Two Large Meals a Day Tops Six Mini-Meals for Weight Loss

[Acala]

look up "intermittent fasting"


keeps me in amazing shape.

I fast as well. But my fast days have to come after recovery periods from weight training so I am usually limited to one day a week.

 

[Acala]

Just my experience with paleo people.

My experience with libertarians is that they are argumentative know-it-alls. But they are still right!

 

[Acala]

the oxidative stress from digesting food constantly has quite a profound effect on aging.

And how old of a fellow are you, if I may ask?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

LOL - tell us how you really feel....

I have no interest in paleo either. People who are on it seem to get the same weird "gaunt" look that the lapband people get.

But I think it's great that so many people have found something that works for them. I just know it would not work for me. Like Julie Borowski, I"m never giving up mac and cheese. Not going to happen. If I have to die 3 days, months or years earlier - so be it.

How many have you seen? My diet is basically paleo, and I've gained weight since I started. (but gaining is my goal, so I eat more protein and veggies than most...I also built my exercise plan accordingly )

ETA: have you seen Lew lately? He's been on the paleo plan for quite some time now and doesn't look "gaunt" to me.

 

[angelatc]

How many have you seen? My diet is basically paleo, and I've gained weight since I started. (but gaining is my goal, so I eat more protein and veggies than most...I also built my exercise plan accordingly )

ETA: have you seen Lew lately? He's been on the paleo plan for quite some time now and doesn't look "gaunt" to me.

No, but the Judge is one of the people I was thinking of.

 

[dannno]

Paleo is too rigid and often promoted by people that I find unintelligent. Health science is like 80% of my life and free time and I am honestly tired of hearing from paleo people who don't know shit about science or medicine telling me that they know more about health than I.. And I'm not lumping you in there danno.. Just my experience with paleo people.

Wow, I mean, there are a few paleo people who are only paleo because they have been carnivores their whole life and are kind of maybe from the 'meathead' variety but for the most part I've not had that experience. Where have you talked to paleo people besides this site? This is one of the few places I've had discussions on paleo, I don't think you'd be talking down about paleo people on this forum like that? A lot of the more intelligent people on this forum are primal/paleo oriented so you should be careful.

Mark Scisson was getting a lot of attention on here the last few years, he is into a less rigid form of paleo called Primal Blueprint. He will say you can eat raw dairy if it works with your system, and it is ok to have a little rice sometimes (i.e. sushi). The guy is VERY GOOD on health science, extremely intelligent. He backs up his opinions with some of the most hardcore health science I've ever seen, most of the time. He also says try to eat paleo/primal at least 80% of the time, so there is not much rigidity there. I still don't like the vibe that some paleo people put off, including Mark to some extent, acting like vegetarians are the polar enemy rather than the standard american diet.. I see paleo/primal as an advanced form of vegetarianism, it is better for your health and better for the environment. Standard American Diet is on the bottom of the ladder imo.

When I was on the Standard American Diet before I was veg, I was 65 lbs. overweight.. that's because I was loading up on carbs and eating a good amount of dietary fat on top of that.

As far as being rigid, I don't have a rigid diet at all, I will eat anything including things that are not paleo/primal. So it's more like a philosophy. My diet is much less rigid now than it was when I was primarily vegetarian. But when I prepare my own meals at home, like for breakfast, I will have steak, bacon and eggs or an egg burger or something along those lines. Huge breakfast, tons of good healthy fats, I do feel better than when I was veg, I do have more energy and it is easier to maintain my weight. I don't get tired in the afternoon, my insulin levels and insulin resistance have vastly improved.

There really is something to eating good healthy fats and really laying off the carbs, except for organic fresh fruit and veggies. I'm pretty sure if I didn't change my diet when I was 19, I would have had type 2 diabetes by age 25 from the standard american diet and if I didn't go from veg to primal last year I probably would have gotten type 2 diabetes in the next 5 to 10 years from my veg diet.. I can tell when my insulin resistance starts to slip I think, and that is one of the reasons I decided to try paleo in the first place.

You know what grains are good for? They are good for when you are starving or if you are really poor, they are cheap and store great, keep them in your food storage. Same with legumes. They are both ok on occasion, if your body can handle them, preferably in whole grain form. But they really aren't optimal or very good for longterm use for your health because they will screw with your insulin resistance after time.

