TYT Cenk on Israel offensive

[pcosmar]

Megaphone,, there's an app for that.

 

[paulbot24]

Where did you get this teaching? Can you please tell me where did you first hear it and from whom?

Clyde doesn't confuse Liberalism and Libertarianism in his posts so my money is on ClydeCoulter.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Where did you get this teaching? Can you please tell me where did you first hear it and from whom?

Not taught, researched. Naming something "Israel" doesn't make it have anything to do with the biblical hebrews.

 

[androidappme]

Clyde doesn't confuse Liberalism and Libertarianism in his posts so my money is on ClydeCoulter.

Dang it! I am sorry about my tablets auto-prediction feature. It should be libertarianism.

 

[androidappme]

Israel started the six day war by attacking Egypt.

Oh man!

In 1967, the Arab nations surrounding Israel ordered UN Peacekeepers to leave the border areas. They called up their armies and enforced a boycott on shipping going to Israel, which did not have a port.

What do you do? Starve to death?

Now when shipping is stopped to Gaza, everyone is so concerned. But the fact of the matter is, the Arabs started it first.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Oh man!

In 1967, the Arab nations surrounding Israel ordered UN Peacekeepers to leave the border areas. They called up their armies and enforced a boycott on shipping going to Israel, which did not have a port.

What do you do? Starve to death?

Now when shipping is stopped to Gaza, everyone is so concerned. But the fact of the matter is, the Arabs started it first.

Like "sanctions"?

 

[androidappme]

Like "sanctions"?

Shipping blockades are like sanctions. In 1967, commercial freight service wasn't popular. No food, no clothes, nothing without shipping in those days.

About sanctions :

Israel and the Quartet said that sanctions would be lifted only when the Palestinian government has met the following demands:

Renunciation of violence,
Recognition of Israel by the Hamas government (as the PLO had done), and
Acceptance of previous agreements between Israel and the Palestinian National Authority.

 

[UWDude]

No, it isn't. That land was given to the Rothschild Dynasty after WW2 as payment for the UK honoring the Balfour Declaration. Then it was settled by people who haven't a drop of semitic blood in their veins.

"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9)

Zionism was originally a communist movement too, and Israel was meant to be a communist state.

 

[UWDude]

Shipping blockades are like sanctions. In 1967, commercial freight service wasn't popular. No food, no clothes, nothing without shipping in those days.

About sanctions :

Israel and the Quartet said that sanctions would be lifted only when the Palestinian government has met the following demands:

Renunciation of violence,
Recognition of Israel by the Hamas government (as the PLO had done), and
Acceptance of previous agreements between Israel and the Palestinian National Authority.

Why does Israel get to make the rules and demands?
It's because we give them $3B a year in awesome death machines.
I can't wait until America doesn't have any more cookies to give them.

 

[UWDude]

How do you justify the settlements and this:

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In the original 1947 UN partition plan, The UN gave about 55% of the land to about 31% of the people (the Jews), and this 31% only actually owned 6% of the land which was purchased legitimately. This is what caused the first war, because the Arabs rejected the plan.

And rightfully so. Too bad they lost.

 

[dillo]

Right here Cenk exposes that the US government is owned by Israel

Want another analogy? Israel has over 5 times as many UN violations/resolutions accused on it than the entire reign of Libya's Mommar Qaddafi. When CIA-Mossad fabricated and backed NTC Terrorists attacked the Libyan government in strategic locations and Qaddafi struck back, Qaddafi was the Bad Guy. When the World's largest Concentration Camp (GAZA) is struck by Israeli Drones and War Planes, and children are killed, the Pasteurization are the Bad Guys.

This is how the New World Order works.

source?

 

[Demigod]

It's my understanding that the rockets launched from Gaza aren't meant to hit specific targets; if that's the case then it is terrorism. It's also my understanding that when Israel launches a strike it is against specific targets, ie. missile warehouse, enemy combatant, rocket launch sites. Where am I wrong?

It is not terrorism it is a rocket barrage.When NATO threw cassette bombs in Yugoslavia into populated areas I didn't see a 10 seconds material about it.When a Palestinian fires a garage made rocket into an Israeli city then it is terror and a crime against humanity.

Was the bombing of Drezden a terrorist attack ? No that was a strategical destruction of infrastructure so to have a change of policy in Germany.

Killing with F-16 and killing with RPG`s or IED`s is the same thing, killing and as the saying goes "All is fair in love and war".


