Turkey agrees to pause attacks in northern Syria for five days as Kurds retreat

[vita3]

Gotcha. Your tough, but consistently one of my favorites here.

 

[Swordsmyth]

But we don't know that. He could have had a meeting with the Kurds to plead for time for the Kurds to evacuate like they just did and if they stay on, everybody would know that he tried.

I am going to tell now they way it looks, it seems like Trump abandoned her allies without even trying and that just looks bad

They could have retreated along with us.
The Kurds are treacherous and deserve nothing from us.
And Trump set them up to have to deal with Assad on Assad's terms which is correct.
Doing what you suggested also would have taken Time Turkey wasn't willing to take and failed to make it clear to the Kurds that we aren't going to spend American blood and treasure protecting them anymore.

 

[juleswin]

They could have retreated along with us.
The Kurds are treacherous and deserve nothing from us.
And Trump set them up to have to deal with Assad on Assad's terms which is correct.
Doing what you suggested also would have taken Time Turkey wasn't willing to take and failed to make it clear to the Kurds that we aren't going to spend American blood and treasure protecting them anymore.

First of all, the Kurds probably needs more time to evacuate than 50 mobile US forces.

Secondly, yoh maybe right in your assessment but it just looks bad. It looks like Trump abandoned our allies to die on the field. You know I believe the Kurds are bad bad guys but it's not something you want to be know for. Trump dropped the ball on this one.

 

[pcosmar]

The policy is to get out and stay out, that includes making the politicians who want us to save the Kurds happy without staying or sending more troops.

Really not about "saving the Kurds",, though we have been manipulating and using them again.

It is about a NATO backed invasion of a Sovereign Country ,, for no good reason than to retrieve assets from Prisons in Syria.

one backed by Trump until it was not backed by Trump..

and what is the purpose?

A trumped up Revolution and Foreign Mercenaries Failed to remove Assad
US trained and equipped ISIS failed to remove Assad.
Saudi originated Gas attacks shipped through Turkey failed to remove Assad.

I think a larger war is the intention. The Kurds have been dealing with Turks for a hundred years.

 

[pcosmar]

make it clear to the Kurds that we aren't going to spend American blood and treasure protecting them anymore.

You are truly deluded..

We were using them ..not protecting them.

We were in the way... We should not have been there...
Kurds did not have a problem till the US created one.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You are truly deluded..

We were using them ..not protecting them.

We were in the way... We should not have been there...
Kurds did not have a problem till the US created one.

The Kurds have always had a Turkey problem.
And you are the one who is complaining about us leaving.

 

[pcosmar]

The Kurds have always had a Turkey problem.
And you are the one who is complaining about us leaving.

Not complaining..
YOU keep posting the LIE that we are leaving..

I am simply correcting your Fase information..

or in Govt. Spook Terminology..

DISINFORMATION.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Not complaining..
YOU keep posting the LIE that we are leaving..

I am simply correcting your Fase information..

or in Govt. Spook Terminology..

DISINFORMATION.

No, we are leaving.
And you keep posting things trying to say the Kurds are innocent victims that we are leaving to be slaughtered by the Turks even though it isn't true, they aren't innocent and Assad and Russia are preventing any slaughter as is Trump through this ceasefire he pressured Turkey into.

 

[Anti Federalist]

There is nothing but good news coming out of there, why all the hate?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Thank you Turkey!

Thank you Prez Erdogan for working with MAGA!!!

 

[pcosmar]

No, we are leaving.
And you keep posting things trying to say the Kurds are innocent victims that we are leaving to be slaughtered by the Turks even though it isn't true, they aren't innocent and Assad and Russia are preventing any slaughter as is Trump through this ceasefire he pressured Turkey into.

Yeah yeah yeah,, I keep hearing it..

Heard that about Afghanistan too... and Iraq and how long have we been in Korea.

Just stop with the stupid Trump Humping,, just go give him a Blowjob and git it over with.

 

[TheCount]

No, we are leaving.

Still no.

 

[Origanalist]

Let me just preface this post by saying that I support unconditional complete withdrawal of all US forces in Syria if that is what it takes to pull out. But this could have easily been negotiated before the pullout. I know Rand may not consider Syrian Kurds to be allies that we owe anything (even though they were the main Kurdish forces fighting ISIS with the US) but we did help us fight ISIS and steal valuable Syrian oil fields. I think we own then a sit down meeting to negotiate their evacuation.


This is why it hurts me so much watch Rand unconditionally defend Trump just for pulling back the troops from Northern Syria. It has now been proven that the Turks would have listened to us had we said something which we should have done for a group who assisted the US.

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For all I care, kill them all, the Kurds are the worst kind of traitors anywhere in the world. They take advantage of any invasion to look out for themselves. Illegal US invasion in Iraq, they side with the US, the same in Syria etc etc.

