option.

You can't destroy the supply. That's nonsense.

And however much you are able to diminish the supply of drugs entering from outside the country, that will only bring about more demand for substitutes in the form of things like meth and fentanyl. It will make the problem worse, not better.

And we have decades of proof of this.

 

[nikcers]

You can't destroy the supply. That's nonsense.

And however much you are able to diminish the supply of drugs entering from outside the country, that will only bring about more demand for substitutes in the form of things like meth and fentanyl. It will make the problem worse, not better.

And we have decades of proof of this.

We had 1000s of years of actual slavery and we were able to end it with prohibition.