University of MD student brutally beaten by Police - CAUGHT ON TAPE

[Brian4Liberty]

Also, I seriously doubt the total number of instances of police brutality is anything near the level of, say, the 1970's, 1950's, 1920's, and so forth. Even moreso when considered on a per capita basis. Granted, the reported cases are up from the previous decade, but that could be attributed to camera video phone ubiquity alone, which has taken place over the same timeframe.

I am in the process of reading an autobiography from a WWII sailor. From what he describes, big cities (NY, SF, etc) were madhouses (at least at night after some drinking). Not much gunfire, but everyone was beating the shit out of other (muggings, service branches against each other, etc), and then the Shore Patrol, MPs, and local Police would come in and continue to beat the shit out of people.

Seems we have become more civilized over the years, at least in terms of constant hand to hand combat in the streets. Then again, maybe not.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Damned right. I'm on dialup and can't really watch vids. Let me guess - McKenna is a... dare I say it... NEGRO?

Can't tell based on the video. Wouldn't surprise me either way.

Regardless it is fucked up beyond belief.

 

[catdd]

Well depending on your definition of "the government's version of 9/11," you may or may not win that bet. (Some people define "the government's version" as absolutely any view other than Alex Jones' Mossad/CIA/nano-thermite bullshit. Others are more precise.) "

The point is: when you have evidence of being abused, you have a case. When you don't have evidence, you generally don't have much of a case. Injuries and so forth can count, as well as eye-witness accounts. But videos don't lie, and there's more and more and more video evidence of it.

I don't understand why you would be concerned with the plight of Blacks in the old South or old NORTH for that matter when we have a major problem like the militarization of our police force happening here and now that is a threat to every race, creed and color of people.
Again, I find it absolutely amazing that in spite of all the links I have shown and all the evidence provided, you still insist that cases of blatant PB haven't risen since 9/11.
I'm 55 years old and I lived through the riots of the 60's and early 70's and except for those instances I have never seen anything like what is happening today.
All the way from tasing old people and pregnant women repeatedly, to handcuffing and arresting children, to beating the daylights out of unruly teenagers.
I think there is a direct link from militarizing the police force to the kind of animalistic abuse we are watching against everyday citizens today and I am going to stick to that belief until someone shows me some real proof to the contrary. Of course this could all be the handiwork of the DHS placing more emphasis on brutal tactics because they are afraid of an uprising but who knows for sure.

And there is some good evidence to support Mossad involvement into 9/11 so calling it bullshit shows a certain amount of closed-mindedness on your part. And as far as the nano-thermite goes... well, it makes more sense than office fires causing the freefall of bldg 7.
And I'm not an AJ fan so that just proves a certain amount of overlap among various people.

 

[TinCanToNA]

I think there is a direct link from militarizing the police force to the kind of animalistic abuse we are watching against everyday citizens today and I am going to stick to that belief until someone shows me some real proof to the contrary. Of course this could all be the handiwork of the DHS placing more emphasis on brutal tactics because they are afraid of an uprising but who knows for sure.

I reserve the right to be wrong on this issue, having not spent as much time studying the evidence as I have many other issues. There may indeed be a rise in police brutality; indeed the statistics there is a rise in the number of reported cases.

Even though there is evidence of a correlation between the rise in reported cases of police brutality and the timeline after 9/11, there are many other correlations to consider--the video camera ubiquity case I previously mentioned being among them. Yes, there can be many links to many factors, but I still remain unconvinced that PTSD, vet-hiring, and other such aspects adequately account for any rise in actual incidents of police brutality. If anything, I think the general correlation between all police hiring (i.e. police force size increasing in aggregate) may be among the primary reasons, with vet-hiring being a natural correlary but not necessarily a driving factor. Just things I'm considering; but I guess it's close enough to your point ultimately.

 

[catdd]

Thank you.
This was a good conversation.

 

[TinCanToNA]

Thank you.
This was a good conversation.

I agree, and thank you

 

[Anti Federalist]

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[phill4paul]

Well I'm not going to argue the militarization of the police force and the role it plays in PB any further but just remember your stance on this issue for future reference. And besides, we are talking about contributing factors here not the absolute cause.
But it amazes me that you don't believe police brutality has increased since 9/11 even with all the documentation. Maybe you have some motive for not believing it such as you don't believe we should have a police force to begin with?

Catdd my understanding of policing forces, the force they have projected and the power that allowed them to project that force is rooted in history.
The abuse of power, in the jurisdiction and time, rivals what is being done today.
Agreed, it seems there is a ramp up. However, the abuse has always been there. Oft times with greater ferocity.
One has only to look at the major cities in late 1800s and early 1900s.
Police forces were created not to "protect and serve" the people but to "protect and serve" the state.
This is not something new or different to our generation.

 

[xd9fan]

these fuckers need jail time...not just loss of job but jail time......I hope the criminal and civil suits fly...

 

[phill4paul]

these fuckers need jail time...not just loss of job but jail time......I hope the criminal and civil suits fly...

These fuckers need to be outed. These FUCKERS need to be threatened by the members of their community. To have their fuckin' house burned to the ground and family threatened to the point that MOVE from where they are living and adopt a more humble relationship with those that they SHARE a community with.
I'll probably be banned for this view. See ya in a week. But that is what I believe.
If ya disagree than your an apologist. Fuck ya!

 

[tropicangela]

This is not something new or different to our generation.

except maybe the riot gear?

 

[tropicangela]

Also, regarding the subforum... what I've thought for a while is that we need a free market justice database.
A separate site online, where we can amass data on offenders.
Whenever one of us "gets out of line", it goes in a database, and it has consequences.
I say we do the same to them.

There should be a way for business owners to be able to check online to see if someone is an offender against free market justice.
For instance, If I'm running a Bed and Breakfast, I should be able to check registrations against something online, and if it turns out that it's a cop who beats college students, I should be able to refuse his business.

No reason why we shouldn't be able to make their lives as miserable as we legally can.

i like the layout of the CATO map with sources. http://www.cato.org/raidmap

anyone here up for making one?

 

[tropicangela]

Sorry. Meant to say my post #3 here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2640915#post2640915


Always take these numbers with a grain of salt. I think there are about 1.5 million active duty US military. If that's the case then

Total US population 11 per 100,000 suicide
US Military 9 per 100,000 suicide

Which is actually lower than the civilian rate of suicide. Now there are probably some issues here like gender and age that I frankly don't have the time or patience to get into. Either way - it doesn't seem to be more a problem in the military than it does the population at large.

I always try to see the bigger picture of any news story. I don't mistrust the MSM like many here. I take them at their word just like in this story nothing they said is false or a lie (otherwise it would be easy to expose them) rather by not giving you the whole picture they paint a particular agenda.

Thirty try to commit suicide each day, on average, reports the Army Times.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0423/18-veterans-suicide-day/

 

[tremendoustie]

Check this site out: http://www.unknownnews.org/cops.html

More than half a dozen stories per day.

It's sickening, really ...

 

[carmaphob]

Check this site out: http://www.unknownnews.org/cops.html

More than half a dozen stories per day.

It's sickening, really ...

Very sickening, but a good link. Thanks.

 

[tropicangela]

This surveillance video is missing and the plot thickens...

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4170647/missing-police-brutality-video/?playlist_id=86982

 

[John Taylor]

Anyone know how this ended up?