Tucker Carlson & Truthers

[V4Vendetta]

Besides, truthers just sat on their ass the ENTIRE year and a half of the campaign...

Excuse me? where do you get such a opinion?

 

[V4Vendetta]

The 9/11 movement

I am sorry for the harsh language, but you must realize that most of us are truthers, some admit it, some do not, but most of us are.

you found that out, when you posted that article.

 

[V4Vendetta]

First off, as much as I have been annoyed having to do it, I have been an ardent "Truther" defender on here though I completely disagree with you on the subject. So I take a bit of offense about being called "totally clueless" after I have indeed watched Loose Change, and have spent time informing people that many activists are in-fact Truthers and that actually many of them did NOT wrap their 9/11 Truth in with their campaigning.

And just so you are aware, I am in NYC where our Meetup had a large concentration of 9/11 Truth folks (probably 10-15%), but whenever we were out campaigning, they never wore their shirts or carried those signs or handed out 9/11 Truth stamped stuff because at that point they were campaigning for Ron PAUL, not 9/11 Truth. In fact a lot of the people I later found out were 9/11 folks were some of our best campaigners which is why I always bristle at the fact when people bucket ALL Truthers as detrimental to the campaign.

So you will not hear me knock 9/11 Truthers as campaigners, but just like any other subset of supporters, you WILL have some bad-apples that twitch at the idea of not pushing their pet-agenda when they campaign. I remember at a rally in Michigan a Truther handed out some 9/11 Inside Job items to a reporter from I believe the Boston Globe, and of course it made at least their online media content.

Bottomline is, if folks are campaigning whether they are Truthers or official-story-people or some other sort of zealot or non-zealot, campaigning takes finesse as you are talking to walking zombies in many cases. All the 9/11 Truth folks I campaigned alongside were amazing, but that doesn't mean the bushel doesn't have a bad apple or two.

you just gave a fine example of responsible, adult's that cared so much for this country, they could see that if the constitution was followed, 9/11 would have probably never happened.

Like I said before. I told everyone I knew, to not say a word about 9/11 while campaigning for Mr. Paul.

 

[Jaykzo]

Its pathetic, really.

You'd think that anyone wise enough to understand that all of 9/11's questions haven't been answered would also be wise enough to understand that chanting crap like that will only supress our movement.

If you like to think of yourself as a martyr because you're "brave enough to speak the truth," then keep at it. See how far it gets us. Theres a place and a time for 9/11 conspiracy talk- Far away from the CFL.

 

[RonPaulR3VOLUTION]

I am sorry for the harsh language, but you must realize that most of us are truthers, some admit it, some do not, but most of us are.

you found that out, when you posted that article.

That's not the point. There is nothing anti-truther in my article. A pro-Constitution message attracts people at least 1,000% better than the 9/11 message. Why use the inferior message that pushes so many away instead of Ron Paul's message which works so well? That's the issue.

The media loves when people show up at Ron Paul rallies and talk about 9/11. It's one of the first things they look for to discredit him with. Why would anyone want to play into the media's hands, which hurts the movement and Ron Paul? Do you think the media brings up 9/11 repeatedly when they bring up Ron Paul for your or his benefit?

So CNN or whoever brings up 9/11 again in relation to Ron Paul.

Truther: YAY!! We got on the news again by using Ron Paul!!!

RP supporter: But it's making him look bad and hurting his campaign and he specifically asked people not to....

Truther: That's all a lie! That's just what THEY want you to believe! People love the 9/11 message way more than the Constitution message!! And even if it hurts Ron Paul so what! It's worth it!! Getting out the 9/11 truth will solve all of our problems even if it really has nothing to do with our main problems!!

RP supporter: a small and open government would solve the 9/11 problem even if it was by our own government though...

Truther: 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!

RP supporter: oookaaaayyyyyyy.

Truther: SHILL!

Yeah, a huge exaggeration and oversimplification, but just head over to Daily Paul and see it's not so far off.

Carl Cameron: "Sir, would you ask them to cease that rhetoric, tonight, on your behalf." [On the issue of 9/11 truthers]

Ron Paul: "Well, it doesn't do me any good, so, if they care about me they should "

 

[V4Vendetta]

Its pathetic, really.

You'd think that anyone wise enough to understand that all of 9/11's questions haven't been answered would also be wise enough to understand that chanting crap like that will only supress our movement.

you would also think that doing that ONCE at ONE event, showed how restrained we have been.

I am aware that there are certain places and times for such actions. That's why i told all my fellow 9/11 truthers to not say a word about 9/11 while campaigning for Paul.

However, if a stadium, filled with 12,000 people, of which 2,000, atleast were truthers, long after Ron Paul suspended his campaign, is not the right place or time, i wonder what would be?

 

[V4Vendetta]

That's not the point. There is nothing anti-truther in my article. A pro-Constitution message attracts people at least 1,000% better than the 9/11 message. Why use the inferior message that pushes so many away instead of Ron Paul's message which works so well? That's the issue.

The media loves when people show up at Ron Paul rallies and talk about 9/11. It's one of the first things they look for to discredit him with. Why would anyone want to play into the media's hands, which hurts the movement and Ron Paul? Do you think the media brings up 9/11 repeatedly when they bring up Ron Paul for your or his benefit?

So CNN or whoever brings up 9/11 again in relation to Ron Paul.

Truther: YAY!! We got on the news again by using Ron Paul!!!

RP supporter: But it's making him look bad and hurting his campaign and he specifically asked people not to....

Truther: That's all a lie! That's just what THEY want you to believe! People love the 9/11 message way more than the Constitution message!! And even if it hurts Ron Paul so what! It's worth it!! Getting out the 9/11 truth will solve all of our problems even if it really has nothing to do with our main problems!!

