Trump's remarks on vaccine development this morning

[Created4]

That's not a "strawman", I said "Uh, no we want the Governors to open the economy."

Then you said:
Who is "we"? And why should we care what "we" "want"?

What you should have said was, "Yes, I agree, we need the states to open the economy. I'm so glad we have a President who is doing what it takes to make sure that happens, even if it looks a little confusing to me. I'm also glad we have a President who has made it crystal clear that the vaccine will not be mandatory. We could be sooo much worse off right now, can you imagine?"

So you took my questions (not statements) and projected your own version of the truth into them.

Wake up Dannno. Try to find an addiction program to free you from this Trump cult. There must be a 5-step program somewhere....

 

[PAF]

RonPaulForums

Must it be repeated: Government has NO business in healthcare, not matter what opinion a president or a governor might have on the topic.

The concern and the hard reality is, Fed.gov is giving plenty of tax payer funding to private and startup biotech/pharmaceutical companies, to develop “vaccines”, biometrics and tracking apparatus. The lobbyists have been and will work with whatever government entities to roll this out, on OUR tax dime.

What part of this do people not understand?
[MENTION=3944]Cap[/MENTION], I need that head banging against that brick wall again!

 

[susano]

Trump is not "championing" a vaccine, that is so far from the truth it is ridiculous.

He has spoken enough that we know, that he knows, that this vaccine probably will never come to fruition. He has said enough times that he doesn't even think the vaccine will ever be used because by the time they do make one, if they can, this will probably be gone. But he also knows that a lot of people don't want to open the economy until we have one, or until there is at least some work being done to get one done.

It gives them less excuses to keep their economy closed.

It amazes me that after 3 years of Trump making these strategic plays, turning Russiagate and the Impeachment and COVID-19, then turning it on their heads with Obamagate - and you still don't think he is operating on some type of deeper strategy. What else do you need to see?

What do you call that video where said the Hasidic Jews needed to get the measles vaccine?

Look, I'm not saying not to vote for him to keep away the remaining 15-20% of the Satanic agenda. I'm just sayin' that's there's a lot of magical thinking going on, attributing some deep strategy to Trump's errors. Please show me where he has defended the Bill of Rights and gone after the tyrants.

 

[susano]

RonPaulForums

Must it be repeated: Government has NO business in healthcare, not matter what opinion a president or a governor might have on the topic.

The concern and the hard reality is, Fed.gov is giving plenty of tax payer funding to private and startup biotech/pharmaceutical companies, to develop “vaccines”, biometrics and tracking apparatus. The lobbyists have been and will work with whatever government entities to roll this out, on OUR tax dime.

What part of this do people not understand?
[MENTION=3944]Cap[/MENTION], I need that head banging against that brick wall again!

The entire "global public health" needs to attacked, attacked, attacked and dismantled. At the very least, here in the US.

 

[Created4]

Look, I'm not saying not to vote for him to keep away the remaining 15-20% of the Satanic agenda.

I'm not saying not to vote for him either. I am on record as complimenting Trump when he does good things, like early on in this "pandemic" when he promoted safe drugs that were already in the market, and when he brought out that guy who promoted sunshine, etc.

But we have to judge him by what he DOES, not what he has said in the past he is going to do, or what people want to believe he is going to do.

There can be no denying that he knows exactly who these people are that he is authorizing HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars to be given to, and that they are part of Bill Gates' empire and goal to vaccinate every person on the planet.

He also just announced we are going to re-join the terrorist-led WHO, with their global agenda to vaccinate every single person on the planet.

He has already done it. Past tense.

To continue denying this, like it is some kind of chess game or over all plan for a greater good, is delusional and NOT based on any facts - only BELIEF, which belongs in the Religion forum in my opinion.

And I will do my job as a journalist, using my First Amendment rights, to call him out on it. Because honest, truth-seeking journalism, should be about preserving the truth and following it wherever it leads, and NOT having political party loyalties, or loyalties to political figures.

THAT, in my opinion, is what the intent was with the First Amendment when it was penned by our forefathers. The intent was to hold the government responsible to the people.

We have not seen that much in recent years, with the corporate media pretty much bought off by Big Pharma, which is also now in bed with Big Tech.

