Trump's remarks on vaccine development this morning

[dannno]

As far as the letter in the OP, Trump already knows everything in there, he's already said it himself, and he has made it clear many times he is against mandatory vaccines.

You may as well email an angry letter to Ron Paul and tell him he needs to think about supporting the Constitution or something..

 

[CCTelander]

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

 

[dannno]

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

Yes, and Denver has to make the playoffs..

I know fucking english, stop pretending you don't.


THE PRESIDENT: No, we’re looking for a full vaccine for everyone that wants to get it. Not everybody is going to want to get it.


^That statement is clear. Your statement is vague. You interpreted wrong, issue over.

 

[CCTelander]

Yes, and Denver has to make the playoffs..

I know fucking english, stop pretending you don't.


THE PRESIDENT: No, we’re looking for a full vaccine for everyone that wants to get it. Not everybody is going to want to get it.


^That statement is clear. Your statement is vague. You interpreted wrong, issue over.

Bullshit. The context of the situation, the context of the statement, his body language and the emphasis placed on certain words all render your interpretation of Trump's statement regarding the Jews refusing the measles vaccination impossible. He was unequivocally supporting the NY mandate. All the rhetorical gymnastics in the world will not change that fact.

 

[John-G]

Wanna borrow my wall?

You only say that because you don't understand the 5d chess Trump is playing. He is trying to protect us from our stupid selves whilst beating the deep state. Now roll up your selves, shut up and take your damn vaccines.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Regarding the Jews refusing measles vaccinations in NY last summer: "They have to get the shots. The vaccinations are so important. This is going around now. They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

ETA: The evidence that he would support mandatory vaccination mandated at the state level seems stronger.

His medical opinion is not the same as what he would have the government force.

 

[PAF]

Yes, and Denver has to make the playoffs..

I know $#@!ing english, stop pretending you don't.


THE PRESIDENT: No, we’re looking for a full vaccine for everyone that wants to get it. Not everybody is going to want to get it.


^That statement is clear. Your statement is vague. You interpreted wrong, issue over.

Look. We know how much you admire your king.

“Not everybody is going to want to get it.”

Key words, “not everybody is going to want to get it”.

The part you fail to understand, or willingly ignore, is that unless you get the shot, you will not be permitted to re-integrate back into society. States, government buildings, companies, schools, planes, trains, busses, cruise ships, etc etc etc will NOT permit you to pass go without one.

What part of, the Fed is funding biometric/pharmaceutical companies, do you NOT comprehend? Do you believe said companies will just vanish whether trump gets re-elected or not? And that on some particular day, all of the states and businesses are just going to magically open up without restriction?

 

[CCTelander]

His medical opinion is not the same as what he would have the government force.

There is no "medical opinion" offered in that comment. Merely a bland statement supporting the fact that the Jews who were resisting the vaccination had no choice in the matter. "They have to get the shot." (Trump's emphasis) No election. Mandatory. Period. And Trump offered no objection of any kind to that reality.

Your spin is exceedingly weak.

 

[PAF]

The little old lady line was referrencing another post I made earlier. Either you didn't read it or didn't get the reference. Either way no biggie. They can't all be winners.

As far as appearing insane to you goes, since you consider basically anyone who doesn't slurp up every drop of the pro-Trump pablum you and one or two others ladel up daily and then beg for more insane, I guess I'll consider that a badge of honor and consider it an indication that I'm doing something right.

Cap has the right idea dealing with these blockheads.

 

[PAF]

There is no "medical opinion" offered in that comment. Merely a bland statement supporting the fact that the Jews who were resisting the vaccination had no choice in the matter. "They have to get the shot." (Trump's emphasis) No election. Mandatory. Period. And Trump offered no objection of any kind to that reality.

Your spin is exceedingly weak.

And what they fail to get is: Government has NO GD business in healthcare!

It’s like they’re waiting for some magical solution to come down from the king-all-mighty, and ignore the real players that are rolling this out!

 

[susano]

Trump: No, we’re looking for a full vaccine for everyone that wants to get it. Not everybody is going to want to get it.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vaccine-development/

Here's the problem:

He is now championing something he knows nothing about.

He has bought the public "health" (vaccine and big pharma pimps) bullshit hook, line and sinker.

He doesn't possess the intellectual curiosity to find out the truth.

He chose not to listen to RFK Jr.

He has NEVER stood up for the Bill of Rights or against the governors and mayors waging war on us.

He's signed on to hundreds of billions of dollars being funneled to tyrants and fraudsters under the guise of fighting something that doesn't exist (aka, "the invisible enemy").

Tyrants around the country have already mandated vaccines and not a peep from him about it.

It is his job to protect and defend the constitution, not push vaccines, and he isn't doing it.

