University of MD student brutally beaten by Police - CAUGHT ON TAPE

[phill4paul]

Wrong. There is another better way to end this, and it's to get rid of the constabulary altogether.

We don't need them, we never did need them, and we never will need them. What they are doing in the video is their actual job definition. We hired them to do that. Period.

Hey, I'm behind you 100% on this. I was just positing what could actually be accomplished in the interim to stem police brutality.
In reality getting rid of the police departments are gonna be a hard sell. To many nanny-statists out there that feel a need for them till they call about a lurker and their dog gets shot.
In the meantime I see no reason why citizen revue boards couldn't at least make an officer think twice.
Just an ideas.

 

[pcosmar]

US v THEM

Know who you are.
Know where you stand.

 

[John Taylor]

From the WaPo story comments:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041204377_Comments.html



Fuck me I'm going to say it one more time:

WE ARE ALL CIVILIANS!!!

COPS DO NOT GET TO USE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MILITARY FORCES AND CIVILIANS!!!

COPS ARE JUST AS MUCH CIVILIANS AS ANY OF US.

You hit the nail on the head. We are not the subjects of the police, we are fellow citizens UNDER THE LAW. It's high time police recognize that.

 

[John Taylor]

Hey, I'm behind you 100% on this. I was just positing what could actually be accomplished in the interim to stem police brutality.
In reality getting rid of the police departments are gonna be a hard sell. To many nanny-statists out there that feel a need for them till they call about a lurker and their dog gets shot.
In the meantime I see no reason why citizen revue boards couldn't at least make an officer think twice.
Just an ideas.

Yeah, but you could use the purse strings to start paring them down... slowly but surely, institute hiring freezes for some departments, eliminate some divisions, force departments to focus on violent crime instead of petty things they can use to squeeze the people... gradually ween the people off them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

You hit the nail on the head. We are not the subjects of the police, we are fellow citizens UNDER THE LAW. It's high time police recognize that.

I can't say for sure of course, but I'd wager it was a cop that wrote that comment I quoted.

It is indicative of the militarized training they are receiving, that they now view themselves as occupiers with "hostiles" all around them.

 

[phill4paul]

Yeah, but you could use the purse strings to start paring them down... slowly but surely, institute hiring freezes for some departments, eliminate some divisions, force departments to focus on violent crime instead of petty things they can use to squeeze the people... gradually ween the people off them.

I'm game JT. Believe me they have never helped once in any instance I have encountered them in fact quite the opposite.
I believe the scenario you provided above could well play out given the current economic situation. However, I am of the belief that they will be the LAST on the list of cuts. Those in power need enforcers. Especially enforcers that can generate revenue.
However, I don't see how any town could object to a citizen revue board. Cops should not investigate cops.

 

[ghostbear]

At least from what I could discern on the video, 'excessive force' doesn't even begin to describe the unprofessionalism of these jack booted thugs. Of course, I wasn't there so I can't make any concrete judgements, but even if the college student was in the wrong somehow (not the case from the video evidence), then simply cuffing him or otherwise acting PROFESSIONAL would have been sufficient I would think. Are a large majority of cops now complete COWARDS, that they have to beat an unarmed young college kid sensless like that? I USED to be completely supportive of LE, nowadays I am very circumspect indeed, seeing inexcusable criminal behavior like this. Are they so impressed by their own power that they see any citizen who so much as steps wrong as an extreme threat to their authority? Disgraceful. I have LE officers in my family, as well as having trained some privately- so don't think I am against peace officers just as a whole....

 

[phill4paul]

I can't say for sure of course, but I'd wager it was a cop that wrote that comment I quoted.

It is indicative of the militarized training they are receiving, that they now view themselves as occupiers with "hostiles" all around them.

Fort Apache, the Bronx.

 

[RedStripe]

"a few bad apples"

 

[brandon]

fuck the police....

