Trump to address LP 2024 national convention

[fisharmor]

It's virtually impossible to earn a large amount of wealth "by yourself". They either benefit vicariously by monetary depreciation (asset inflation), or they depend on others to work or consume for them. This is why we're not going to see change in our lifetimes through any political process. It's too entrenched, and the ideology is embraced by many of its own victims.

Yes. That is part of what I was saying. DJT is hardwired to use other people for his own purposes. It's essentially sociopathy.

 

[Snowball]

If you take a lowball of his net worth, 4.7bn, then that means you're saying real estate has increased over 1000 fold in the last 50 years.

413 million x 10 is 4.13 billion. Much real estate has gone up much more than 10x.
Passing off losses to investors and using Chapter 11 to fund your lifestyle is nothing to be proud of.

 

[fisharmor]

413 million x 10 is 4.13 billion. Much real estate has gone up much more than 10x.
Passing off losses to investors and using Chapter 11 to fund your lifestyle is nothing to be proud of.

Yeah we're talking past each other. I agree, it's nothing to be proud of.
By saying that, you're agreeing that it is what is. It's all legal, it's all above board, and it's how he at least maintains his wealth, irrespective whether he gained any more.
What I'm trying to get across is that this is the wavelength his brain is on. He doesn't give a shit about liberty, he doesn't give a shit about the Republican party, he doesn't give a shit about any of the things SS talks about here.
He's doing his own thing. He's figured out how to do that and still have the people working for his companies to essentially like him - he knows how to spend the minimum amount of time and money scratching their backs in order to get his agenda progressed.
He blew that up into a nationwide scam and it worked.

I can't see any other reason for him to go to the LP convention. Mark my words: he's going to say things like "ok I agree with you on that point and I'm very in favor of that". He's not going to repeat anything back to anyone. All he's going to do is give the same hollow assurances that have gotten him this far in life.
A large number of people are going to believe him, and he's going to walk away with votes.

 

[acptulsa]

I can't see any other reason for him to go to the LP convention. Mark my words: he's going to say things like "ok I agree with you on that point and I'm very in favor of that". He's not going to repeat anything back to anyone. All he's going to do is give the same hollow assurances that have gotten him this far in life.
A large number of people are going to believe him, and he's going to walk away with votes.

The only difference between this, and the way he tweeted things in favor of nearly every side of nearly every issue in 2016, is that we're important enough to him to warrant a personal appearance this time.

Somehow, though, I can't shake the feeling that he's not coming hat-in-hand. He plans to discredit libertarians some way or another. I'm not kidding when I say it wouldn't surprise me to hear the word "losertarian" before he's through. We've certainly seen enough evidence of how his fanbois think of us.

I don't think he feels he needs our numbers, but something about the influence we exert is demanding his personal attention.

I think he's trying to stage a Daniel in the Lion's Den moment to try to give himself the appearance of alphaness again.

 

[Occam's Banana]

BTW, I saw the merch of which McArdle speaks, and the Donald Hair t-shirts make no sense to me.

If this isn't one of them, it should be:

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1785824739501523120

 

[Snowball]

Yeah we're talking past each other. I agree, it's nothing to be proud of.
By saying that, you're agreeing that it is what is. It's all legal, it's all above board, and it's how he at least maintains his wealth, irrespective whether he gained any more.
What I'm trying to get across is that this is the wavelength his brain is on. He doesn't give a $#@! about liberty, he doesn't give a $#@! about the Republican party, he doesn't give a $#@! about any of the things SS talks about here.
He's doing his own thing. He's figured out how to do that and still have the people working for his companies to essentially like him - he knows how to spend the minimum amount of time and money scratching their backs in order to get his agenda progressed.
He blew that up into a nationwide scam and it worked.

I can't see any other reason for him to go to the LP convention. Mark my words: he's going to say things like "ok I agree with you on that point and I'm very in favor of that". He's not going to repeat anything back to anyone. All he's going to do is give the same hollow assurances that have gotten him this far in life.
A large number of people are going to believe him, and he's going to walk away with votes.

Yup. He's going because he wants every .005% he can get.

 

[fisharmor]

Yup. He's going because he wants every .005% he can get.

We're eight years into this guy's involvement in national politics, and you still think he thinks like you.
He doesn't think like you.
There is some other reason for him going.
Either you're wrong about that number, or there's something else.

Note that I never said he was going to get votes from convention attendees.

 

[acptulsa]

We're eight years into this guy's involvement in national politics, and you still think he thinks like you.
He doesn't think like you.

That's the problem. People can't wrap their minds around sociopathy. Oh, on some level they realize that narcissistic personality disorder exists. But they don't get it. And this leads to chutzpah. They look at a homeless schizophrenic and decide they can spot these other insane mentalities just as easily.

The fact that they can't understand sociopaths is to their credit. But that particular bit of chutzpah has led to the spectacular failure of representative government.

 

[Snowball]

We're eight years into this guy's involvement in national politics, and you still think he thinks like you.
He doesn't think like you.
There is some other reason for him going.
Either you're wrong about that number, or there's something else.

Note that I never said he was going to get votes from convention attendees.

He's so worried about every smidgen that he'd rather see Biden win than RFK Jr., because he thinks RFK Jr. is going to hurt him on the vax.
I stand my my contention. Libertarians are not going to vote for the Democrat. Trump is there to get .003% if he can. Swing states may come down to that.
If you think he's going for a reason unconnected to getting votes, tell us what it is....

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh, the rest like to pretend they earned it. Trump is certainly no exception to that. He is just like every other silver spoon brat, except for the degree of his narcissism.

So now you have a problem with people growing wealth and accumulating wealth and then passing it on to their children?

And I have an "odd lens"...

 

[acptulsa]

So now you have a problem with people growing wealth and accumulating wealth and then passing it on to their children?

And I have an "odd lens"...

I wasn't talking about Fred. I was talking about his narcissistic brat. If you thought otherwise, yes, your lens sucks.

 

[oyarde]

Alrite now , were is list of libertarian party concerns and autor ?

 

[Anti Globalist]

Seems like Trump is only doing this so he can try and gather a decent amount of libertarians to vote for him.

 

[buck000]

Alrite now , were is list of libertarian party concerns and autor ?

As of 2345 CT:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NbD7BfIYOZZowoseeFg0Uxshk0B_ZRlX/view?usp=drivesdk

 

[unknown]

Clear difference between the two.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Clear difference between the two.

Cherry picked bunk, deliberately leaving out all the important differences..
And that Trump list is filled with stuff that isn't true or leaves out important details of the difference.

 

[acptulsa]

Cherry picked bunk, deliberately leaving out all the important differences..

You think they're important. I don't care what icing shitcake has on it.

 

[CaptUSA]

Trump Heads To The Libertarian Convention | Part Of The Problem 1120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYLrfGidakk
{Dave Smith | 05 May 2024}

On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie talk about Donald Trump's booking at the Libertarian National Convention, what they want to see from it, and some advice for the audience and Donald Trump himself.

 

[CaptUSA]

 

[acptulsa]

Apparently they're going to have somebody who's vying for the nomination on stage with him, having something between a debate and a discussion. I'd much rather see Michael Rectenwald do that than that guy.