Two Large Meals a Day Tops Six Mini-Meals for Weight Loss

[dannno]

Probably the best way to put it, Angela.

You're taking Angela's opinion on diet now? Why don't you go eat some Pizza Hut with her?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I think the Paleo thing must be like a religion, apparently.

Perhaps to some. For me, it's part of my lifestyle. If I don't diet this way (modified paleo-ish for my specific dietary needs), I don't usually function optimally. (I'm far more active than most) Diet is what "builds"/heals a body. Exercise "tears down" the muscle tissue and burns fat.

 

[amy31416]

I think the Paleo thing must be like a religion, apparently.

With the exception that it works.

 

[dannno]

Probably the best way to put it, Angela.

What is is about the paleo diet you don't get? It's a very simple diet to understand, grains have tons of omega 6 which cause inflammation which causes heart attacks and cancer. That's why people who eat a lot of meat in the standard american diet get heart attacks and cancer, because they are eating animals that eat nothing but grains. Grass-fed, wild and pastured animals have a better ratio of omega 3 - omega 6 fats and so if you eat those, you won't get heart disease, cancer and on top of that any condition that occurs as a result of inflammation, like allergies and asthma will improve.. My allergies and asthma have improved dramatically since I went paleo, you couldn't pay me to go back to eating a bunch of grains and carbs.

Then the other main point about paleo is reducing carbs, which is very important because eating carbs regularly WILL, over time, increase your insulin resistance which will eventually lead to type 2 diabetes. In the short term it will keep your insulin levels from spiking and will give you more consistent levels of energy and keep your metabolism going fast.

So this isn't a religion like where you pray to an invisible God, I've actually seen the results from the diet and it's really unfortunate that you had conversations with the wrong people about this diet who couldn't explain it to you.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

What is is about the paleo diet you don't get? It's a very simple diet to understand, grains have tons of omega 6 which cause inflammation which causes heart attacks and cancer. That's why people who eat a lot of meat in the standard american diet get heart attacks and cancer, because they are eating animals that eat nothing but grains. Grass-fed, wild and pastured animals have a better ratio of omega 3 - omega 6 fats and so if you eat those, you won't get heart disease, cancer and on top of that any condition that occurs as a result of inflammation, like allergies and asthma will improve.. My allergies and asthma have improved dramatically since I went paleo, you couldn't pay me to go back to eating a bunch of grains and carbs.

Then the other main point about paleo is reducing carbs, which is very important because eating carbs regularly WILL, over time, increase your insulin resistance which will eventually lead to type 2 diabetes. In the short term it will keep your insulin levels from spiking and will give you more consistent levels of energy and keep your metabolism going fast.

So this isn't a religion like where you pray to an invisible God, I've actually seen the results from the diet and it's really unfortunate that you had conversations with the wrong people about this diet who couldn't explain it to you.

Correction-net carbs. First, some carbs are good-like fruits and veggies. Second, sufficient dietary fiber generally neutralizes the insulin-spike caused by carbs. (all things in moderation, except veggies...veggies are good to gorge on. )

Total carbs-fiber=net carbs.

 

[sratiug]

What is is about the paleo diet you don't get? It's a very simple diet to understand, grains have tons of omega 6 which cause inflammation which causes heart attacks and cancer. That's why people who eat a lot of meat in the standard american diet get heart attacks and cancer, because they are eating animals that eat nothing but grains. Grass-fed, wild and pastured animals have a better ratio of omega 3 - omega 6 fats and so if you eat those, you won't get heart disease, cancer and on top of that any condition that occurs as a result of inflammation, like allergies and asthma will improve.. My allergies and asthma have improved dramatically since I went paleo, you couldn't pay me to go back to eating a bunch of grains and carbs.

Then the other main point about paleo is reducing carbs, which is very important because eating carbs regularly WILL, over time, increase your insulin resistance which will eventually lead to type 2 diabetes. In the short term it will keep your insulin levels from spiking and will give you more consistent levels of energy and keep your metabolism going fast.

So this isn't a religion like where you pray to an invisible God, I've actually seen the results from the diet and it's really unfortunate that you had conversations with the wrong people about this diet who couldn't explain it to you.

