UN climate chief: Communism is best to fight global warming

[Occam's Banana]

Who does the government have a reason to be mean to then?

Edward Snowden. And Iran. And people who make mistakes on their tax forms.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Yeah, let Cuba and North Korea handle it.

 

[jmdrake]

No, it's not about being green as in to be nice to plants and animals. You don't need to own the air you breathe to want to breathe clean air. You certainly don't need to own the water you drink to want to keep it clean.

Ancap's answer to West Virginia chemical leak : it's the government's fault, if only Freedom Industries owned the water they polluted, this would NEVER happen!

Ummmm....okay. And communist China's answer is.......? Encourage mothers to kill their baby girls through a one child policy? FTR the libertarian answer (which isn't quite the ancap answer) is that whoever is affected by the pollution should be able to sue the polluters. Now...what happens with the polluting industry is government owned? The biggest pollution problem we have in Tennessee is a coal ash spill caused by the government owned TVA. In fact it may be the worst environmental disaster in American history.

Okay. The victims were able to sue, but only after getting "permission" from the state of Tennessee to sue itself. And ultimately who pays for the damages? Why the taxpayers of course. So the government screws up your environment and you have to pay for the cleanup and the damages. Oh, and since TVA is government owned, it gets an automagic bailout. If this had been a private actor it might have been forced out of business. So....how well is this model working?

 

[jmdrake]

mean enough to the polluters

The worst polluter of water in U.S. history is a government owned agency. Do you expect the government to be "mean" to itself? If so, let me know when James Clapper gets prosecuted.

 

[Seraphim]

Hi Mr. UN Climate Chief, a view of Communist China:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-02/guest-post-pollution-threatens-chinas-food-security

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...-orders-cars-roads-pollution-literally-charts

NOW KINDLY GO FUCK YOURSELF.

 

[jmdrake]

The quoted and bolded part was what she actually said, that's quite different than saying communism is best to fight global warming.

Umm...."doing it right" is also quoted, although you didn't bold it. And the DailyCaller copied/pasted the article from Bloomberg who actually interviewed Ms. Figueres. So if she didn't say "doing it right" with respect to China then she should sue Bloomberg for libel. I doubt that will happen because "doing it right" is most likely an accurate quote.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...ina-best-on-climate-change-figueres-says.html
China, the top emitter of greenhouse gases, is also the country that’s “doing it right” when it comes to addressing global warming, the United Nations’ chief climate official said.

The nation has some of the toughest energy-efficiency standards for buildings and transportation and its support for photovoltaic technology helped reduce solar-panel costs by 80 percent since 2008, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, said yesterday in an interview at Bloomberg News headquarters in New York.

The country is facing growing public pressure from citizens to reduce air pollution, due in large part to burning coal. Its efforts to promote energy efficiency and renewable power stem from the realization that doing so will pay off in the long term, Figueres said.

 

[PRB]

Umm...."doing it right" is also quoted, although you didn't bold it. And the DailyCaller copied/pasted the article from Bloomberg who actually interviewed Ms. Figueres. So if she didn't say "doing it right" with respect to China then she should sue Bloomberg for libel. I doubt that will happen because "doing it right" is most likely an accurate quote.

I don't doubt she said doing it right, I apologize for not highlighting that part. But that's still my point, it's quite different than saying communism is best to fight global warming.

Saying America is best at bullying other countries is not the same as saying "black Presidents/capitalism/crony capitalism" is best for bullying other countries. Do you get the difference? Best at (a country) vs best for (policy they allegedly adopt).

 

[PRB]

is that whoever is affected by the pollution should be able to sue the polluters.

and the status quo is stopping people from doing that? Erin Brocovich is just fiction?

 

[Grubb556]

Believe it or not central planning actually caused some of the greatest environmental disasters ever.

Aral Sea

 

[Teenager For Ron Paul]

That may be the stupidest thing I've read this month.

 

[Philhelm]

The funny thing about Commies, hipsters, beatniks, and assorted scum, is how much they love concrete jungles yet jerk off to Gaia.

 

[jmdrake]

and the status quo is stopping people from doing that? Erin Brocovich is just fiction?

She's no more fictional than the TVA. And you bringing her up actually strengthens my point. An Erin Brocovich could only sue an entity like TVA if the government in question gave her permission to sue TVA. It's called "sovereign immunity." The more government owns industry the less accountability there is.

Edit: And we aren't just talking about the "status quo". Thankfully there is still some freedom left in this country. But if people get the idea that communist China is "doing it right" and decide to follow that model in order to "stop pollution", then what kind of an effect with the Erin Brocovich's of the world have?

 

[Dr.3D]

It's all a moot subject anyway. These is no global warming.