I could go on but will just say here's the other problem: A lot of people were snowed by things Trump promised. A lot of other people were just hopeful and a lot of other people simply voted for him because if he wasn't elected then Hillary Clinton would have been. Wishes and third parties aside, in the fall of 2020, it will be Trump, who is a weak and unprincipled clown who is fairly pro USA or it's going to be full blown globalists Marxists (those handling Biden). Currently, simply out of stupidity, Trump is implementing the Marxist's agenda without even understanding that. I'd say he's doing about 80-85% of it. With Biden we'll get 100%. It is a terrible predicament. I understand anyone who can't vote for Trump and I also understand those who will to stave off that other 15-20% of the Satanists' agenda.

What matters here is freedom and the only use Trump provides is that he's very unlikely to sign any legislation for federally mandated vaccines and Biden would. It doesn't protect anyone from the abuses going on at the state and local level because Trump will not stand up for the Bill of Rights, which he easily could but is too stupid to even be aware of it.

Where does this leave us? I don't know. I just hope some brave or crazy soul takes an action that kicks off a war because that's what it's going to take to stop the Satanists. Trump won't do it and everyone supporting him, whatever their motivation, needs to understand that.

 

[dannno]

Look. We know how much you admire your king.

“Not everybody is going to want to get it.”

Key words, “not everybody is going to want to get it”.

The part you fail to understand, or willingly ignore, is that unless you get the shot, you will not be permitted to re-integrate back into society. States, government buildings, companies, schools, planes, trains, busses, cruise ships, etc etc etc will NOT permit you to pass go without one.

What part of, the Fed is funding biometric/pharmaceutical companies, do you NOT comprehend? Do you believe said companies will just vanish whether trump gets re-elected or not? And that on some particular day, all of the states and businesses are just going to magically open up without restriction?

That's what I am so excited about having a President who opposes mandatory vaccines and a justice department that is willing to fight for our Constitutional rights.

Why are you opposed to that?

Remember, according to the OP it is very unlikely, if not impossible, that we will ever get a vaccine to begin with.

But if they aren't working on one, the blue states are not going to open their economy as fast, get their schools going, etc, etc.

So Trump is clearly making the smart play here to get things rolling.

 

[dannno]

And what they fail to get is: Government has NO GD business in healthcare!

It’s like they’re waiting for some magical solution to come down from the king-all-mighty, and ignore the real players that are rolling this out!

Uh, no we want the Governors to open the economy.

And we are grateful that the federal govt. has made no mandates, and only rolled out guidelines. And that they are opposed to mandatory vaccines.

Why are you opposed to that?

 

[dannno]

Here's the problem:

He is now championing something he knows nothing about.

He has bought the public "health" (vaccine and big pharma pimps) bullshit hook, line and sinker.

He doesn't possess the intellectual curiosity to find out the truth.

He chose not to listen to RFK Jr.

He has NEVER stood up for the Bill of Rights or against the governors and mayors waging war on us.

He's signed on to hundreds of billions of dollars being funneled to tyrants and fraudsters under the guise of fighting something that doesn't exist (aka, "the invisible enemy").

Tyrants around the country have already mandated vaccines and not a peep from him about it.

It is his job to protect and defend the constitution, not push vaccines, and he isn't doing it.

I could go on but will just say here's the other problem: A lot of people were snowed by things Trump promised. A lot of other people were just hopeful and a lot of other people simply voted for him because if he wasn't elected then Hillary Clinton would have been. Wishes and third parties aside, in the fall of 2020, it will be Trump, who is a weak and unprincipled clown who is fairly pro USA or it's going to be full blown globalists Marxists (those handling Biden). Currently, simply out of stupidity, Trump is implementing the Marxist's agenda without even understanding that. I'd say he's doing about 80-85% of it. With Biden we'll get 100%. It is a terrible predicament. I understand anyone who can't vote for Trump and I also understand those who will to stave off that other 15-20% of the Satanists' agenda.

What matters here is freedom and the only use Trump provides is that he's very unlikely to sign any legislation for federally mandated vaccines and Biden would. It doesn't protect anyone from the abuses going on at the state and local level because Trump will not stand up for the Bill of Rights, which he easily could but is too stupid to even be aware of it.

Where does this leave us? I don't know. I just hope some brave or crazy soul takes an action that kicks off a war because that's what it's going to take to stop the Satanists. Trump won't do it and everyone supporting him, whatever their motivation, needs to understand that.

Trump is not "championing" a vaccine, that is so far from the truth it is ridiculous.

He has spoken enough that we know, that he knows, that this vaccine probably will never come to fruition. He has said enough times that he doesn't even think the vaccine will ever be used because by the time they do make one, if they can, this will probably be gone. But he also knows that a lot of people don't want to open the economy until we have one, or until there is at least some work being done to get one done.

It gives them less excuses to keep their economy closed.

