Tucker Carlson & Truthers

[HaddEnuff]

This is a lie. We heard them loud and clear. Maybe you weren't sitting near them, but they were protesting and yelling "911 was an inside job" while shaking their fists and scaring away all the potential liberty supporters.

If uncomfortable moments are going to break up this movement, we have no chance.

 

[RockEnds]

This is a lie. We heard them loud and clear. Maybe you weren't sitting near them, but they were protesting and yelling "911 was an inside job" while shaking their fists and scaring away all the potential liberty supporters.

The only time I saw anything close to people being scared was when the entire crowd was yelling, "End the Fed". Some of the folks in the press box looked just a little uncomfortable.

 

[HaddEnuff]

You have an issue with the way 9/11 investigations were conducted? Petition the government and take your legal recourse. But, don't ever, EVER try to push it through with the Doctor's name tagged to it. That's what nearly ALL of you truthers are doing and it's AWFUL.

As far as I've seen, YOU are the only one doing that.
To say "truthers" are using Ron Paul to "push through" their movement is beyond absurd.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

As far as I've seen, YOU are the only one doing that.
To say "truthers" are using Ron Paul to "push through" their movement is beyond absurd.

No it's not, because you guys are. If you have an issue take it up with the government....9/11 truth has never been plank on the platform we supported and Ron isn't your vehicle for that message.

 

[reduen]

I will say this once again and for the very last time. (In my opinion..)

"Truthers" have got to be the biggest cowards on the face of this earth.

You people really believe that our own government intentionally killed thousands of its own innocent citizens and all you cowards can do is stand around and yell about it?

Ron Paul does not believe that our government perpetrated 9/11! He has said this time and time again!!

Not only are you people insane cowards but you are driving sane people away from this movement!

I did not go to the rally specifically because I do not want to be associated with you.

I can handle those who just want to make pot leagle so they can get stoned, even Dr. Paul thinks pot should be leagle but you people take the cake.....

 

[SeanEdwards]

I will say this once again and for the very last time. (In my opinion..)

"Truthers" have got to be the biggest cowards on the face of this earth.

You people really believe that our own government intentionally killed thousands of its own innocent citizens and all you cowards can do is stand around and yell about it?

I have the same reaction. If I was a "true-believer" in the Alex Jones version of reality, I think I'd feel obligated to take up arms against the government, not simply shout slogans in a free-speech zone.

 

[dannno]

"We'll use Ron to push 911 conspiracies."

You really think that, don't you?

 

[rockandrollsouls]

You really think that, don't you?

That's what you guys do. Plenty of other forms of action you can take if you truly believe it, but instead you place an unnecessary burden on the Doctor's shoulders.

Truthers are cowards and hypocrites for the reasons stated above, but even more so because they hide behind a man of principle and integrity that's far too nice to say "Get the F off me!"

 

[dannno]

That's what you guys do. Plenty of other forms of action you can take if you truly believe it, but instead you place an unnecessary burden on the Doctor's shoulders.

Truthers are cowards and hypocrites for the reasons stated above, but even more so because they hide behind a man of principle and integrity that's far too nice to say "Get the F off me!"

I completely disagree with your reasoning. Ron could have easily distanced himself from 9/11 truthers without saying "Get the F off me". Instead he goes on their shows, welcomes them into the movement to promote liberty and and even invited 2 to speak at the CFL rally. You are projecting your own feelings about truthers onto Ron Paul, and that is wrong.




....what other forms of "action" would you recommend, btw?

 

[richardfortherepublic]

....what other forms of "action" would you recommend, btw?

Joining We Are Change and doing what you want to get your message out without associating it with Ron Paul.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I completely disagree with your reasoning. Ron could have easily distanced himself from 9/11 truthers without saying "Get the F off me". Instead he goes on their shows, welcomes them into the movement to promote liberty and and even invited 2 to speak at the CFL rally. You are projecting your own feelings about truthers onto Ron Paul, and that is wrong.

Paul also appears on Fox news and appeals to Sean Hannity's viewers to join the movement to promote liberty. That doesn't make him a fascist, and talking to Alex Jones doesn't make him a truther either.

 

[dannno]

Paul also appears on Fox news and appeals to Sean Hannity's viewers to join the movement to promote liberty. That doesn't make him a fascist, and talking to Alex Jones doesn't make him a truther either.

I never said he was a truther (in this thread ), I only said he welcomes them into the movement.