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[Demigod]

I know it's unpopular here, but I side with Israel in these disputes. That's Israel's land. They continually get attacked by racists. Israel isn't the instigator. If people stopped blowing themselves up and attacking Israel, there would be no retaliation. Does anyone really believe that Israel is going out of its way to take over the Middle East?

That said, I really don't want the US entangling in these conflicts.

See who started first with suicide attacks on the British army stationed in Palestine.The British knew what was going to happen and tried as hard to stop it.But Europe trying to hide under the carpet that instead of fighting against the NAZI`s almost the entire continent was behind them ( some more some less ) started shipping all people of Jewish religion to Palestine and the USA threw their full support behind them.

The Soviets routinely supplied the Arabs with faulty equipment and bad intelligence ,the only ones who had ever really fought against what was going to happen were the British who eventually stopped their support because of the USA and then Israel won.

Since then the whole region has gone to hell,back and now going for a second dip.


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[misean]

See who started first with suicide attacks on the British army stationed in Palestine.The British knew what was going to happen and tried as hard to stop it.But Europe trying to hide under the carpet that instead of fighting against the NAZI`s almost the entire continent was behind them ( some more some less ) started shipping all people of Jewish religion to Palestine and the USA threw their full support behind them.

The Soviets routinely supplied the Arabs with faulty equipment and bad intelligence ,the only ones who had ever really fought against what was going to happen were the British who eventually stopped their support because of the USA and then Israel won.

Since then the whole region has gone to hell,back and now going for a second dip.


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This is 2012, not 1953. Israel won the land. Period. If they get attacked, they have every moral right to hit back as hard as they want.

I'm not even a fan of Israel. But if the Arabs would stop attacking there wouldn't be a problem. Israel isn't the aggressor. Just because their existence is an inconvenience doesn't mean they don't have a right to exist. They should stand up for themselves.

 

[amy31416]

This is 2012, not 1953. Israel won the land. Period. If they get attacked, they have every moral right to hit back as hard as they want.

I'm not even a fan of Israel. But if the Arabs would stop attacking there wouldn't be a problem. Israel isn't the aggressor. Just because their existence is an inconvenience doesn't mean they don't have a right to exist. They should stand up for themselves.

A few things:

1. You need to read up on Middle Eastern history, and not some Fox News version of it. The real history of how Israel was formed and their actions there since 1948. They started out as the aggressors and continue to be the aggressors. Dragging us along with them.

2. "Winning" land due to a conflict is illegal, not to mention unethical.

This latest military action was brought on by Israel, directly. Operation Cast Lead was also brought on by Israel when the IDF broke the ceasefire with Hamas. That happened on election night of 2008--convenient, eh?

I don't care whose side you're on, or even that you take a side, but you should know the facts if you're going to join a discussion about it.

 

[specsaregood]

2. "Winning" land due to a conflict is illegal, not to mention unethical.

I disagree. The only right one has to a piece of land is having the power to take and hold it.

 

[DFF]

More atypical behavior from the rogue, racist, non-democratic state of "Israel."

Truman may have doomed us all by signing this piece of shit into existence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

In 2003, Martin van Creveld thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[22] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."

 

[amy31416]

I disagree. The only right one has to a piece of land is having the power to take and hold it.

You are SO not invited to my next barbecue.

 

[misean]

A few things:

1. You need to read up on Middle Eastern history, and not some Fox News version of it. The real history of how Israel was formed and their actions there since 1948. They started out as the aggressors and continue to be the aggressors. Dragging us along with them.

2. "Winning" land due to a conflict is illegal, not to mention unethical.

This latest military action was brought on by Israel, directly. Operation Cast Lead was also brought on by Israel when the IDF broke the ceasefire with Hamas. That happened on election night of 2008--convenient, eh?

I don't care whose side you're on, or even that you take a side, but you should know the facts if you're going to join a discussion about it.

I definitely don't know as much as should about the Middle East conflicts.

The bolded is obviously wrong. If you win a war, that is your land. If your land gets attacked, you can fight back aggressively.

Most of the borders of the world are drawn up through military conflicts and settlements. You may not accept this as true. You don't need to be a condescending bitch for something that 99.999% of the rest of the world accepts that as true.

 

[DFF]

source?

Hollywood is correct. Read about the Israeli lobby, AIPAC. They literally own almost all our politicians (no, they don't own Ron Paul). Obama, Romney, and virtually everything in between, are ALL whores for Israel and traitors to the United States.