Trump: "We're gonna have to send more weapons (to Ukraine)"

[Invisible Man]

No thats just incorrect.

Prior to the revolution they had just increased taxes to pay for Britain's war with France.

The taxes they passed werent 2%.

What were they. Give me the number.

 

[nikcers]

What were they. Give me the number.

A tax on every piece on paper and transaction and you have to house and feed the British troops and they can sell you to China?

Thats not a tax its slavery. Everything you own belonged to the king even your own body.

 

[vita3]

So Trump is now escalating Ukraine war & strengthens NATO..

 

[acptulsa]

They also advertise it for us when they dominate their adversaries with them.

In the end its like they work for us which means its a mutually beneficial relationship.

What the actual fuck went wrong with this piece of junk?

 

[nikcers]

What the actual fuck went wrong with this piece of junk?

Iraq? We warned them not to invade Kuwait. That was the United Nations Security Counsel that voted to go to war with Iraq.

George Bush Sr ordered a ceasefire and the conditions he gave Iraq were that they had to pay reparations and that Saddam Hussein couldn't remain in power.

We put sanctions on Iraq but Russia helped keep Saddam in power.

So Iraq violated the terms of the ceasefire that were in place we removed Saddam from power and forced them to pay reparations.

 

[acptulsa]

Iraq? We warned them not to invade Kuwait.

We already straightened this thing out on that subject. It's seriously programmed to repeat lies to people who have already demonstrated we know the truth.

It's nothing but an electronic cow. It's just a creator of bullshit. Only thing is, it wastes electricity instead of mowing the grass, and you can't eat it after you kill it. Don't get any leather, either.

Who thought inventing this crap was a good idea?

 

[nikcers]

We already straightened this thing out on that subject. It's seriously programmed to repeat lies to people who have already demonstrated we know the truth.

It's nothing but an electronic cow. It's just a creator of bullshit. Only thing is, it wastes electricity instead of mowing the grass, and you can't eat it after you kill it. Don't get any leather, either.

Who thought inventing this crap was a good idea?

Its not a lie. The US passed dozens of resolutions in the United Nations before we invaded Iraq demanding they pay reparations to Kuwait.

They refused to pay reparations and shot down our drones in response.

Saddam thought that Russia would keep him in power but he was wrong.

If he had just done what the Soviet Union did and set up a temporary government and transferred power to it so Iraq could hold elections and elect their own government we wouldnt have to have gone in there and forced him to do it. We transferred the power to the people and Iraq paid reparations.

 

[nikcers]

Trump says there are 17 patriot missle defense systems that could be made available.

According to MIT 17 is the least random number.

This is supposedly because, in a study where respondents were asked to choose a random number from 1 to 20, 17 was the most common choice. This study has been repeated a number of times.

17 can symbolize victory as well.

 

[acptulsa]

Its not a lie.

You're so full of bullshit that I'm thinking there's only one way to communicate with you:

Moo.

 

[Invisible Man]

A tax on every piece on paper and transaction and you have to house and feed the British troops and they can sell you to China?

Thats not a tax its slavery. Everything you own belonged to the king even your own body.

What's the percent?

Was it higher or lower than what we're taxed now?

 

[Invisible Man]

you were paying for someone else's god damn war

This line was offered as an example of what Americans had to do back in colonial days.

Please cogitate over this some more.

 

[acptulsa]

Please cogitate

It can't. It can only drop the bullshit it was programmed to drop. Over and over, even after it has been proven to be bullshit right under this mechanical bull's nose.

Moo.

 

[jmdrake]

This deserves a post of its own:

https://x.com/CCrowley100/status/1942336505428553912
{@CCrowley100 | 07 July 2025}

They are not serious about mass deportation.

What we are witnessing is exactly what any clear-sighted man could see from a mile away.

The world is and always has been ruled by elites. What defines an “elite” is contingent upon context, but by any traditional metric—ethnocultural, martial, or civilizational—our current managerial class of merchant oligarchs barely qualifies. Yet they hold power, and they hold it not despite the system, but through it.

In America, the popular will of the White majority has been cynically absorbed and redirected by one wing of the ruling duopoly. The Republican Party, far from being a vessel of revolt, is a pressure valve—a mechanism by which real grievance is sublimated into ritualized theater. They offer meaningless slogans and edgy memes, not solutions, not victories. Their function is not to overthrow the order, but to manage its slow and superficial decay.

This is elite theory in action: the absorption of opposition into controlled channels, the transmutation of dissent into spectacle. Mass immigration, demographic transformation, and the slow dissolution of the founding stock are not accidents. They are instruments. The system requires a compliant slave class, and it is importing one.

What once allowed the fiction of consensus—economic uplift, national identity, a shared cultural baseline—has collapsed. The financialization of the economy and the abstraction of life itself have severed all bonds between ruler and ruled. Those at the top are now openly hostile to those they claim to govern. They seek to replace you, not represent you.