The body requires more parent omega 6 than parent omega 3, and can make all derivatives as needed from the parent oils linoleic acid (6) and alpha-linolenic acid (3). The heart attacks and cancer are caused by the carbohydrate intake itself which thickens and slows the blood and causes glycolization of proteins, and also the hydrogenation and preservatives contaminating the vegetable oils. The body must use the damaged oils if it has no good oils.

Note that most cancers are carcinomas, which are cancers of the epithelial cells which naturally contain predominantly omega 6 oils. Without a supply of good linoleic acid oxygen transfer is low which causes cancer.

Chronic dehydration, to which carb diets contribute, is a major factor in hypertension, heart disease, cancer, allergies and asthma.

 

[Acala]

I think the Paleo thing must be like a religion, apparently.

Well then say hallelujah and pass the grass-fed beef. I'm 56 years old and I am fitter, healthier, and have more vitality than when I was twenty. I KNOW why. But I'm not selling anything. It doesn't matter to me if people ignore my advice. I offer it up to my fellow travelers. Do with it as you wish.

 

[sratiug]

Correction-net carbs. First, some carbs are good-like fruits and veggies. Second, sufficient dietary fiber generally neutralizes the insulin-spike caused by carbs. (all things in moderation, except veggies...veggies are good to gorge on. )

Total carbs-fiber=net carbs.

This is simply not true. Experimental results show that complex carbs only slow insulin release by 15 minutes compared to starches and sugar. Although the peak insulin release will be very slightly and insignificantly lowered, the resting blood sugar post meal actually remains higher for a [edited for correction] low glycemic meal than for a high glycemic meal. That is why the diabetes association has rescinded their advice to eat low glycemic and admitted that only total carb intake matters.

The textbook of medical physiology states that fiber (cellulose), whether soluble or insoluble cannot be considered food for humans as their are no enzymes in humans capable of breaking cellulose bonds. Studies show fiber increases colon cancer and depletes the body of minerals thus causing osteoporosis.

 

[donnay]

The body requires more parent omega 6 than parent omega 3, and can make all derivatives as needed from the parent oils linoleic acid (6) and alpha-linolenic acid (3). The heart attacks and cancer are caused by the carbohydrate intake itself which thickens and slows the blood and causes glycolization of proteins, and also the hydrogenation and preservatives contaminating the vegetable oils. The body must use the damaged oils if it has no good oils.

Note that most cancers are carcinomas, which are cancers of the epithelial cells which naturally contain predominantly omega 6 oils. Without a supply of good linoleic acid oxygen transfer is low which causes cancer.

Chronic dehydration, to which carb diets contribute, is a major factor in hypertension, heart disease, cancer, allergies and asthma.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sratiug again."

 

[acptulsa]

That is why the diabetes association has rescinded their advice...

I don't know why anyone listens to any of them.

All I know is 'they' are saying exactly the opposite of what they said as a kid, when they were as hot to 'disprove' what they called 'old wives' tales', as they are today to 'disprove' what they 'proved' back then. And yet I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them now. They say the exact opposite things then that they say now, and I don't believe either...

I ought to demonstrate how they can say two completely different things, and it can all somehow work to Monsanto's benefit. But I prefer to ignore them completely.

 

[amonasro]

I've eaten 1-2 large meals a day for nearly a year now. I eat whatever I feel like (with the exception of junk food) and watch my waistline slowy shrink. If I want a hamburger and fries, I make it my main meal. It's amazing when you lose 10 pounds, then realize how little that is in the grand scheme of flab, and you have 10 to go. Then 10 more. Want a six pack? Ten more

Humans are well designed by nature to burn fat. I still don't know why people freak out when I tell them I generally don't eat before 2 o'clock every day. No wonder we're a country of fatties that we feel we need to stuff our pie holes every 3 hours. Even better for the stubborn fat is to take a walk or run while fasted. You should see the reactions I get to that. Contrary to popular belief, you won't collapse and die if you exercise on an empty stomach. I quite enjoy it and it melts fat away. Sure your stomach compains loudly for awhile, but once your body realizes that it's not going to get food, it adapts.

Im happy to say I can now wear size 33 jeans without the male muffin top. Slim fit too!