The Kurds sided with the Iranian govt during the war with Iraq, the traitorous nature of the kurds always gets them into undermining the state they live in inorder to steal land for their ethnostate.

So it sucks they were gassed in 89 but that is the risk you take for siding with the enemy and going against the state.

And why should the current Kurds be punished for the crimes of their forefathers? I am not calling for that. The current Kurds in Syria and Iraq have taken advantage of the US attack on the country to take territory for themselves. This is an ongoing crisis and one that will never go away until they create their ethnostate. I will promise you that a new set of Kurds will try again the next time an invader comes knocking. You take care of this problem now and it's less enemy you get to fight in the next war. I hate to be like this but this is reality. The Kurds that don't want to be driven away can join the rest of the general Syrian community

Subjugated them in what way? You live in statist country, act accordingly. If you as a nomadic tribe decides to shyte in the face of a country that welcomed you to their home, then don't be shocked at their readiness to strike back.

The same Kurds are shutting down Arab school, collecting taxes and ruling over the Arabs that live in the area where they occupy without their consent.

I hate to say it but the solution for the Kurdish problem would be some kind of expulsion. This group cannot be trusted.

Why the sudden concern for the Kurd's Jules?

 

[juleswin]

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Why the sudden concern for the Kurd's Jules?

Just because I personally support the expulsion of the rebelling(the assimilated ones can stay)0 Kurds out of Syria and Iraq doesn't mean I want Rand to take that position. That would totally alienate him for the normies who he needs to win election. Abandoning the people who the public and you(Rand believes that they were the best fighting force against ISIS which is a lie) believe helped you defeat ISIS looks bad on Trump and by extension also looks bad on Rand.

I do not care for the marxist, communist, traitorous, thieving Kurds but I know that the US would sooner adopt a gold standard before adopting my policy on the Kurds

 

[Origanalist]

Just because I personally support the expulsion of the rebelling(the assimilated ones can stay)0 Kurds out of Syria and Iraq doesn't mean I want Rand to take that position. That would totally alienate him for the normies who he needs to win election. Abandoning the people who the public and you(Rand believes that they were the best fighting force against ISIS which is a lie) believe helped you defeat ISIS looks bad on Trump and by extension also looks bad on Rand.

I do not care for the marxist, communist, traitorous, thieving Kurds but I know that the US would sooner adopt a gold standard before adopting my policy on the Kurds

I completely disagree, the only people squawking about it are the braindead CNN ans MSNBC indoctrinated idiots and the shills for the MIC. It only looks bad to the willfully ignorant.

 

[tebowlives]

Let me just preface this post by saying that I support unconditional complete withdrawal of all US forces in Syria if that is what it takes to pull out. But this could have easily been negotiated before the pullout. I know Rand may not consider Syrian Kurds to be allies that we owe anything (even though they were the main Kurdish forces fighting ISIS with the US) but we did help us fight ISIS and steal valuable Syrian oil fields. I think we own then a sit down meeting to negotiate their evacuation.

This is why it hurts me so much watch Rand unconditionally defend Trump just for pulling back the troops from Northern Syria. It has now been proven that the Turks would have listened to us had we said something which we should have done for a group who assisted the US.

Rand has said often that the Kurds are our allies as well as Turkey.

 

[shakey1]

Rand has said often that the Kurds are our allies as well as Turkey.

As good a reason not to solve this problem militarily.

 

[eleganz]

Let me just preface this post by saying that I support unconditional complete withdrawal of all US forces in Syria if that is what it takes to pull out. But this could have easily been negotiated before the pullout. I know Rand may not consider Syrian Kurds to be allies that we owe anything (even though they were the main Kurdish forces fighting ISIS with the US) but we did help us fight ISIS and steal valuable Syrian oil fields. I think we own then a sit down meeting to negotiate their evacuation.

This is why it hurts me so much watch Rand unconditionally defend Trump just for pulling back the troops from Northern Syria. It has now been proven that the Turks would have listened to us had we said something which we should have done for a group who assisted the US.

Yup you're essentially repeating the same talking points all of the NEOCON and MEDIA have been using to attack Trump.

War is bad...but what about the KURDS?? Will somebody please protect the KURDS?

Trump Derangement Syndrome is an amazing condition.


Literally you:
"I'm 100% anti-war, except because Trump is POTUS, I'm going to finagle my anti-war position to have it both ways"

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Is Pence trying to exert himself as President of foreign policy already and going against President Trump's policy direction?

Trump says Turkish offensive in Syria is 'not our problem'



Two and two don't add up. He appeared to be pretty loyal VP for the most part so far ( except for one or two occasions like hollywood tape incidence).

 

[dannno]

I'm trying to understand the propaganda.

Yesterday we had nothing to do with it.

Today we are a signatory to a ceasefire that we supposedly brokered.


What, exactly, is US policy on Syria? Is there one?

The "propaganda" is talking = good, killing = bad.

It's the same dirty old propaganda people like Ron Paul espouse.