How sad that some people on this forum would suggest that I "don't belong here."

If that's the case, then I don't know what the purpose of these forums are anymore. As I have said previously, everything I am exposing here is also being exposed by the person these forums were named after, Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is most certainly not part of the Trump cult.

 

[susano]

I'm not saying not to vote for him either. I am on record as complimenting Trump when he does good things, like early on in this "pandemic" when he promoted safe drugs that were already in the market, and when he brought out that guy who promoted sunshine, etc.

But we have to judge him by what he DOES, not what he has said in the past he is going to do, or what people want to believe he is going to do.

There can be no denying that he knows exactly who these people are that he is authorizing HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars to be given to, and that they are part of Bill Gates' empire and goal to vaccinate every person on the planet.

He also just announced we are going to re-join the terrorist-led WHO, with their global agenda to vaccinate every single person on the planet.

He has already done it. Past tense.

To continue denying this, like it is some kind of chess game or over all plan for a greater good, is delusional and NOT based on any facts - only BELIEF, which belongs in the Religion forum in my opinion.

And I will do my job as a journalist, using my First Amendment rights, to call him out on it. Because honest, truth-seeking journalism, should be about preserving the truth and following it wherever it leads, and NOT having political party loyalties, or loyalties to political figures.

THAT, in my opinion, is what the intent was with the First Amendment when it was penned by our forefathers. The intent was to hold the government responsible to the people.

We have not seen that much in recent years, with the corporate media pretty much bought off by Big Pharma, which is also now in bed with Big Tech.

How sad that some people on this forum would suggest that I "don't belong here."

If that's the case, then I don't know what the purpose of these forums are anymore. As I have said previously, everything I am exposing here is also being exposed by the person these forums were named after, Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is most certainly not part of the Trump cult.

I wholeheartedly agree and you DO belong here - especially because of your insistence on sticking with the truth.

I don't know why defending Trump and putting words in his mouth or thoughts in head are so important. I'm willing to say I may still for vote for him, knowing he's a moron, but isn't as bad as whatever else we'll get. I was never a lesser evil kind of voter until 2016 and things are so bad now that I can only view voting from that perspective, now. I'm sure as hell not going to defend idiocy, even if I feel forced to choose it over Beelzebub.

 

[Created4]

He has said it plenty of times, one of the quotes has been posted several times in this thread. He clearly was asked if the vaccine was for everybody, and he said it was for everybody who wants to get it, not everybody is going to want to get it. That is crystal $#@!ing clear.

Then show me the quote, because I don't remember him ever saying exactly that he is "opposed to mandatory vaccines."

Still waiting for this ^^^^

I just did an Internet search for "Trump is opposed to mandatory vaccines" and did not find anything....

 

[pcosmar]

That is literally how insane you sound to me right now.

That is just what I was thinking.

 

[pcosmar]

That is exactly where Trump is.

Where??
He is all over the board..

He talks out of Both sides of his Face..

He is against it but he Funds it with Billion$.

give me a freakin' break.

 

[CCTelander]

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

This needs repeating for those having difficulty with it.

 

[CCTelander]

There is no "medical opinion" offered in that comment. Merely a bland statement supporting the fact that the Jews who were resisting the vaccination had no choice in the matter. "They have to get the shot." (Trump's emphasis) No election. Mandatory. Period. And Trump offered no objection of any kind to that reality.

Your spin is exceedingly weak.

This too.

 

[Ender]

I'm not saying not to vote for him either. I am on record as complimenting Trump when he does good things, like early on in this "pandemic" when he promoted safe drugs that were already in the market, and when he brought out that guy who promoted sunshine, etc.

But we have to judge him by what he DOES, not what he has said in the past he is going to do, or what people want to believe he is going to do.

There can be no denying that he knows exactly who these people are that he is authorizing HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars to be given to, and that they are part of Bill Gates' empire and goal to vaccinate every person on the planet.

He also just announced we are going to re-join the terrorist-led WHO, with their global agenda to vaccinate every single person on the planet.

He has already done it. Past tense.

To continue denying this, like it is some kind of chess game or over all plan for a greater good, is delusional and NOT based on any facts - only BELIEF, which belongs in the Religion forum in my opinion.

