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Well, Haiti was sanctioned, fully blockaded and forced to pay reparations for daring to free themselves.... ...that could not have impacted their history and stability any, do you think?
Oh, and 1915 - 1934. I don't see a whole lot of good happening then for the actual Haitian people then, either.
Oh, look, corvees forced upon the Haitians by the US. Look up "corvee", tell me what it means. LoL
You sound like an aging Soviet sympathsizer blaiming North Korea's problems on the sanctions.
Yes, France imposed a heavy debt on Haiti in 1825, which must have depressed it economically to some extent. That debt was settled in full by 1893. The American occupation, partially for geopolitical purposes and partly to collect debts, had nothing to do with that debt. The Haitian government from independence onward was horribly corrupt and incompetent and amassed gigantic debts of its own, nothing whatsoever to do with the French debt. The proximate cause of the US occupation was the total political chaos in Haiti in the preceding years, which both interrupted debt payments and opened to the door to European intervention (Europeans being the major creditors), which the US would not tolerate in the Western Hemisphere.
Haiti's fundamental problems were local in origin, having to do with the instability of its new government. It was and is a classic "anarcho-tyranny." Just like sub-Saharan Africa, and other post-colonial countries which had not already been civilized at the time of colonization. That is my whole point. This is how weak states behave. This is what states looked like in the early days of european civilization or any other civilization. There was no possibility of a functioning state emerging from within that society. Hence the value of a colonial state supported from outside. The training wheels were removed before the kid could balance properly.
And good one, just poo-pooing away 44 more years of THE MOST BRUTAL SLAVERY IN THE WORLD
Compared to what? The fabulous living conditions in modern Haiti?
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