TX Man Sentenced to Life in Prison for 9th DWI

[PaulConventionWV]

if these people didn't read the words, they wouldn't have the thoughts.
non sequitor that.
yes, it probably wasn't the intent... but it is the result.

That's like saying guns kill people.

Does reading words on a page make you do something? No. You made the decision to interpret in a way that requires violence, then you made the decision to carry it out. The written words didn't do anything.

 

[torchbearer]

That's like saying guns kill people.

the bible was quoted to justify their lust for violence via a third party agency we call government.
not the same because I didn't say the bible killed people, I said it influenced their thoughts. ideas are powerful, and reading things give people ideas.
unless you want to contest that point?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

the bible was quoted to justify their lust for violence via a third party agency we call government.
not the same because I didn't say the bible killed people, I said it influenced their thoughts. ideas are powerful, and reading things give people ideas.
unless you want to contest that point?

The Bible didn't make the decision to be interpreted in such a way that justifies that stuff. Tell me with a straight face that nobody would have had power lust and used it for evil without the Bible. You would be wrong. The Bible didn't cause people to do anything. It's the same kind of logic that says guns are responsible for murders.

People who kill and abuse power are going to do it with or without the Bible.

 

[paulbot24]

Oh Lord, here we go. Oops. Did I say Lord?

 

[torchbearer]

The Bible didn't make the decision to be interpreted in such a way that justifies that stuff. Tell me with a straight face that nobody would have had power lust and used it for evil without the Bible. You would be wrong. The Bible didn't cause people to do anything. It's the same kind of logic that says guns are responsible for murders.

ideas are not objects. the bible itself is an object in that is just a physical printed book(or online data on disk).
but the ideas expressed in some of the books of the bible can cause people to act in violent ways.
you aren't talking to some rube. stop trying to changed my argument of one of ideas to one of objects. it isn't going to work.

hitler didn't make people slaughter others, the ideas of socialist nationalism did.

 

[AGRP]

Ya'll being trolled.

 

[Origanalist]

Oh Lord, here we go. Oops. Did I say Lord?

 

[torchbearer]

Ya'll being trolled.

with sock puppets, but its fun to pretend.

 

[tod evans]

absolutely!!!!!!

What is the problem with some supposed 'liberty' lovers here????? Y'all sound like useless 20 somethings still living in mom's basement who never had a Dad to kick some personal responsibilty into your empty heads thru the medium of a work boot planted up your sorry asses

BOY, and I use the term in the most snide and derogatory sense possible, you have some learning as well as growing up to do.

I'll stop there.....

 

[youngbuck]

If it hasn't been already, it should be noted that he may not necessarily serve a life sentence:

Stovall would be eligible for parole in five years, but depending on his conduct in prison and other factors, that could be as long as 10 to 15 years.

I do realize that many so-called life-sentences work this way.

 

[FindLiberty]

with sock puppets, but its fun to pretend.

Not fun, just a waste of time.

 

[MelissaWV]

Sock puppet accounts aside, you guys do realize a lot of folks feel the way these select few posters do, right?

The problem is that they see drunk driving as inevitably harmful. Didn't hit someone after you had a beer and drove? Well that was just pure blind luck! (or Jesus taking the wheel, if you're a country singer )

The reality is that the result is what should be looked at. There are people arrested for "driving drunk" on their own property, so please let's not use THAT as a defining factor. There are people who simply get into a car, turn it on, and sit there to keep warm while waiting for a ride... and guess what? that is also a crime. There are people driving just fine who have the slight aroma of alcohol on them and become property of the police. Acknowledging all of this does not mean I want people to drive drunk. It means I want people who are driving horribly and dangerously to be caught and charged with being wreckless, rather than someone who's driving just fine but has been drinking to have the book thrown at them.

And no, this guy is not an angel. I would say that hitting someone's car and damaging property is not the act of an innocent. I would, though, think that the punishment should fit the crime. This does not. Not even close. Not even with the "he can get out in 5-10 years maybe" added on.

 

[paulbot24]

If I drive recklessly later today while chatting or texting and drive into a ditch I would be called reckless by my friends and family and probably get that "I should be more careful" look. If I drink a few beers and get pulled over this evening, people would start questioning my wife and my family would start asking some serious questions about my judgement, character, and morality. It is a ridiculous world.

 

[Anti Federalist]

absolutely!!!!!!

What is the problem with some supposed 'liberty' lovers here????? Y'all sound like useless 20 somethings still living in mom's basement who never had a Dad to kick some personal responsibilty into your empty heads thru the medium of a work boot planted up your sorry asses

Ugh...collectivist much?

I'm pushing 50, been working all my damn life, since 16.

Been supporting a family since I was 19.

Make, well, put it this way, in the top fifth quintile of incomes every year.

And I think this is heavy handed and Draconian.

I knew what all this hysteria was going to lead to: roadblocks, invasive blood tests on the side of the road, arrests and ridiculous prison terms.

I was called a nut and a "boy" then.

I, and millions of others, were called the same.

I thought this way when MADD first hit the scene in the early 80s.

We were right.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Sock puppet accounts aside, you guys do realize a lot of folks feel the way these select few posters do, right?

Yes, all too well aware of that.

The vast majority do.

Because people hate freedom, and always have.

What they enjoy is exercising petty power over their fellow man, they enjoy his misery, they enjoy his humiliation.

Thus the success of shows like "Cops". Or the "perp walk".

 

[Origanalist]

Yes, all too well aware of that.

The vast majority do.

Because people hate freedom, and always have.

What they enjoy is exercising petty power over their fellow man, they enjoy his misery, they enjoy his humiliation.

Thus the success of shows like "Cops". Or the "perp walk".

I hate that show with a passion, no way I can make it though 5 minutes.

 

[truelies]

Ugh...collectivist much?

....................

Not near as much as YOU are trying to excuse murderous personal behaviour just because it happens to be one of your personal vices. Liberty is NOT the same thing as License, Fool.

 

[truelies]

BOY, and I use the term in the most snide and derogatory sense possible, you have some learning as well as growing up to do.

I'll stop there.....

Great idea uncle, because y'all don't have jack to teach.........other than perhaps as a Bad Example and as an enemy of ordered Liberty.

 

[truelies]

...... in which case they would be the criminal, and you would be dead because you're very stupid.

Not in my State- the thuggie would be dead and the Citizen who planted him would be a hero.

 

[tod evans]

Great idea uncle, because y'all don't have jack to teach.........other than perhaps as a Bad Example and as an enemy of ordered Liberty.

Take your "ordered" idea of liberty and march it goose-step whence you came, I'll have no part of it.