It amazes me that after 3 years of Trump making these strategic plays, turning Russiagate and the Impeachment and COVID-19, then turning it on their heads with Obamagate - and you still don't think he is operating on some type of deeper strategy. What else do you need to see?

 

[Created4]

Uh, no we want the Governors to open the economy.

Who is "we"? And why should we care what "we" "want"?

And we are grateful that the federal govt. has made no mandates, and only rolled out guidelines.

What??!! Who mandated that GM and 3M stop making the products they were selling in a free market society and instead make products for the pharmaceutical industry, such as ventilators and masks?

And that they are opposed to mandatory vaccines.

Who is "they"? Can you show me one quote from President Trump where he actually says "I am opposed to mandatory vaccines"?

And don't keep showing that lame quote he said yesterday, because he did NOT say he was "opposed to mandatory vaccines."

When mandatory vaccines were rolled in New York city this past summer due to the measles "epidemic," where children who were not vaccinated with the MMR vaccine were banned from school and public places, this was Trump's response:



Why would we expect a different response this time? Here is not a legislator, so he cannot mandate vaccines anyway. And the absence of an executive order to mandate them is not proof that he is against them.

He is pro-vaccine. Do you believe Trump is an anti vaxxer?

 

[dannno]

Who is "we"? And why should we care what "we" "want"?

If you don't think the governors should open the economy, you really don't belong here.

Who is "they"? Can you show me one quote from President Trump where he actually says "I am opposed to mandatory vaccines"?

He has said it plenty of times, one of the quotes has been posted several times in this thread. He clearly was asked if the vaccine was for everybody, and he said it was for everybody who wants to get it, not everybody is going to want to get it. That is crystal fucking clear.

He also talked about it before he was elected. Trump has strong concerns against vaccine safety, he has made that abundantly clear.

If somebody had told me 5 years ago we would have a President who was clearly against mandatory vaccines, and there were a bunch of RPF posters here who were anti-vaccine and were opposing him, I would say wow, I had no idea we had paid posters here who pretended to be anti-vaccine.

And don't keep showing that lame quote he said yesterday, because he did NOT say he was "opposed to mandatory vaccines."

Uh, ya, that's exactly what it fucking says. It says the vaccine is going to be for people that want it. That means it's not mandatory. Do you need a fucking english class?

 

[dannno]

He is pro-vaccine. Do you believe Trump is an anti vaxxer?

There is a middle ground, which is exactly where I am. I am not "anti-vaccine", but I have a lot of very strong concerns with the safety and efficacy of vaccines and how the federal government approves them and the shear quantity of vaccines they recommend/require.

That is exactly where Trump is.

That is also where Dr. Shiva is, and he is probably the most qualified person to talk about this topic imo.

 

[Created4]

If you don't think the governors should open the economy, you really don't belong here.

And where exactly do you see me saying that? Straw man arguments are lame, and I am not sure you have any authority here to determine who "belongs" and who does not.

Take a look at my join date brother. We have both fought many battles together, and I have no bad feelings or bad intentions against you personally, it is just we don't agree on this issue.

He has said it plenty of times, one of the quotes has been posted several times in this thread. He clearly was asked if the vaccine was for everybody, and he said it was for everybody who wants to get it, not everybody is going to want to get it. That is crystal $#@!ing clear.

Then show me the quote, because I don't remember him ever saying exactly that he is "opposed to mandatory vaccines."

He also talked about it before he was elected.

Who cares? He also met with Bobby Kennedy and promised him to setup a vaccine safety commission, and he never did it.

Do you need a $#@!ing english class?

Do you need to personally attack people when they don't agree with you? Is your argument so weak you have to resort to personal attacks?

 

[dannno]

And where exactly do you see me saying that? Straw man arguments are lame, and I am not sure you have any authority here to determine who "belongs" and who does not.

That's not a "strawman", I said "Uh, no we want the Governors to open the economy."

Then you said:
Who is "we"? And why should we care what "we" "want"?

What you should have said was, "Yes, I agree, we need the states to open their economies. I'm so glad we have a President who is doing what it takes to make sure that happens, even if it looks a little confusing to me. I'm also glad we have a President who has made it crystal clear that the vaccine will not be mandatory. We could be sooo much worse off right now, can you imagine?"

 

[Created4]

There is a middle ground, which is exactly where I am. I am not "anti-vaccine", but I have a lot of very strong concerns with the safety and efficacy of vaccines and how the federal government approves them and the shear quantity of vaccines they recommend/require.

That is exactly where Trump is.

That is also where Dr. Shiva is, and he is probably the most qualified person to talk about this topic imo.

Dr. Shiva is a fraud who has just recently jumped on the vaccine bandwagon and attacked everyone else in the movement who has been fighting for health freedom for more than a decade.

He is intelligent, I will give him that.

Critical Questions for Dr. Shiva About His Attempts to Splinter the Health Freedom Movement - by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.