Trump threatens to withhold endorsement for Republicans who oppose his rescissions package

Hey @CaptUSA , if elections were next week, would you still vote for Trump [again]?
If the options were the same?? Absolutely.

You see, as bad as all of this is, it was always my expectation. But my expectation of the alternative was way worse. Not only would there be no rescission packages, the overall spending would have been even higher.
 
If the options were the same?? Absolutely.

You see, as bad as all of this is, it was always my expectation. But my expectation of the alternative was way worse. Not only would there be no rescission packages, the overall spending would have been even higher.

Like I've been saying all along...

B'bye 'Merika, nice knowin' ya. Don't come back now, ya hear?
 
Like I've been saying all along...

B'bye 'Merika, nice knowin' ya. Don't come back now, ya hear?

Ain't it the truth?

Better the scum-sucking, child-molesting, savings-robbing, wage-destroying, firefighter-shooting, bullshit-spewing, population-bombing, mass-enslaving, citizen-spying, evidence-destroying evil you know than taking a chance on something unknown that might even be, you know, something good.

God forbid we take a chance on that.
 
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Ain't it the truth?

Better the scum-sucking, child-molesting, savings-robbing, wage-destroying, firefighter-shooting, bullshit-spewing, population-bombing, mass-enslaving, citizen-spying, evidence-destroying evil you know than taking a chance on something unknown that might even be, you know, something good.

God forbid we take a chance on that.
Where was "that"? Because I only saw the trade-off between 2 bad options. But apparently you guys have been keeping this alternative viable strategy a secret.
 
Where was "that"? Because I only saw the trade-off between 2 bad options. But apparently you guys have been keeping this alternative viable strategy a secret.

Thomas Massie: "Noncompliance Is More Effective Than Voting"
Henry David Thoreau: "Disobedience Is The True Foundation Of Liberty"
Ron Paul: Doesn't vote. Neither do I.

Keep voting, @CaptUSA , don't let me hold you up from the next episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians 👍
 
Because I only saw the trade-off between 2 bad options.

No, you saw just what the psyop was set up to show you, a truly -- and obviously -- terrible, abysmal option, and an option slickly sold (ask Corey at what price) as counter-cultural despite having been in office and financed Big Pharma's Science Experiment. And you got downright nasty with people who tried to point out what should have been obvious.

It was a seriously slick psyop. It got lots and lots of people. No wonder it left the LP floundering in the grip of the CIA, unable to muster the numbers to overcome the spooks. But at some point, we have to set aside the emotions and admit we were had. Otherwise they're going to do it to us again. If there's anything at all left to save in 2028...

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And you got downright nasty with people who tried to point out what should have been obvious.
Dude, you're so full of shit. I don't care if you vote or don't vote. It is YOU that is constantly on the attack. I just point out that you provide ZERO viable alternative. That's not "nasty", it's a defense of a different way of viewing the problem. A VERY libertarian approach, BTW, since we're all different individuals. It is YOU who get "nasty" name-calling anyone who takes ten minutes in a voting booth to indicate a preference.

Perhaps you need to check your premises.
 
Where have I heard that before..?
Uh... Nice try...

Let's add the context, shall we???
You aren't much of a chess player, are you?

Why bury it in which press? The alt-right branch of the MSM? What's buried?

In the traditionally leftist MSM? To give useful idiots selling points, of course. Of course. When did you fall off the turnip truck?
:rolleyes: Alright, man. You're a little too far gone with the TDS. I'm stopping this.
One of us was being nasty with the name-calling. And one of us stopped participating.
 
And this time I'm the one. While partisans bicker...

What people did to fix this mess didn't. They aren't going to give us an easy way out. If we're going to stop them, we have to stop lapping up their pablum and create our own alternative.
 
If we're going to stop them, we have to stop lapping up their pablum and create our own alternative.
Then DO THAT! For crying out loud, present the alternative! We're not "lapping up the pablum" - we're clear eyed as to what's going on. If we were presented with a better alternative, we'd jump on it in a heartbeat! That's why we're in RPF. But until that time, I'll look for the best trade-offs available and hope the opportunities stay open for my kids and grandkids.
 
LOL

Look who's opposing budget cuts, again.
Do you remember what Ron Paul once said about the right and wrong way to go about fiscal responsibility and reductionism. He was very wise and much more so than you me or Trump. He said that you had to cut the things first that didn’t affect poorer and middle class persons who had been born into the dependency. It had to be a systematic weaning from the welfare.
Trump has gone about this the absolute wrong way and if he was smart he would have weaned the rich off their welfare first.
 
For crying out loud, present the alternative!

Well, I do my damndest. But each time I hear, won't work. I guess alternatives are in the eye of the beholder.

The momentous events of the moment always outweigh the long term. That's what they count on every election. No one is willing to set an example which others can join with next time because they stir us up and convince us things are too terrible now to ignore the bone they offer to throw us. That's why the psyop works time after time.

The alternative is, do something different, tell everyone you know something different has to be tried, set an example by refusing to settle for the status quo no matter how many LWMSM and RWMSM propaganda outlets scream that the barbarians are at the gate.

There is no easy way out. This is the only key, this and some work at creating some kind of other structure.

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I don't have any alternative that is as easy as sticking to business as usual and hoping we really get thrown the bone we were promised. I don't know what kind of superhero you think I am, but I cannot create one by myself -- especially while people are buying the conventional manipulation. "Go ahead, throw your vote away! Bwahahahaha!

 
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and if he was smart

And/or if he had any motivation whatsoever to improve our lot.

So long as we can have this conversation now, but cannot have this conversation in the heat of an election year, the evil will keep winning.

This problem is clearly going to take something more than, "Why don't you join us in overwhelming the greater evil!?!" during election season and "Why didn't you present us with a simple, prepackaged, viable, easy alternative on a silver platter when we needed one!?!" in between elections. Isn't that obvious?
 
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The problem is, they have to stay extreme, especially during an election year.
 
But until that time, I'll look for the best trade-offs available and hope the opportunities stay open for my kids and grandkids.

Their trade-offs are all designed to land our kids and grandkids in slavery. And we won't prevent that unless and until we take that fact to heart.

Just look at the title of this thread. They're herding us like sheep. When all the MSM, both the left and right wing branches, are trying to keep you in your herd, it's time to bolt and hope someone follows.

Being effective is no bonus if the only effect you help bring about is in no way what you want and need.

Limiting ourselves to their "solutions" sells our kids and grandkids into slavery. Every damned time.

"The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln
 
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