And yet the illusion persists. The populist wave is acknowledged, but only to neuter it. Minor reforms are elevated as if they were acts of revolution. Performative outrage substitutes for action. You are meant to feel heard, so that you remain anesthetized and compliant. You are meant to rage, but remain docile. You are meant to vote, but never decide.

This is the function of the modern state: to simulate dissent while neutralizing it, to promise reversal while accelerating decline. You will hear about mass deportations, remigration, and whatever the buzzword of the week may be, but you will not see it. You will hear about national renewal, but receive only more bureaucracy, more migrants, more decay.

You will be told you are winning—winning so much you’ll be tired of winning—even as you vanish from the nation your ancestors built.

This is not a failure of the system. It is the system. And it will not stop unless it is replaced.

The real tragedy is treating mass deportation as some sort of worthwhile goal in the first place. That was NEVER a platform of Ron Paul. That was Tom Tancredo's platform and he did worse in the 2008 primary than Dr. Paul. Yet, somewhere along the way, "End The Fed" turned into "build the wall." Only Trump was NEVER serious about this. In 2015, for reasons unknown to me, immigration became THE issue for the GOP. Not ending the wars. Not balancing the budget. Not holding the corporate kleptocracy that caused the 2008 economic crisis accountable for a damn thing. Not ending the surveilance state. Not a more sensible foreign policy of "friendship and trade with all, entangling alliances with none." Not ending the war on drugs. Not even repealing the National Firearms Act. Nope. If we could just get "muh wall" and "muh mass deportation" everything would be fine.

 

[nikcers]

The real tragedy is treating mass deportation as some sort of worthwhile goal in the first place. That was NEVER a platform of Ron Paul. That was Tom Tancredo's platform and he did worse in the 2008 primary than Dr. Paul. Yet, somewhere along the way, "End The Fed" turned into "build the wall." Only Trump was NEVER serious about this. In 2015, for reasons unknown to me, immigration became THE issue for the GOP. Not ending the wars. Not balancing the budget. Not holding the corporate kleptocracy that caused the 2008 economic crisis accountable for a damn thing. Not ending the surveilance state. Not a more sensible foreign policy of "friendship and trade with all, entangling alliances with none." Not ending the war on drugs. Not even repealing the National Firearms Act. Nope. If we could just get "muh wall" and "muh mass deportation" everything would be fine.

It was part of Ron Paul's platform in 2008. You can't erase that from history.

He said there may come a time when you would have to treat immigration like an invasion and voted as a congressman for border security.

What no one is talking about is the humanity of detaining illegal immigrants.

A lot of them cant afford to eat or a roof in this economy. The world is moving to automation and we have a jobs and housing shortage because of this.

There is no way to change our economy to accommodate for the 100s of millions of economic refugees that would come if our doors were left open.

 

[Invisible Man]

A lot of them cant afford to eat or a roof in this economy. The world is moving to automation and we have a jobs and housing shortage because of this.

More automation results in making it easier for everyone to afford to eat and have a roof, not harder.

 

[nikcers]

More automation results in making it easier for everyone to afford to eat and have a roof, not harder.

No it doesn't because we feed people based on labor participation. People get housing based on labor participation.

We dont feed people who dont help make the food in our culture.

So our country can either invest in automation and the costs of automation or we can invest in human labor.

Other developed countries are going to have to make the same choice and the undeveloped countries will have huge populations of people that no longer can sell their labor to developed countries.

 

[Invisible Man]

No it doesn't because we feed people based on labor participation. People get housing based on labor participation.

And automation does not result in less labor participation by people. It merely results in more production. The amount of demand for work to be done by human beings that other people are willing to pay for always has been and always will be infinite.

 

[nikcers]

And automation does not result in less labor participation by people. It merely results in more production. The amount of demand for work to be done by human beings that other people are willing to pay for always has been and always will be infinite.

No it doesnt just result in more jobs if the number of jobs that can be automated outpaces the amount of more jobs 20 to 1.

 

[TheTexan]

No it doesn't because we feed people based on labor participation. People get housing based on labor participation.

Automation doesn't mean jobs go away, it just means they're more productive.

Instead of 20 workers working at 1 factory, you might have 5 workers each at 4 factories. They all still have jobs. They're just producing 4x as many things.

There is an unlimited demand for "more stuff". Human labor is always* going to be the bottleneck in supplying that demand.

(* at least until the robots conquer and exterminate us)

Of course -- none of this works for us if all the factories are in China.

 

[Invisible Man]

No it doesnt just result in more jobs if the number of jobs that can be automated outpaces the amount of more jobs 20 to 1.

The number of jobs is infinite. So that is not a possibility.

Now what could, and does, actually result in limiting the number of jobs human beings can be hired to do is regulations. Things like the minimum wage. But take those artificial restrictions out and let the market work, and there will always be jobs. And getting paid a dollar a day to be somebody's umbrella carrier won't be a problem for anyone when automation results in a house getting built for a dollar.