And I will do my job as a journalist, using my First Amendment rights, to call him out on it. Because honest, truth-seeking journalism, should be about preserving the truth and following it wherever it leads, and NOT having political party loyalties, or loyalties to political figures.

THAT, in my opinion, is what the intent was with the First Amendment when it was penned by our forefathers. The intent was to hold the government responsible to the people.

We have not seen that much in recent years, with the corporate media pretty much bought off by Big Pharma, which is also now in bed with Big Tech.

How sad that some people on this forum would suggest that I "don't belong here."

If that's the case, then I don't know what the purpose of these forums are anymore. As I have said previously, everything I am exposing here is also being exposed by the person these forums were named after, Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is most certainly not part of the Trump cult.

Dude- you definitely belong here! You've been one of the best posters through this whole virus insanity- don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

 

[PAF]

Dude- you definitely belong here! You've been one of the best posters through this whole virus insanity- don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

I second that

 

[PAF]

Originally Posted by CCTelander
"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

"They have to get the shot." - Donald Trump (his emphasis)

This needs repeating for those having difficulty with it.

Along with: Government has NO business in healthcare.

 

[CCTelander]

Along with: Government has NO business in healthcare.

Absolutely.

 

[Cap]

Do you really not understanding $#@!ing english?





[/B]Do you want to know who the pro-mandatory vaccine people are in this thread?

They are the people who are $#@!ING IGNORING THE FACT THAT ONE CANDIDATE RUNNING IS AGAINST MANDATORY VACCINES!!

Let me put it to you this way.

Let's say I was Bill Gates and I was trolling the internet trying to push foward my agenda.

Let's say I was on a forum full of people who are against mandatory vaccines.

Would my best strategy be to try and convince them that vaccines should be mandatory? No, that would be foolish, and it would never work.

The best strategy would be to go in and pretend that the candidate who is against mandatory vaccines is actually FOR them, so that nobody supports that candidate.

So you are actually coming here and doing THE ONE THING that someone who is pro-mandatory vaccine like Bill Gates would do in order push forward his agenda.

Stop pretending that you are more pure, stop pretending you are better than us because you $#@!ing aren't. You are pushing the same bull$#@! agenda Bill Gates would be pushing if he was an anonymous member of this forum.

Oh look...a triggered Trumpkin.

 

[dannno]

How sad that some people on this forum would suggest that I "don't belong here."

Dishonest posters really don't belong here, imo. People who manipulate other people's statements, etc. I think we can all agree on that, right?

I'm not saying you are a dishonest poster, but I will give you a chance to redeem yourself.

Nobody said you don't belong here, nobody, ever. So what you are doing is making the forum look bad by being dishonest about what other people here have said. That is called defamation. People who defame the forum don't belong here, imo.

Earlier I made a comment that we all want the states to re-open the economy.

You said, "who's we?"

That statement insinuates that you don't want the states to re-open the economy.

I said anybody who doesn't want the states to re-open the economy probably doesn't belong here.

So, I guess the question is, do you want the states to re-open the economy? If you do, then you belong here.

If you want to apologize for defaming the forum with a dishonest statement that somebody said YOU don't belong here, when the statement was specifically that people who don't want the states to re-open don't belong here, well then maybe you just made a mistake. That can certainly be forgiven.

If you want to twist this post into something it isn't on purpose, then I would say you don't belong here. Dishonesty has no place in these types of discussions.

 

[dannno]

Oh look...a triggered Trumpkin.

This post has a lot of redeeming qualities and is very persuasive, thank you for adding so much value to the discussion.

 

[Suzu]

After backlash from vaccine skeptics, Trump appears to be distancing himself from vaccines as the “cure-all” for dealing with the coronavirus pandemic

 

[PAF]

After backlash from vaccine skeptics, Trump appears to be distancing himself from vaccines as the “cure-all” for dealing with the coronavirus pandemic

Now that Trump/Fauci got the ball rolling early on as the Fed is funding many of the biotech/pharmaceutical companies, and will now be left to the states, schools, businesses, government buildings to redress grievances, airports, cruise ships, recreational parks, etc....

that is a good move by Trump, because elections are coming up.

Remember, we must “win”.