 

[Anti Federalist]

Hey, I'm behind you 100% on this. I was just positing what could actually be accomplished in the interim to stem police brutality.
In reality getting rid of the police departments are gonna be a hard sell. To many nanny-statists out there that feel a need for them till they call about a lurker and their dog gets shot.
In the meantime I see no reason why citizen revue boards couldn't at least make an officer think twice.
Just an ideas.

We've got one in the little town I live in.

Had a RP person on the board for while who was my local gun dealer and my neighbor.

Too bad he was consistently over ruled by the two other cop lovers and soldier sniffers on the board. He got frustrated and quit last year.

I'd run for the position myself if I could be reliably in town for the monthly meetings.

 

[phill4paul]

We've got one in the little town I live in.

Had a RP person on the board for while who was my local gun dealer and my neighbor.

Too bad he was consistently over ruled by the two other cop lovers and soldier sniffers on the board. He got frustrated and quit last year.

I'd run for the position myself if I could be reliably in town for the monthly meetings.

And I suppose there is the rub. Citizens just don't "get it." Also, the majority of revue boards out there today really have no teeth. All they are allowed to do is make recommendations.
Ah, well, guess the only thing to do is stay pissed about it and keep spreading the word.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This story is old, but one of the worst I've ever seen.

Like the story in this thread, it's the same situation, innocent man beaten half to death (in this case, you can see the cops smash this man's face into the concrete and hear his teeth break) and had it not been for the the video showing up of what actually happened, this man would have got sent to prison.

Videotape shows man beaten by Denver Police

DENVER - The Denver District Attorney's office has dropped its case against a man who was facing three years in prison for assault, after 9Wants to Know obtained and showed prosecutors a videotape of the man's arrest.

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=97466&provider=top

Video at site

 

[catdd]

A lot of these cops are returning military vets.

 

[John Taylor]

A lot of these cops are returning military vets.

And a lot of them aren't.

You don't see Adam Kokesh smashing people's teeth into curbs.

 

[catdd]

And a lot of them aren't.

You don't see Adam Kokesh smashing people's teeth into curbs.

So friggin what if you don't? You see a lot of them right here that ARE!
And a lot more that didn't lift a finger to stop it.

 

[phill4paul]

This story is old, but one of the worst I've ever seen.

Like the story in this thread, it's the same situation, innocent man beaten half to death (in this case, you can see the cops smash this man's face into the concrete and hear his teeth break) and had it not been for the the video showing up of what actually happened, this man would have got sent to prison.

Videotape shows man beaten by Denver Police

DENVER - The Denver District Attorney's office has dropped its case against a man who was facing three years in prison for assault, after 9Wants to Know obtained and showed prosecutors a videotape of the man's arrest.

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=97466&provider=top

Video at site

Again AF you have quite the nose for these articles.

 

[phill4paul]

So friggin what if you don't? You see a lot of them right here that ARE!
And a lot more that didn't lift a finger to stop it. Don't you dare start defending these people.

I don't think he was defending them, IMHO. I just thought he was pointing out that there are just as many academy trained LE as vets.
I may be wrong.

 

[catdd]

Well something is going on with the police force these days. I've never in my lifetime seen them acting with this kind of brutality.
I'm just saying that a lot of these guys returning are a few shy of a 6-pack and probably need psychiatric evaluations before being put on the force.
You know how many of those guys are suicidal? There is an insane number of suicides occurring in active duty and returning military personnel.

 

[speciallyblend]

i have seen this video several times. the bottom line these cops should be fired and never allowed in any law enforcement or even a mall cop! these police officers should be sued as well as the department! these officers should be arrested charged and brought to court!!

anything less is BS!!! of course if they are found innocent then they would be allowed to work as law enforcement but if guilty they never should be allowed to near any law enforcement agency!!

this is just plain insanity. many people should be fired over this and i can promise you this isn't the first time just one of many caught on tape! this truly makes all police officers look extermely bad!!! face palm