RP supporter: a small and open government would solve the 9/11 problem even if it was by our own government though...

Truther: 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!

RP supporter: oookaaaayyyyyyy.

Truther: SHILL!

Yeah, a huge exaggeration and oversimplification, but just head over to Daily Paul and see it's not so far off.

Carl Cameron: "Sir, would you ask them to cease that rhetoric, tonight, on your behalf." [On the issue of 9/11 truthers]

Ron Paul: "Well, it doesn't do me any good, so, if they care about me they should "

I understand what you're saying, and if I saw that happening, i would have prabably Body Slammed that a$$hole. He is either a complete and total moron, or a CIA operative.

Alex Jones, to his discredit, was encouraging people to do that at Ron Paul rallys, and events.

I know it was damaging, but only a few people actually have enough brains to understand what they are doing.

 

[CAKochenash]

Excuse me? where do you get such a opinion?

You should probably calm down a tad.

I was standing up for your 1st amendment.

The previous statement you quoted was intended to be read very sarcastically, as was the entire comment.

You can't get so heated when discussing a very unknown topic, it can turn people off.

Please, for the sake of furthering the message you are attempting to convey, calm down.

 

[richardfortherepublic]

Completely False, you are now discredited.
Alex and Paul have been friends for about 10 years.

This film came out, i think, in 2003 Ron Paul is the main speaker in this film.
Matrix of Evil:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-390424387879906415



Once again, you are discredited.



Looks like a baseless claim by you




I have told my fellow truthers to leave it out of Ron Paul's campaign.
The campaign is over, and people need to learn of the truth about 9/11.

Ok,

1)I am just saying what AJ said on numerous occasions. Those aren't my words. But seeing how he exaggerates things constantly, I can see where there is confusion on how he knows Ron.

2)How?

3)How?

4)Great. If We are Change and the CFL want to team up, fantastic, I'll drop my support.

 

[PatriotOne]

I heard there was some kind of altercation between the asshole truthers and Tucker Carlson. They supposedly scared him off & he stopped being MC. What exactly happened??

Where's your source or are you just pulling this out of your ass?

 

[Jaykzo]

you would also think that doing that ONCE at ONE event, showed how restrained we have been.

I am aware that there are certain places and times for such actions. That's why i told all my fellow 9/11 truthers to not say a word about 9/11 while campaigning for Paul.

However, if a stadium, filled with 12,000 people, of which 2,000, atleast were truthers, long after Ron Paul suspended his campaign, is not the right place or time, i wonder what would be?

The right place for a discussion of that magnitude (or even a chant) is best left in private, between close friends and family members. Not at a rally that everyone knows will be broadcast nationally, and viewed globally.

 

[V4Vendetta]

Ok,

1)I am just saying what AJ said on numerous occasions. Those aren't my words. But seeing how he exaggerates things constantly, I can see where there is confusion on how he knows Ron.

2)How?

3)How?

4)Great. If We are Change and the CFL want to team up, fantastic, I'll drop my support.

2) because you don;t even know how Paul and Jones know each other.

3) because you don;t even know how Paul and Jones know each other.

4) pervert what i'm saying why don't you.

 

[V4Vendetta]

The right place for a discussion of that magnitude (or even a chant) is best left in private, between close friends and family members. Not at a rally that everyone knows will be broadcast nationally, and viewed globally.

i wonder how the American people are susposed to find out the truth about 9/11?
Word of mouth?

We've tried that for 7 years.
We have made great advances, but time is almost up. How long until something of that nature would be acceptable to you?

 

[SeanEdwards]

Whatever. Tucker showing up at that press conference with a bunch of hookers did more to harm Ron Paul among conservative GOP primary voters than the actions of all the "truthers" combined.

ROFL! Hookers are wholesome family fun compared to the public abortion that is the "truther" movement.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I am sorry for the harsh language, but you must realize that most of us are truthers

No, you're just loud.

 

[V4Vendetta]

No, you're just loud.

I was apologizing for other peoples language, not mine.

 

[V4Vendetta]

No, you're just loud.

Loud through letters on a computer screen, thanks for the complement.

 

[ClayTrainor]

To all of you bashing the truthers, thinking they are hurting the movement....

Do you realize that we are all conspiracy theorists in the eyes of the media?

We've been called conspiracy nuts for saying the NAU is real, we get called conspiracy nuts for talking about New World Order, we've been called conspiracy nuts for claiming the FED is destroying the Economy.

Go ahead and think it's the "truthers" responsible for the media bashing us. We are ALL conspiracy theorists in the eyes of the mainstream, whether you accept it or not.

It has nothign to do with 911... 911 truthers are just 1 of many "conspiracy groups" involved and working together in the Ron Paul campaign

 

[richardfortherepublic]

2) because you don;t even know how Paul and Jones know each other.

3) because you don;t even know how Paul and Jones know each other.

4) pervert what i'm saying why don't you.

Why don't I drop my support because I think the issue of 9/11 "truth" has no place with Ron Paul's movement?

Do we not agree on this issue Chester Molester?

I just said what Alex said, I guess he is a liar, and he is discredited to me. Guess I should have known not to take anything AJ says seriously.

 

[RickyJ]

truthers piss me off!


they were at the march too..


they are like parasites.

You sheeple will never learn even though your leader gives you numerous clues as to what he really thinks about 9/11. HE INVITED JESSE TO SPEAK AT THE RALLY WHILE KNOWING HIS VIEWS ABOUT 9/11 BEFOREHAND! HE REGURALY GOES ON ALEX JONES RADIO PROGRAM WHILE KNOWING MOST OF ALEX'S LISTENERS ARE 9/11 TRUTHERS!.

Please buy a clue!