Trump won't participate in Thursday's debate

[Occam's Banana]

I find it amusing that even here at rpfs you people can't resist talking about this fartbag.

 

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http://conservativetribune.com/the-upper-cut-donalds-mistake/

[h=1]The Upper Cut: Donald’s “Mistake” Just Lost Iowa… And Maybe The Election[/h]I think Donald Trump has finally jumped the shark, and it’s not because of his comment about shooting someone on 5th Avenue.
I mean, yes — that was a stupid comment. Only The Donald would be bombastic enough to say, essentially, “You want to know how dumb my supporters are? They’d still follow me even if I committed a major felony!”
Even Hillary Clinton, whose followers do appear, in fact, to be precisely that dumb, wouldn’t say such a thing out loud.
But there are four other reasons I think it’s time to stick a fork in Donald Trump’s campaign.
First, he badly mangled his response when asked to define a conservative. He clearly has no concept of small government, the free market or individual liberty — at least not in relationship to actually governing.
To Trump, a conservative is someone who “doesn’t like risk,” wants to balance the budget and likes a strong military.
I understand how someone can call themselves a constitutional conservative and vote for Donald Trump. I understand how someone can read his remarks and vote for Donald Trump. I understand how someone can call themselves a constitutional conservative and read his remarks.
But I’ll be damned if I can figure out how anyone could do all three.
Second, Trump told CNN on Monday that once he was in the Oval Office, it would be time to “make deals.” That’s a problem, as Rush Limbaugh pointed out the following day.
Trump’s supporters don’t want deals with the left. Conservatives don’t want deals with the left. Only the Washington Establishment, against whom Trump claims to have been running all this time, wants deals with the left.
Third, the man who has never seemed afraid to take on anyone has now backed out of a debate because Megyn Kelly will be there. That’s classic bully behavior — act tough till someone pushes back, then cower. His supporters are going to have a lot of trouble supporting that — they know Kelly isn’t some liberal hack or, as Trump claimed, a “third-rate reporter.”
Finally, and perhaps most tellingly (though admittedly the most subjective), his supporters seem to have largely shut up. Yesterday I made most of these points elsewhere online with virtually no response — normally the Trumpeters have been all over me for even hinting that their candidate was less than the messiah of the right.
I think they’re starting to catch on (proving that they are, in fact, smarter than Hillary Clinton supporters, who probably never will).
Trump just showed himself to be not only not a conservative, but the most establishment-friendly candidate in the top tier who’s afraid of those who actually stand up to him.
Good luck with that platform, sir.
George Upper is the managing editor of Conservative Tribune. His weekly column, “The Upper Cut,” appears each Tuesday morning and occasionally more often when the occasion calls for it. In addition to sharing this op-ed piece on social media, you can also connect with him on Facebook or on Twitter @georgeupper.

 

[CPUd]

I wish these writers could find some other word besides 'bombastic'.

 

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I wish these writers could find some other word besides 'bombastic'.

bombasticadjectivehis bombastic speeches could send thousands into the streets: pompous, blustering, turgid, verbose, orotund, high-flown, high-sounding, overwrought, pretentious, ostentatious, grandiloquent; informal highfalutin, puffed up; rare fustian.

 

[CPUd]

I would settle for 'asshole'

 

[Occam's Banana]

I am not defending Trump - I have absolutely no use whatsoever for the land-grabbing egomaniac - but I am unpersuaded by any this.

My comments in RED.

http://conservativetribune.com/the-upper-cut-donalds-mistake/

The Upper Cut: Donald’s “Mistake” Just Lost Iowa… And Maybe The Election

[...]

But there are four other reasons I think it’s time to stick a fork in Donald Trump’s campaign.

First, he badly mangled his response when asked to define a conservative. He clearly has no concept of small government, the free market or individual liberty — at least not in relationship to actually governing.

So what? Neither do many of the people who call themselves "conservative."

And I expect that this is especially true of most Trump supporters.

To Trump, a conservative is someone who “doesn’t like risk,” wants to balance the budget and likes a strong military.

Again, I expect that this is true of most Trump supporters. So I'm not seeing how this "sticks a fork" in Trump ...

I understand how someone can call themselves a constitutional conservative and vote for Donald Trump. I understand how someone can read his remarks and vote for Donald Trump. I understand how someone can call themselves a constitutional conservative and read his remarks.

But I’ll be damned if I can figure out how anyone could do all three.

