UC Berkeley cancels Milo Yiannopoulos event amid violent protest (RIOT) - 2/1 - LIVE

[smokemonsc]

Yea, but you will want to see the breakdown. I have attended graduation ceremonies at UTD, Loyola in Chicago, NWMSU, Boston College, my 2 different degrees etc etc and when you actually look at the break down of the departments, you would see that the gender/race studies are barely represented in the final count.

Btw, do you know that the 2nd most popular major of people going to medical school is psychology? But technically, someone would look at it and just dismiss the degree because it is under social sciences. I have been to way too many graduations and it is something I try to look at when I am there. I am here to tell you that this idea that universities and graduating hordes of social science and humanity majors is a myth.

NPR had a really good study on this:

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...or-four-decades-of-college-degrees-in-1-graph

Was up to only 2011 though.

 

[Schifference]

If a liberal were due to speak and conservatives rioted, would it end with one arrest?

 

[timosman]

That I do not want waste an oz of energy defending a pedofriendly, Trump supporting degenerate? We all have to pick our battles, waste your energy on him, for me, I just decided that this is not going to be my battleground. I would save my outrage for a more deserving person.

At the end of the day, we have to choose our fights and what could be more libertarian than that?

So you no longer call for him to be tarred and feathered? It seems somebody is backpedalling. Nice.

 

[juleswin]

Whether deliberate or not, this is causing many on the right to yell for the Feds to do something. This is very bad response to bad actors. Seems the locals are not doing anything to mitigate it either.

Everyone thought the absolute police state would come under Obama. It could not because of likely resistance from gun owners, military etc. Now the pieces are getting placed for it to steam roll in with people cheering for it.

You know, I have been rethinking a lot my old political stance since a lot the people in the moement I used to listen and trust have essentially shown me that they are frauds and liars. Normally, I would say calling the feds for any reason whatsoever is a no no.

But when you have really bad actors destroying private property, causing trouble and there is a protection service called the federal govt that you pay money to every year not really doing anything. I have no problem at all with the people being damaged calling in their protection service to come in and clear the trash. I am not necessarily trilled with the people on the "right" living in other states and not directly connected to the crisis calling the feds. And if they leave after they are called in, I have no problem with bringing in the fed. It is a risk I am wiling to take.

I also can see your point, how the protesters and some in the right are playing right into the hands of the police state, but violent protesters are not going to take care of themselves by doing nothing. If the people being damaged cannot take care of the problem, by all means call the feds. Maybe next time people will think twice before going on a destruction rampage.

 

[seapilot]

If a liberal were due to speak and conservatives rioted, would it end with one arrest?

I have never observed conservatives riot. Is it even possible for them to?

 

[timosman]

I have never observed conservatives riot. Is it even possible for them to?

The conservatives usually employ logic in their arguments so no need to get emotional.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

If students would major in stuff that's hard like engineering they wouldn't have time for protests.

Hard to say how many of the black-block rioters are actually students.

 

[juleswin]

So you no longer call for him to be tarred and feathered? It seems somebody is backpedalling. Nice.

For all I care, is an idiom I am using to express the fact that I do not care either way what happens to Milo. Tar and feather him, give him a big orgy, every Trump supporter on this forum forming a queue to toss his salad etc etc. It makes no difference to me.

If not caring for his welfare makes me not a libertarian, then I do not want to ever be called a libertarian. Also, please the last sentence very carefully before asking me another question.

 

[Madison320]

This is another misconception about universities. Go to any graduating ceremony in any of these major universities and pick up the little book with the list of the graduating students from each department and you will see that departments like engineering, biology, physics, chemistry, business admin, accountancy, education etc still account for over 90% of the graduating class. We all hear about gender studies, race studies etc etc but those are just small small fraction of the people that graduate from these universities.

Believe me, if they have time to go to the stadiums and watch football every other Saturday, they have time to go out and protest when there is no football on campus. Also put into consideration this happened before mid terms when most people are still maintaining their A grades. This is happening because Trump is very unpopular and Milo is a vile, Trump supporting, degenerate, $#@! stirrer who is going there to provoke people.

