Trump won't participate in Thursday's debate

[Peace&Freedom]

I think you are seriously deluded. He isn't boycotting over the media... He's staying away because he has too much to lose from a debate and very little (if nothing at all) to gain.

It's the same reason why Hillary pushed to limit the debates. (and why, now, she needs them)

Debates are not good for the frontrunners. It would be much better to just have the media repeat your name about a billion times before people go to the caucuses. That's exactly what they'll do for him. The media has been especially nice to Mr. Trump. Why would they stop now? Hillary hasn't won yet.

Trump was planning to attend until FOX sent out messages that reasserted their arrogance, so he responded in like manner. It had utterly nothing to do with his worrying about losing ground in the polls (as he has handled every previous debate no matter what got thrown at him), he's boycotting to object to FOX's bullying.

The point remains, last week I said Rand should have done the same, and it's still good that somebody did so. Please note, it is possible that Trump actually meant it when he declared Kelly was an incompetent reporter who asked irrelevant PC questions. His willingness to follow through and regularly confront or punish the media is one objective reason why he achieved frontrunner status as an outsider. Can we prefer Rand to Trump around here, without it distorting our intelligence as to who exactly is leading in the race, and why?

 

[jbauer]

AP is now reporting Trump will not debate and quoting his campaign manager saying Trump is out for sure.

If I was Rand I would tear Trump apart in primetime without any fear of Trump butting in.

Rand needs to stay away. He can't blame someone for taking their toys to a new sandbox when he did the exact same thing last time.

 

[jbauer]

I find it amusing that even here at rpfs you people can't resist talking about this fartbag.

I'd like to know more about fartbags? In fact a generic fartbag might make a better president then most who are running.

 

[Ender]

With Trump, it's not about the idea, it's about the person.

It's a great publicity stunt.

It will garner the Donald a massive amount of media and PR w/o him having to look like a fool in front of other candidates. He will get media mention 10 billion times more than if he were in the debates.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Rand needs to stay away. He can't blame someone for taking their toys to a new sandbox when he did the exact same thing last time.

No, Rand did not to the same thing. He declined to participate at the kiddie table. That is in no way shape or form storming off in a snit because he doesn't like a moderator.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

It's a great publicity stunt.

It will garner the Donald a massive amount of media and PR w/o him having to look like a fool in front of other candidates. He will get media mention 10 billion times more than if he were in the debates.

The PR boost would be part of a big one-two punch to the mainstream media. First he boycotts, thus costing FOX ratings, then he wins the caucuses Monday anyway, thus showing he doesn't need the MSM, and thereby breaking the hold of one leg of the establishment on the election racket.

 

[CaptUSA]

The PR boost would be part of a big one-two punch to the mainstream media. First he boycotts, thus costing FOX ratings, then he wins the caucuses Monday anyway, thus showing he doesn't need the MSM, and thereby breaking the hold of one leg of the establishment on the election racket.

Wow. Just. Wow.

In spite of all evidence to the contrary, you really believe that the establishment media wants to hurt Trump. And that Trump isn't helping them.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Wow. Just. Wow.

In spite of all evidence to the contrary, you really believe that the establishment media wants to hurt Trump. And that Trump isn't helping them.

Oh, you mean the NR pile on against Trump? Or, the effort to get Bloomberg in the race as a competing billionaire, to split the vote to prevent Trump from being elected? You mean, the tens of millions he lost in deals, when pressure groups squeezed his business interests over his immigration stance? Or do you mean that FOX really, really wants to lose ratings, and wants GOP candidates to be able to openly defy them? You mean all that evidence? And so on. I think you should rethink your understanding as to what the evidence points to.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

No, Rand did not to the same thing. He declined to participate at the kiddie table. That is in no way shape or form storming off in a snit because he doesn't like a moderator.

...both of them pissed on faux because they both feel (felt) faux is/was trying to embarrass them...

...and rand would be smart to be silent about donald trump... for many reasons....(but i suspect his apparent gd fool 'advisors' will tell him otherwise..)

 

[01000110]

Bob Barr on FBN just now, if I understood him correctly, just called Trump too chickenshit to go and debate Cruz. Called it a calculated move and has nothing to do with FoxNews or Megyn Kelly.