 

[angelatc]

Yes, it is sort of like a religion. People ate a certain way for millions of years, it was like a tradition sort of like religion is, our bodies were actually evolved to eat that way... Then in the last 10,000 years something happened.. we slowly began to lose our way as we depended more and more on grains - and then industry changed the grains we ate even more at the expense of our health and made harvesting grains even easier and exacerbated the problem many fold. Then we started feeding the animals we ate nothing but grains!! Now pretty much everybody dies from heart disease and cancer or gets diabetes, conditions that were very rare or didn't even exist before grains. If we went back to our 'religion', or our traditional way of eating, we would be much better off.. Though it is very hard to do in our society because the government subsidizes grains so they are pretty much free and the availability of healthy food is very low.

You forgot "Amen."


It's a wonderful theory, but I'm just not convinced that meat was the almost sole focus of our diet until we discovered grains.

 

[angelatc]

I don't know why anyone listens to any of them.

All I know is 'they' are saying exactly the opposite of what they said as a kid, when they were as hot to 'disprove' what they called 'old wives' tales', as they are today to 'disprove' what they 'proved' back then. And yet I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them now. They say the exact opposite things then that they say now, and I don't believe either...

I ought to demonstrate how they can say two completely different things, and it can all somehow work to Monsanto's benefit. But I prefer to ignore them completely.

When I was a kid, the big thing was to avoid carbs and eat proteins. Then the pendulum swung and the fat in meat (and other places) became the devil. Now the pendulum swung back, and carbs are evil again.

Yawn.

 

[angelatc]

With the exception that it works.

Ah, but I've also seen religion work for of people.

 

[Acala]

"meat was the almost sole focus of our diet until we discovered grains.

No paleo or primal person who has a clue ever said this.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

This is simply not true. Experimental results show that complex carbs only slow insulin release by 15 minutes compared to starches and sugar. Although the peak insulin release will be very slightly and insignificantly lowered, the resting blood sugar post meal actually remains higher for a high glycemic meal than for a low glycemic meal. That is why the diabetes association has rescinded their advice to eat low glycemic and admitted that only total carb intake matters.

The textbook of medical physiology states that fiber (cellulose), whether soluble or insoluble cannot be considered food for humans as their are no enzymes in humans capable of breaking cellulose bonds. Studies show fiber increases colon cancer and depletes the body of minerals thus causing osteoporosis.

da fuq? What studies show that?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

When I was a kid, the big thing was to avoid carbs and eat proteins. Then the pendulum swung and the fat in meat (and other places) became the devil. Now the pendulum swung back, and carbs are evil again.

Yawn.

Not exactly. Not all carbs are created equal. The carbs you get from fruits/green vegetables generally aren't bad for you. The science behind this was around when you were a kid, and a number of athletes used it-it just hadn't been popularized yet. And there wasn't a big obesity/type II diabetes problem back then, either, for a number of reasons.

 

[opal]

without quoting.. but still quoting.. all carbs are not created equally.

fruits and veggies are carbs
wonder bread (I wonder how that got called bread.. even the ducks won't eat it) is carbs

not the same

legumes have carbs.. depending on the diet, sometimes they count as a carb.. sometimes as a protein
duncan doughnuts are carbs

seriously not the same

whomever coined the phrase *complex carbohydrates* ought to be smacked.. just confuses the issue

 

[opal]

oh.. and I'm completely convinced that there's another type of diabetes that has not been named or discovered.. here's my reason
many diabetics - when they don't consume things regularly have sugar crashes) A couple years back we . yep.. both of us, got a 4 day *spew from both ends- flu big fun
anyway.. without food of any kind.. just fluids for him (pediolite mostly) his sugars were normal! not low.. not high.. normal..
and and.. if he just eats meat, his sugar goes up.. high.. I know.. grain fed critters.. they are what they eat and of course his doctors won't listen to the wife *eye roll*
I've pulled him off all statins - he was on 4 of them for gawd sakes and guess what.. his blood pressure had no change.. DUH
two of the doctors freaked.. the other one.. nice Egyptian guy.. said... if his BP is normal, there's no need for him to start taking them again
bigger DUH

 

[amy31416]

Ah, but I've also seen religion work for of people.

I've never seen it fix health problems, but I suppose it's possible in the form of meditation or something.