I am supporting any violence or property destruction but at the same time, I would not put anything on the line to defend him.

Looking at this list I'd say conservatively that well over half are easy and worthless:

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/20...ees-in-1-graph

 

[timosman]

For all I care, is an idiom I am using to express the fact that I do not care either way what happens to Milo. Tar and feather him, give him a big orgy, every Trump supporter on this forum forming a queue to toss his salad etc etc. It makes no difference to me.

If not caring for his welfare makes me not a libertarian, then I do not want to ever be called a libertarian. Also, please the last sentence very carefully before asking me another question.

It seems to me if you were as disinterested as you describe you would not be posting in this thread. (This is not a question)

 

[juleswin]

NPR had a really good study on this:

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...or-four-decades-of-college-degrees-in-1-graph

Was up to only 2011 though.

Thanks for posting this cos this is in line with what I have witnessed at graduation ceremonies. This misnomer that colleges is filled with SJW majors needs to die fast. You read comments sections of articles on yahoo talking about some nutty social science professor and you see lots of people saying that they are not going to send their kids to university anymore because one university had A nutty professor in it.

Complete and utter rubbish.

 

[Madison320]

Hard to say how many of the black-block rioters are actually students.

I guess it's not really the protesting that bothers me so much. It's more the stories you hear about teachers pushing socialist agendas in their classroom. If you were taking real classes like math, science, and english where you are learning real skills, you wouldn't be talking about politics in class.

 

[timosman]

Thanks for posting this cos this is in line with what I have witnessed at graduation ceremonies. This misnomer that colleges is filled with SJW majors needs to die fast. You read comments sections of articles on yahoo talking about some nutty social science professor and you see lots of people saying that they are not going to send their kids to university anymore because one university had A nutty professor in it.

Complete and utter rubbish.

The professor was not nutty?

 

[juleswin]

Looking at this list I'd say conservatively that well over half are easy and worthless:

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/20...ees-in-1-graph

Saying something is easy doesn't mean it is worthless, take for example, graduating nursing school is easy but it is definitely not worthless. So my question is this, what percentage of those majors do you think is worthless?

 

[seapilot]

I think campuses probably have a lot more socialists than the rest of the country percentage wise. As with the rest of the country they are the most vocal, manipulative minority that tries to control everyone else. College students are peer oriented and most probably do not want to start controversy, especially with a nut crazed socialists barking at them for having any opinion contrary to theirs.

 

[juleswin]

I guess it's not really the protesting that bothers me so much. It's more the stories you hear about teachers pushing socialist agendas in their classroom. If you were taking real classes like math, science, and english where you are learning real skills, you wouldn't be talking about politics in class.

Btw, some of the most controversial politics discussion most people have in colleges come during the English class. The problem is not that people aren't taking math, science and English classes, it is that they have to satisfy the humanity and social science course requirements to graduate. And remember its only about 2-3 class for most people while they end of taking dozens of courses tailored for their majors like economics, business, accountancy, chemisty, physics, biology, maths, english etc classes.

 

[angelatc]

That I do not want waste an oz of energy defending a pedofriendly, Trump supporting degenerate? ?

We're not defending what he is. We're defending his right to say any damned thing he wants to say.

 

[angelatc]

The conservatives usually employ logic in their arguments so no need to get emotional.

Unfortunately for us, emotions are what win elections.

 

[timosman]

Unfortunately for us, emotions are what win elections.

It is time to start calling this shit out.

 

[specsaregood]

Thanks for posting this cos this is in line with what I have witnessed at graduation ceremonies. This misnomer that colleges is filled with SJW majors needs to die fast. You read comments sections of articles on yahoo talking about some nutty social science professor and you see lots of people saying that they are not going to send their kids to university anymore because one university had A nutty professor in it.

Complete and utter rubbish.

Have you ever been to Berkeley?