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Causation explicitly applies to cases where action A causes outcome B.
Update me since 2016. Did they ever prove the Russians hacked the DNC?
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Causation explicitly applies to cases where action A causes outcome B.
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That's just as bad as saying the Russians got him elected. Its a cop out. Republicans voted for him and he won. Take the L.
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It is NOT. And I don't believe the Russians had anything to do with his election. I know & understand PR very well & it was pretty obvious that the press was actually supporting Trump- especially compared to Ron Paul who was HE-WHO-MUST-NOT-BE-NAMED.
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Ron Paul didn't run against Trump. Rand Paul got bad PR too but he didn't use it to his advantage like Trump did. Trump is a genius at PR.
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If the left used their media power to get Trump elected as a Trojan Horse, a democrat disguised as a republican, then why are they turning themselves inside out to get rid of him?
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The democrats are really for deregulation and conservative judges. They wanted Republicans to have more supreme court seats than democrats.
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Again- it's all theatre. During the stupid dog & pony impeachment charade, Trump has assassinated an Iranian general- breaking international law- passed the USMCA, bombed more places/people than Obama ever did, and has done a ton of things that are totally impeachable- but no one notices because of the theatrics.
It's all a game.
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You mean like Kavanaugh, who was instrumental in the passing of the Patriot Act? And more theatrics about sex abuse to cover his real crime?
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The democrats are really for secure borders and building a wall. The democrats are really for getting out of the paris climate agreement. The democrats are really for trading with China and not for TPP which was designed to stop trade with China. The democrats are really for Gorsuch in the supreme court. The democrats are really for denying Visas to pregnant women.
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Fair enough, but then, to what purpose?
We are assuming the "deep state" or "TPTB" or the "MIC", whatever you want to call it, they want these things to happen and that furthermore they control the election process.
So why promote such a divisive and difficult figurehead as Trump?
Why not install another telegenic, politically correct, pliable, puppet like Obama?
None of this makes any sense on the surface.
I'm willing to entertain the idea that the establishment freak out is real...
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He is stopping or reversing too many of their plans.
He may not be perfect for us but he is not working for them.
The Department of Justice has charged 7 russians with hacking various things pertaining to the election, including the DNC.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/04/justice-department-charges-fancy-bear-hacking/
Mueller report detailed more of this
https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/18/mueller-clinton-arizona-hack/
https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/04/justice-department-charges-fancy-bear-hacking/
Mueller report detailed more of this
https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/18/mueller-clinton-arizona-hack/
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All based on the unverified assertions of Crowdstrike and a load of hysteria.
Enough evidence for Trump's DoJ to issue 7 arrest warrants which shows there is enough for charges to be filed. The article references UK and Dutch accusing russia of hacking the investigation of poisoning of ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal, Canada for going after their anti-doping, and surprisingly the MH17 missing airplane investigation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45746837
The OP asked for proof, here are links and some of the actual indictments. Spin that any way you want
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