I think somewhere in the Bible or maybe it is LDS Doctrine, it says something about wheat being the 'staff of life'. Well, what is a 'staff' for? It's to help keep you up walking and balanced when you're old or weak. It's like a crutch. You don't use a staff to hunt, you use a spear or an arrow. You use a staff when you're traveling long distances. So I see grains as a good backup. We should know about them, know how to cook and handle them, know how our bodies handle them, etc, in case of an emergency, but it should not be the entire basis of our diet imo.

 

[dannno]

How many have you seen? My diet is basically paleo, and I've gained weight since I started. (but gaining is my goal, so I eat more protein and veggies than most...I also built my exercise plan accordingly )

ETA: have you seen Lew lately? He's been on the paleo plan for quite some time now and doesn't look "gaunt" to me.

The thing about paleo is if you really aren't eating carbs and you are completely sedentary, you can get VERY VERY skinny... CONVERSELY, it doesn't take very much effort at all to put on good lean muscle. Much less effort than other diets, imo. My roommate was pretty sedentary and actually gained weight when he became paleo, but it was all muscle, and he didn't even work out.. Just whatever he did around the house, occasional hike or moving things..

 

[dannno]

No, but the Judge is one of the people I was thinking of.

The Judge looks gaunt to you?? Thin bony and sickly looking?? I'm pretty sure he's just losing weight and maybe doesn't have the tightest skin... I'm sure his health and energy levels have vastly improved.

 

[sratiug]

Wow...but what about diabetics whose sugars levels surge from stress? Not eating on a schedule can cause stress and this stress will elevate their sugar levels--which in turn does damage to organs. This BMI crap really riles me up. There has been studies proving that grazing (throughout the day) on healthier more nutritionally enriched food works well for diabetics. Exercise is also the key to regulate diabetes.

Mineral replacement like-- chromium and vanadium are critical for people want to control diabetes and/or reverse it.

There is never a one-size-fits-all method, however, the above information has been successfully proven to work to help control diabetes and/or reverse diabetes. The individual needs to know what works for them.

Diabetics have different needs than healthy people. For a healthy person, your pancreas stores insulin between meals. The stored insulin is released immediately after a carbohydrate meal. Then the pancreas begins to produce and release more insulin. It takes 3 hours for insulin to peak after eating carbohydrates. While insulin levels are high you are in fat storage mode converting sugar into fat as fast as possible and burning very little stored fat. The longer you wait between carbohydrate meals the longer the pancreas has to rest and rebuild its insulin stores for the next round.

The body is designed to produce the vast majority of its energy from fat. There can only be about 1 teaspoon of sugar in your blood (all carbs except fiber, which is indigestable, are converted to sugar) at any time. The body is only about 1 per cent carbohydrate and carbohydrate stores will provide less than one day's worth of energy.

While diabetics may need to eat meals containing carbs throughout the day, for healthy people that will just cause diabetes.

 

[Acala]

Wow, I mean, there are a few paleo people who are only paleo because they have been carnivores their whole life and are kind of maybe from the 'meathead' variety but for the most part I've not had that experience. Where have you talked to paleo people besides this site? This is one of the few places I've had discussions on paleo, I don't think you'd be talking down about paleo people on this forum like that? A lot of the more intelligent people on this forum are primal/paleo oriented so you should be careful.

Mark Scisson was getting a lot of attention on here the last few years, he is into a less rigid form of paleo called Primal Blueprint. He will say you can eat raw dairy if it works with your system, and it is ok to have a little rice sometimes (i.e. sushi). The guy is VERY GOOD on health science, extremely intelligent. He backs up his opinions with some of the most hardcore health science I've ever seen, most of the time. He also says try to eat paleo/primal at least 80% of the time, so there is not much rigidity there. I still don't like the vibe that some paleo people put off, including Mark to some extent, acting like vegetarians are the polar enemy rather than the standard american diet.. I see paleo/primal as an advanced form of vegetarianism, it is better for your health and better for the environment. Standard American Diet is on the bottom of the ladder imo.

When I was on the Standard American Diet before I was veg, I was 65 lbs. overweight.. that's because I was loading up on carbs and eating a good amount of dietary fat on top of that.