 

[fcreature]

The only reason Trump won't show up to this debate is because it does him no good. Has nothing to do with the moderators. He is the leader in the polls, his supporters will see this as a good thing and he won't lose support over it, and he avoids any more chances as fucking it up or getting made a fool of. There is no downside. To compare this to why Rand had to drop out is a completely false comparison.

 

[erowe1]

I'm not sure if anybody already shared this. But a Facebook friend posted it. It's a 2011 Fox and Friends video about a debate Trump was to moderate for Fox (I don't remember that happening, but I never watch these things).

“We're not seeing a lot of courage here, are we?”

In 2011, Donald J. Trump slammed GOP candidates for not taking part in a debate that he was going to moderate. Trump also praised Megyn Kelly saying, “You have done a great job”

https://www.facebook.com/foxandfriends/videos/1002132746540988/?pnref=story

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The only reason Trump won't show up to this debate is because it does him no good. Has nothing to do with the moderators. He is the leader in the polls, his supporters will see this as a good thing and he won't lose support over it, and he avoids any more chances as fucking it up or getting made a fool of. There is no downside. To compare this to why Rand had to drop out is a completely false comparison.

It does Trump no good to give in to media bullies. It helps him in the campaign, but that's just a side benefit. It has everything to do with the moderators, and not kissing their ring.

“He’s got a perfect right to drop out of the debate. They baited him, they taunted him and they disrespected him in a mock news release and he simply decided—look if that’s the way you are going to treat me go ahead have your debate and I’m not attending. I mean you got a perfect right to do that. CNBC I think has been dropped out of a debate because of the handling by the moderators. National Review has been dropped out of a debate after it launched an all out attack on Trump. And so Trump responds and says I’m not going to be in the debate. I think he’s made the right decision from his standpoint and I hope he stands by it.” ---Pat Buchanan, today

 

[hells_unicorn]

...both of them pissed on faux because they both feel (felt) faux is/was trying to embarrass them...

...and rand would be smart to be silent about donald trump... for many reasons....(but i suspect his apparent gd fool 'advisors' will tell him otherwise..)

You mean the way Ron Paul was silent about Trump's idiocy back in 2011?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/197011-ron-paul-rips-trump-boycotts-debate



Not to be rude, but every single person on this thread praising Donald Trump is a fucking idiot with extremely poor long-term memory. I though this was Ron Paul Forums, but I guess I was wrong.

 

[01000110]

I'm not sure if anybody already shared this. But a Facebook friend posted it. It's a 2011 Fox and Friends video about a debate Trump was to moderate for Fox (I don't remember that happening, but I never watch these things).


https://www.facebook.com/foxandfriends/videos/1002132746540988/?pnref=story

Donald says whatever serves Donald at the given time whether he believes it or not... the guy is full of crap.

 

[jkob]

Somebody said they were going to pound Trump with questions about infidelity, like ask how he felt about breaking families apart and other emotional blackmail type stuff, seemed like FNC had the hit planned out. Can't blame him if that is true, they'll spend all night talking about Trump anyways.

 

[erowe1]

Somebody said they were going to pound Trump with questions about infidelity, like ask how he felt about breaking families apart and other emotional blackmail type stuff, seemed like FNC had the hit planned out. Can't blame him if that is true, they'll spend all night talking about Trump anyways.

That's not blackmail. Those are questions he shouldn't be allowed to avoid answering.

 

[01000110]

That's not blackmail. Those are questions he shouldn't be allowed to avoid answering.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...%92s-%91many-affairs%92-in-lengthy-tweetstorm

 

[CPUd]

 

[jkob]

That's not blackmail. Those are questions he shouldn't be allowed to avoid answering.

Hillary would never be asked these questions, no other candidate would be asked the loaded questions they ask Trump and believe me if Rand had a chance they would be engaging in this same type of character assassination just as they did to his father when he threatened to win Iowa in 2012. **** the media.

What is so hard about asking all the candidates the same frickin' question about relevant issues? Same issue, same amount of time, don't even need a moderator asking it, but that's not WWE enough for cable news. The whole process is rigged.