UFOs 'tampered with nukes'

[pcosmar]

They helped identify the objects as piloted by more advanced species and helped indicate that they do not have hostile intentions.

Actually they assume that, not having either seen pilots nor communicating with the objects.
It is an opinion based on their assumptions.

 

[idirtify]

Actually they assume that, not having either seen pilots nor communicating with the objects.
It is an opinion based on their assumptions.

But their opinions and assumptions are quite reasonable, based on what they saw. What else but more advanced species could be piloting crafts with such technological abilities? And what else but peaceful intentions could cause them to deactivate nukes?

If you have more logical assumptions, let’s hear them.

 

[pcosmar]

But their opinions and assumptions are quite reasonable, based on what they saw. What else but more advanced species could be piloting crafts with such technological abilities? And what else but peaceful intentions could cause them to deactivate nukes?

If you have more logical assumptions, let’s hear them.

You have your opinion based on your faith despite never touching these "vehicles" nor seeing their occupants.

My faith is different in that I believe that there is a spiritual dimension and that there are spiritual beings. It is my belief that these are spiritual beings and that they have been here for a very long time.
You believe that they are benevolent. I believe that they are not.
And just as your belief is based on faith so is mine.

 

[idirtify]

You have your opinion based on your faith despite never touching these "vehicles" nor seeing their occupants.

My faith is different in that I believe that there is a spiritual dimension and that there are spiritual beings. It is my belief that these are spiritual beings and that they have been here for a very long time.
You believe that they are benevolent. I believe that they are not.
And just as your belief is based on faith so is mine.

No, not “faith”; just LOGIC and REASON. As I said, they are the most reasonable assumptions based on the observations.

But you disagree and give your assumptions, that they are malevolent spiritual beings (demons); which implies that you think your assumptions are MORE logical (and that you KNOW their identity AND origin).
With both meanings intended: That’s “HYSTERICAL” !

 

[idirtify]

You know in the movies when more advanced people visit a primitive tribe and they are worshiped as gods? You think that’s how it will be when aliens make contact? Think again. It will be worse than that. Just look at some of the hysterical replies here. If a more advanced species visits here, the “natives” will run amok shouting things like “it’s the devil” or “they are demons” or “the antichrist has come” or “the apocalypse is here” or “it’s the end of days and Revelations is upon us!”

 

[pcosmar]

No, not “faith”; just LOGIC and REASON. As I said, they are the most reasonable assumptions based on the observations.

But you disagree and give your assumptions, that they are malevolent spiritual beings (demons); which implies that you think your assumptions are MORE logical (and that you KNOW their identity AND origin).
With both meanings intended: That’s “HYSTERICAL” !

 

[Bman]

You know in the movies when more advanced people visit a primitive tribe and they are worshiped as gods? You think that’s how it will be when aliens make contact? Think again. It will be worse than that. Just look at some of the hysterical replies here. If a more advanced species visits here, the “natives” will run amok shouting things like “it’s the devil” or “they are demons” or “the antichrist has come” or “the apocalypse is here” or “it’s the end of days and Revelations is upon us!”

They do that now.

 

[pcosmar]

Started a thread in HT to expand on and continue discussion.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2910128#post2910128

 

[tpreitzel]

Started a thread in HT to expand on and continue discussion.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2910128#post2910128

As I just posted in your thread in Hot Topics:

Even Jacques Vallee would mostly agree with you. The die hard followers of "UFOs" as "space brothers" simply base their "logic" on assumptions of unwitting observers. Charles Halt (RFI in 1980) recently made the statement that he experienced the 1980 UFO "from a distance" and was thereby somehow immune from the possibility of personal contact and effect. Personally, I find it rather amusing that unwitting observers like Charles Halt think of likely supernatural (spiritual) experiences in term of the physical senses, i.e. since he didn't actually TOUCH the object, he likely wasn't a personal contactee. Has he ever undergone hypnosis to find out? To be honest and fair, one can't even raise the topic of UFOs WITHOUT raising the topic of religion as the two have much in common although they're not identical. Read Vallee's Messengers of Deception for further instruction. These entities are not likely our "space brothers" regardless of their overt messages delivered directly or through patsies. Their covert messages, sneaking around primarily at night (see Dr. Karla Turner), are of more concern to me.

 

[idirtify]

They do that now.

Yeah, it makes one ponder which culture is actually more “primitive” and “native”. Sometimes I think all of humanity is still deeply stuck in our early superstition phase of development – and those few who aren’t are stuck in the basement of the asylum (hell).

 

[idirtify]

As I just posted in your thread in Hot Topics:

Even Jacques Vallee would mostly agree with you. The die hard followers of "UFOs" as "space brothers" simply base their "logic" on assumptions of unwitting observers. Charles Halt (RFI in 1980) recently made the statement that he experienced the 1980 UFO "from a distance" and was thereby somehow immune from the possibility of personal contact and effect. Personally, I find it rather amusing that unwitting observers like Charles Halt think of likely supernatural (spiritual) experiences in term of the physical senses, i.e. since he didn't actually TOUCH the object, he likely wasn't a personal contactee. Has he ever undergone hypnosis to find out? To be honest and fair, one can't even raise the topic of UFOs WITHOUT raising the topic of religion as the two have much in common although they're not identical. Read Vallee's Messengers of Deception for further instruction. These entities are not likely our "space brothers" regardless of their overt messages delivered directly or through patsies. Their covert messages, sneaking around primarily at night (see Dr. Karla Turner), are of more concern to me.

So you are calling these witnesses “die hard followers”, “unwitting observers”, and “patsies”? If not, what is your relevant point?

 

[reduen]

I rated this thread five stars for pcosmar's posts alone.....!

Good stuff....

 

[libertygrl]

Cool! Anti-Nuke Aliens!