As far as being rigid, I don't have a rigid diet at all, I will eat anything including things that are not paleo/primal. So it's more like a philosophy. My diet is much less rigid now than it was when I was primarily vegetarian. But when I prepare my own meals at home, like for breakfast, I will have steak, bacon and eggs or an egg burger or something along those lines. Huge breakfast, tons of good healthy fats, I do feel better than when I was veg, I do have more energy and it is easier to maintain my weight. I don't get tired in the afternoon, my insulin levels and insulin resistance have vastly improved.

There really is something to eating good healthy fats and really laying off the carbs, except for organic fresh fruit and veggies. I'm pretty sure if I didn't change my diet when I was 19, I would have had type 2 diabetes by age 25 from the standard american diet and if I didn't go from veg to primal last year I probably would have gotten type 2 diabetes in the next 5 to 10 years from my veg diet.. I can tell when my insulin resistance starts to slip I think, and that is one of the reasons I decided to try paleo in the first place.

You know what grains are good for? They are good for when you are starving or if you are really poor, they are cheap and store great, keep them in your food storage. Same with legumes. They are both ok on occasion, if your body can handle them, preferably in whole grain form. But they really aren't optimal or very good for longterm use for your health because they will screw with your insulin resistance after time.

I think somewhere in the Bible or maybe it is LDS Doctrine, it says something about wheat being the 'staff of life'. Well, what is a 'staff' for? It's to help keep you up walking and balanced when you're old or weak. It's like a crutch. You don't use a staff to hunt, you use a spear or an arrow. You use a staff when you're traveling long distances. So I see grains as a good backup. We should know about them, know how to cook and handle them, know how our bodies handle them, etc, in case of an emergency, but it should not be the entire basis of our diet imo.

Mark Sisson is GAUNT:

 

[KCIndy]

Eating two large meals a day yielded more weight loss than consuming six mini-meals with the same number of calories, according to a study that challenges the common wisdom on appetite control.

I got confused and ended up eating six large meals a day. I never was good at following directions!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Meh, the hell with it all:

 

[Acala]

I have no interest in paleo either. People who are on it seem to get the same weird "gaunt" look that the lapband people get.

Everyone looks RELATIVELY gaunt when you are used to them being seriously overweight (like the judge) and then they drop down to a healthy weight. Lean is healthy. There is really no dispute about it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Meh, the hell with it all:

 

[opal]

We have recently started the juicing thing to control hubby's sugar and hopefully reduce me to presentable again. Instead of a big breakfast.. there's a big juice, that if it were the whole foods, would be too much to consume - not to mention the intestinal disturbances. We have stopped big meals all together opting instead for a healthy late breakfast.. moderate lunch and small supper with more juice.
Say what you will about juicing and diabetics but we got his sugar numbers from in the 400's down to under 150 in 4 days - and except for a 3 day migrane, they've stayed there.

 

[angelatc]

I think the Paleo thing must be like a religion, apparently.

 

[dannno]

We have recently started the juicing thing to control hubby's sugar and hopefully reduce me to presentable again. Instead of a big breakfast.. there's a big juice, that if it were the whole foods, would be too much to consume - not to mention the intestinal disturbances. We have stopped big meals all together opting instead for a healthy late breakfast.. moderate lunch and small supper with more juice.
Say what you will about juicing and diabetics but we got his sugar numbers from in the 400's down to under 150 in 4 days - and except for a 3 day migrane, they've stayed there.

I'm not surprised - something about RAW FRESH MADE juice, organic fruit and veggies if possible, seems to not have the same effect as other sugars and starches on the blood sugar.

 

[Kotin]

Probably the best way to put it, Angela.

 

[dannno]

I think the Paleo thing must be like a religion, apparently.

Yes, it is sort of like a religion. People ate a certain way for millions of years, it was like a tradition sort of like religion is, our bodies were actually evolved to eat that way... Then in the last 10,000 years something happened.. we slowly began to lose our way as we depended more and more on grains - and then industry changed the grains we ate even more at the expense of our health and made harvesting grains even easier and exacerbated the problem many fold. Then we started feeding the animals we ate nothing but grains!! Now pretty much everybody dies from heart disease and cancer or gets diabetes, conditions that were very rare or didn't even exist before grains. If we went back to our 'religion', or our traditional way of eating, we would be much better off.. Though it is very hard to do in our society because the government subsidizes grains so they are pretty much free and the availability of healthy food is very low.

 

[donnay]

Meh, the hell with it all:

*BIG SIGH*