Update. I cannot vote for Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

Furthermore, he was "anti-war" during a "global lockdown" to allow for the largest transfer of wealth. He is a businessman, after all.

That's utter garbage, war would have facilitated even more, that's why his enemies wanted both.

 

[Swordsmyth]

His hotels and resorts made a lot of money in Muslim countries as well. He plays both sides well.

Oh dear! a man of peace and trade who doesn't favor one foreign side above another!
Whatever shall we do?

 

[jmdrake]

You sound like you’re arguing against US intervention in Iraq after 9/11… it’s not that simple. Unlike the US, Israel actually has missiles flying into their country on a semi-regular basis.

What is simple is asking ChatGPT why they did it and what they targeted.



Before you respond with "Ahh hah!! It says "PRE-EMPTIVE"!!"

Again, not that simple.. it's not like it's pre-emptive, like they've never shot missiles at them before. More like a guy punches you, and then you punch him as he is winding up for his second punch.

Ah. So because you can get ChatGPT to make up an answer for you that makes it justified? Ummm...okay. ChatGPT is biased as fvck when it comes to Israel. Here's proof.

Remember this thread? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...S-terrorists&p=6436153&viewfull=1#post6436153

It has an article about Israel giving medical treatment to Syrian rebels. As you should know even the "free Syrian Army" has at times directly worked with ISIS to overthrow Assad. Here's the actual paragraphs from the article.

Syrian in Israeli hospital: ‘Most fighters know they will get good care here’
IDF mum on how the steady flow of wounded from the Syria civil war enter Israel, looking for treatment.
By REUTERS
SEPTEMBER 15, 2013 02:43

Less than 160 km. from Damascus, a Syrian rebel lies in a hospital bed, an Israeli sentry at the door. Nearby a Syrian mother sits next to her daughter, shot in the back by a sniper.

What started this year as a trickle is now a steady flow of Syrians, scores of civilians and fighters wounded in the civil war and being discreetly brought across the Golan front line into Israel.

For all the advantages it brings of excellent medical care, it is a journey fraught with risk for those who fear the wrath of President Bashar Assad’s government.

“There was one man, where I am from, who was treated in Israel. The regime forces killed his three brothers,” the teenage girl’s mother said. “They will kill my sons and my husband if they ever find out we were here.”

For fear of retribution back home, Syrians in Israeli clinics who spoke to Reuters asked not to be named.

The woman’s 16-year-old daughter, whose wounds have left her paralyzed in both legs, lies stone-faced as an Israeli hospital clown juggles and dances, trying in vain to raise a smile.
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And here's how ChatGPT summarized it.

The article discusses the medical treatment provided by Israeli hospitals to wounded Syrians during the Syrian civil war. It highlights the experiences of Syrian patients, including a mother and her paralyzed daughter, who sought care in Israel due to the dangers posed by the Assad regime. Israeli medical personnel treat these individuals without discrimination, and many patients express gratitude for the care they receive. The article notes the risks associated with their journey and the complexity of the situation for those who cross into Israel seeking help.
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My respose:

That's a biased summary of the article. You mention the mother and daughter but you do not mention the Syrian rebel fighter who was being treated. That was mentioned in the title.
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ChatGPT's reply.

You're right, and I appreciate your feedback. The article discusses a Syrian rebel fighter being treated in an Israeli hospital, highlighting the care provided to him and other wounded individuals. It emphasizes that many fighters are aware they can receive quality medical assistance in Israel despite the ongoing conflict. The article captures the complexities of this humanitarian effort amidst the war.
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So ChatGPT has a pro-Israel bias. That said the "It's in our strategic best interest" logic is what is used to justify every war including Iraq. "Saddam is trying to get WMDs and he had links to Al Qaeda." That was the justification.

This is what Google's AI responded to the question "Did Israel buy oil from ISIS?"

Yes, Arab media accused Israel of buying oil from the Islamic State (ISIS). The media claimed that oil was smuggled from ISIS-controlled areas in Syria and Iraq, and then sold to Israeli and Turkish dealers in Zakhu. The oil was then sent to Silopi, Turkey, and transported to Turkish ports, before being shipped to Israel.
The United Nations Security Council Resolution 2170 (2014) identified several funding streams for ISIS, including oil fields and related infrastructure. In mid-2014, the Iraqi National Intelligence Service reported that ISIS was the world's richest jihadist group, with assets worth US$2 billion.
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So back to ChatGPT. Further conversation:

Are you aware of the allegations lodged in the U.N. that Israel bought oil from ISIS?

ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Yes, there have been allegations reported in the media regarding Israel's involvement in purchasing oil from ISIS. The U.N. has indicated that various groups, including ISIS, have engaged in oil trade during the Syrian civil war, with claims suggesting that some of this oil made its way into Israel. However, these claims have been disputed, and the evidence remains contentious.

For more details, you can refer to reputable sources that cover these allegations, like news articles and U.N. reports. If you need specific information, let me know!

You said:
Are there any reports of Israel giving military assistance to the Free Syrian Army?
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Yes, there have been reports indicating that Israel provided humanitarian assistance and medical aid to members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) during the Syrian civil war. While the extent of military assistance remains less clear, Israeli officials have acknowledged the provision of support to certain groups fighting against the Assad regime and Iranian-backed forces, focusing on protecting its borders and preventing threats.

For more detailed information, you can look into reputable news sources covering Israel's involvement in the Syrian conflict.