Fox is a mainstream news entity. Do you think McCain or Obama would appear on Alex Jones' show? Why would they if it is such a small, specialized audience? Ron Paul goes on their because he thinks he will be able to reach his supporters that way. He goes onto Fox News so that he can be heard within by the mainstream public. They are completely different types of appearances with completely different goals.


And thanks for ignoring the second part.

 

[richardfortherepublic]

I never said he was a truther (in this thread ), I only said he welcomes them into the movement.

Fox is a mainstream news entity. Do you think McCain or Obama would appear on Alex Jones' show? Why would they if it is such a small, specialized audience? Ron Paul goes on their because he thinks he will be able to reach his supporters that way. He goes onto Fox News so that he can be heard within by the mainstream public. They are completely different types of appearances with completely different goals.


And thanks for ignoring the second part.

Alex Jones has 60 radio stations, and thousands of listeners online... There are probably more listeners on Alex Jones then there are views of handy comb. By no means is it a 'small' audience.

Not all of them are Paul supporters FYI. But the large majority is.

I'm sure Ron would go on any show that would give him the time of day... but just because he goes on a show, it does not limit him to the opinion of the shows host.

 

[brandon]

Is their anything worthwhile to read in this thread between pages 5 and 16?

 

[dannno]

Did anybody listen to Tucker Carlson's speech? Isn't that who this thread is about?

He is the one who said that Ron Paul is perfectly fine with other people in the movement having differing views from his as long as they are liberty-minded. He is the one that said to expect to hear differing views from your own during the rally. Can't you see how much of a hypocrite he is?

9/11 being an inside job has everything to do with liberty, and Ron Paul knows that is how we see it. Why can't some of you people see that? Why can't you leave truthers the fuck alone if you are going to choose ignore the overwhelming evidence yourself? Nobody is going around saying that Ron Paul says he believes 9/11 was an inside job, and that is the only thing you should be concerned with.

The actions of other individuals are their own business. It's your right to complain, but consider there are about 1,000 threads on this forum complaining about truthers assocating themselves with Ron Paul for every piece of evidence we have of truthers associating themselves with Ron Paul. Shut the fuck up already, it's getting tiring.

You need to sit back and think for a moment what it would be like to have the knowledge that 9/11 was an inside job. You guys are asking us to sit back and shut up. You obviously have no clue what it means to have this information, so try and imagine it so that you can see how important this is.. not to us as individuals, but to EVERYONE as individuals. Stop calling us selfish, we are trying to prevent future government sponsored terrorist attacks against other people. That isn't selfish, get a clue.

 

[dannno]

Alex Jones has 60 radio stations, and thousands of listeners online... There are probably more listeners on Alex Jones then there are views of handy comb. By no means is it a 'small' audience.

Not all of them are Paul supporters FYI. But the large majority is.

I'm sure Ron would go on any show that would give him the time of day... but just because he goes on a show, it does not limit him to the opinion of the shows host.

Alex Jones does not have an audience anywhere near that of mainstream television.

You are also still missing the point. If he was that interested in keeping truthers out of his campaign, he wouldn't have gone on a fucking truther show WEEK AFTER WEEK. He was on almost every week leading up to Super Tuesday.

The argument that he went on Fox News even though he doesn't agree with them is not a valid argument, because they are a portal to a mainstream audience. Alex Jones is not a mainstream audience, it is focussed.

 

[Jamsie 567]

This is a lie. We heard them loud and clear. Maybe you weren't sitting near them, but they were protesting and yelling "911 was an inside job" while shaking their fists and scaring away all the potential liberty supporters.

Actually it's not a lie it's the truth to me and I take my own word over yours. If you are saying you heard them. Then you are so far the only person I have heard from that attended who has said this. Which leads me to the conclusion it was a very insignifcant group of people. Not even worth mentioning in my opinion.

 

[dannno]

Actually it's not a lie it's the truth to me and I take my own word over yours. If you are saying you heard them. Then you are so far the only person I have heard from that attended who has said this. Which leads me to the conclusion it was a very insignifcant group of people. Not even worth mentioning in my opinion.

 

[dannno]

Is their anything worthwhile to read in this thread between pages 5 and 16?

11 & first couple posts on 12

 

[SeanEdwards]

It's your right to complain,

Exactly. So what is the problem? We've got truthers, and we've got truther-skeptics. Now what?