Here's a hint: it's called "cognitive dissonance" - and it's a thing which voters in general (and not just Trump supporters in particular) are very good at ...

Second, Trump told CNN on Monday that once he was in the Oval Office, it would be time to “make deals.” That’s a problem, as Rush Limbaugh pointed out the following day.

Trump’s supporters don’t want deals with the left. Conservatives don’t want deals with the left. Only the Washington Establishment, against whom Trump claims to have been running all this time, wants deals with the left.

And the Trump-struck are likely to reply that Teh Donald so excels at the art of deal-making that the left will never know what hit them ...

Third, the man who has never seemed afraid to take on anyone has now backed out of a debate because Megyn Kelly will be there. That’s classic bully behavior — act tough till someone pushes back, then cower. His supporters are going to have a lot of trouble supporting that — they know Kelly isn’t some liberal hack or, as Trump claimed, a “third-rate reporter.”

Any Trump supporter can simply spin this as "standing up to the biased media" rather than bully-ish cowardice - and Trump will only look better to them for it.

Finally, and perhaps most tellingly (though admittedly the most subjective), his supporters seem to have largely shut up. Yesterday I made most of these points elsewhere online with virtually no response — normally the Trumpeters have been all over me for even hinting that their candidate was less than the messiah of the right.

Purely anecdotal and the weakest of point of all.

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Show us some crashing poll numbers or other such evidence - then we can talk about a fork-impaled Trump.

Until then, all this just appears to be wishful thinking.

 

[CPUd]

I drink your milkshake

 

[jkob]

that was just sad on Fox's part

 

[Dianne]

Who the hell gives a damn what O'Reilly says.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

hell's unicorn writes: "...Not to be rude, but every single person on this thread praising Donald Trump is a fucking idiot with extremely poor long-term memory....."



...not to be rude or anything, and while there are most likely some fucking idiots, anyone who sees any 'praise' here for trump is most assuredly one of the fucking idiots....

 

[RonPaulMall]

Trump's decision looking even better today with the revelation Fox has invited an illegal immigrant and an anti-Trump Muslim activist to be "guest" questioners for tonight's debate:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/dis...-and-mexican-dreamer-to-debate-to-bash-trump/

 

[Suzanimal]

 

[Fivezeroes]

Trump's decision looking even better today with the revelation Fox has invited an illegal immigrant and an anti-Trump Muslim activist to be "guest" questioners for tonight's debate:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/dis...-and-mexican-dreamer-to-debate-to-bash-trump/

Looks like Trump may have some spies inside of Fox, to know that this was coming.

 

[Dianne]

Trump's decision looking even better today with the revelation Fox has invited an illegal immigrant and an anti-Trump Muslim activist to be "guest" questioners for tonight's debate:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/dis...-and-mexican-dreamer-to-debate-to-bash-trump/

Wow, that's some chit there. Proof positive FOX News is in the tank for Hillary. FOX is listed as one of Hillary's top ten donors. I hope they are soon destroyed as there are many thousands who believe they are the voice of conservative journalism. I'm not a fan of Trump, but this type of ambush could happen to Rand as well.

 

[Fivezeroes]

Wow, that's some chit there. Proof positive FOX News is in the tank for Hillary. FOX is listed as one of Hillary's top ten donors. I hope they are soon destroyed as there are many thousands who believe they are the voice of conservative journalism. I'm not a fan of Trump, but this type of ambush could happen to Rand as well.

Not could, will, if he gains any traction.

 

[Dary]

Who the hell gives a damn what O'Reilly says.

O'Reilly

 

[CPUd]

Donald Trump Doesn’t Win in Cheap Seats at Rally

Jay Newton-Small @JNSmall

1:39 AM ET

Most of the time, reporters are kept quarantined from Donald Trump’s crowds. His anti-debate, pro-veteran rally at Drake University in Des Moines on Thursday night was no exception. The press was placed in a large ballroom behind the auditorium with the image of the rally piped in on a massive television. For all intents and purposes, we could have been covering the rally from home.

But just as the program began, I wandered out of the room and found stairs to the balcony. There were empty seats, so I sat down amidst the crowd, and decided to watch the event with them. I interviewed the six people closest to me.

Here’s what I learned: not one of them was likely to caucus for Trump on Monday.

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http://time.com/4199353/republican-debate-donald-trump-rally/

 

[Suzu]

Very good news!