You said:
Have you read the reports of the Free Syrian Army at times aligning with ISIS?
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Yes, there have been reports indicating that factions within the Free Syrian Army (FSA) occasionally aligned with or cooperated with ISIS in certain situations, especially during the chaotic early years of the Syrian civil war. These alignments were often driven by immediate tactical needs against the Assad regime or other adversaries. However, it's important to note that the FSA is a coalition of various groups, and not all factions collaborated with ISIS. The dynamics were complex and varied across different regions and times.

If you would like more detailed information, please let me know!​

 

[acptulsa]

Certainly we should not have troops in Syria or be bombing Syria.. but they are their neighbors. I don't give a flying $#@! anymore if Israel bombs their neighbors who are attacking them. They are at war.

Yer brainwashed.

You're so brainwashed you think the Alt Right Division of the MSM isn't the MSM.

Language like this suckers you every time.

 

[acptulsa]

Trump was a Honda.

No, it was the Trophy First Lady who was imported.

 

[PAF]

Oh dear! a man of peace and trade who doesn't favor one foreign side above another!
Whatever shall we do?

Which is it? Which side of "stop when me when you've heard something you like" are you on?

1. A man of peace and trade who doesn't favor one foreign side above another.

or

2. Pro ban, sanction and tariff, China and Iran are enemies, Israel is our friend.

 

[PAF]

Furthermore, he was "anti-war" during a "global lockdown" to allow for the largest transfer of wealth. He is a businessman, after all.

That's utter garbage, war would have facilitated even more, that's why his enemies wanted both.

Pfizer, Moderna, Bill Gates, CDC, DARPA... seems the MIC was on board with their directives and all of the travel bans and lockdowns, they even masked up and mandated the jab too.

Money [and power and control] is the driver, which facilitated the largest transfer of wealth to the upper 1%. They really don't care by what means.

I'm not sure how he could make any enemies while he helped line their pockets. Unless you mean: they hate him across the finish line.

 

[Snowball]

Which is it? Which side of "stop when me when you've heard something you like" are you on?

1. A man of peace and trade who doesn't favor one foreign side above another.

or

2. Pro ban, sanction and tariff, China and Iran are enemies, Israel is our friend.

Even IF (and it is 100% certain) Trump is totally on Israel's side, I could still vote for him.

That is par for the course. What is NOT par for the course is accelerating and condoning Israel's actions in the last year,
which are setting it on the path of annihilation for both Israelis and the region. None of this time has Trump ever once criticized Israel.
And now, he's calling for the WORST POSSIBLE escalation, which should not be confused with even being Pro-Israel at all.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Which is it? Which side of "stop when me when you've heard something you like" are you on?

1. A man of peace and trade who doesn't favor one foreign side above another.

or

2. Pro ban, sanction and tariff, China and Iran are enemies, Israel is our friend.

There is no contradiction, you can disagree with some of the points, but they are not inherently contradictory.
Enemies are not the same as friends or neutrals and we can't treat them the same, they don't treat us the same.

 

[vita3]

https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1842967530199273609

 

[dannno]

Yer brainwashed.

You're so brainwashed you think the Alt Right Division of the MSM isn't the MSM.

Language like this suckers you every time.

You don't think the invasion was justified?

 

[acptulsa]

You don't think the invasion was justified?

You love conspiracy theories, but you only love the baseless ones?

Hamas really, really was created by Israel. Do you lose interest in little facts like that when they're verified?

 

[vita3]

$18 Billion in military aid to Israel since last years Palestine blood thirsty jail break attack

Trump ain't stopping that money


https://www.newsweek.com/us-israel-palestinian-conflict-military-spending-harvard-president-joe-biden-1964776

 

[dannno]

You love conspiracy theories, but you only love the baseless ones?

Hamas really, really was created by Israel. Do you lose interest in little facts like that when they're verified?

Weren't they created to fight Hezbollah? Sounds like it backfired.

 

[WarriorLiberty]

You love conspiracy theories, but you only love the baseless ones?

Hamas really, really was created by Israel. Do you lose interest in little facts like that when they're verified?

Not to mention that Qatar is the one that supports and is the backer of Hamas not Iran..

For some reason u will never see the Zionists attack or Criticize "Qatar"



Because Qatar has relationships with the US Govt.

 

[acptulsa]

Weren't they created to fight Hezbollah? Sounds like it backfired.

It was created to do false flag operations.

Israel is socialist. Immigrants can never own land. The only landowners besides the government inherited their land. Most of this land is owned by Muslims, with some Orthodox Christians mixed in too.

There's natural gas under Gaza's shoreline. How does one drive down property values and convince people to sell?

The beaches would also be useful to Israel's burgeoning gay tourism business. They can do it to Maui, but they can't do it to Gaza?

Why do you suddenly only believe Official MSM conspiracy theories?

 

[Snowball]

It's doom off.

The Yiddish are taking a huge bribe package. Most of it will be sent by Fed Now.
Iran's nuclear test woke them up, also, especially the Pentagon.

Iran is a fully nuclear state and is being welcomed into the Sino-Russian Axis.

Trump can get stuffed along with his pals Blinken and Epstein.

 

[jmdrake]

Weren't they created to fight Hezbollah? Sounds like it backfired.

Nope. They were created to undermine the PLO.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

Can somebody just explain to me the mentality where people act like the alternative is Thomas Massie, Rand Paul or Ron Paul instead of rabid leftists that will still have all the same negative views Trump has along with many more? At least there's positives with Trump.

 

[PAF]

Can somebody just explain to me the mentality where people act like the alternative is Thomas Massie, Rand Paul or Ron Paul instead of rabid leftists that will still have all the same negative views Trump has along with many more? At least there's positives with Trump.

Don't that beat all

Children in the US are raised to be communists. Most of the parents are, too, and don’t even know it.

This Is a Slow-Motion Nationalization of the Economy​