Trump Threatens Killing NAFTA + A Government Shutdown Over Wall Funding

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Trump Threatens Killing NAFTA + A Government Shutdown Over Wall Funding
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...rnment-shutdown-over-wall-funding-killing-naf


Delivering a warning to Democratic lawmakers who have objected to his plans to construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico frontier,
Trump called them “obstructionists” and said that it was time for the U.S. to crack down on illegal immigration.

"If we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall,”
Trump told thousands of supporters gathered in Phoenix for a campaign-style rally.
“One way or the other, we’re going to get that wall.”


The president also said he might terminate the North American Free Trade Agreement at some point:

"Personally, I don't think we can make a deal because we have been so badly taken advantage of.
They have made such bad deals, both of the countries, but in particular Mexico, that I don't think we can make a deal.
So I think we'll end up probably terminating Nafta at some point.
I personally don't think we can make a deal without termination, but we'll see."

 

[Raginfridus]

I can't find the number, only indications "much" of the Texas border is privately owned. Even if just an acre of property here and there are robbed for the fence, consider what that means for ranchers, who would need to find another water source, maybe miles away, when a river banks on the acre that was robbed. I'm unconvinced coyotes will be all that deterred by wilderness barriers, because there's too much money to be had in human trafficking. If Trump really wants to curb illegal immigration, end our covert wars in South and central America, then crack down on corruption and largess. Install bureaucrats who will actually prioritize hunting illegals and human traffickers, by whatever laws do apply. Finally, he can judge whether we need more fence, and where that might be. Otherwise, while DHS are busy chewing their own nuts, illegal immigration will adapt and nothing will change.

Texas Wildlife Association

 

[Ender]

Get rid of entitlements and immigration will not be a problem- but hey, can't do something simple & cost effective, now can we?

 

[Swordsmyth]

I'm agnostic on the wall but I hope we get the shutdown and the end of NAFTA, we need both.

 

[liveandletlive]

"well see"........100 dollars that Jared or some other "expert" is gonna convince Trump to keep NAFTA

 

[Swordsmyth]

"well see"........100 dollars that Jared or some other "expert" is gonna convince Trump to keep NAFTA

I'm hoping he demands so much from Canada and Mexico that they walk away from the table and it collapses.

 

[angelatc]

I'm agnostic on the wall but I hope we get the shutdown and the end of NAFTA, we need both.

Agreed but the shutdown will only fuel the Democrats. It's a damned shame the GOP has all 3 houses and still cannot get anything done.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I'm hoping he demands so much from Canada and Mexico that they walk away from the table and it collapses.

Yay higher taxes?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yay higher taxes?

Yay end of NAFTA Crony Capitalism.

 

[twomp]

Agreed but the shutdown will only fuel the Democrats. It's a damned shame the GOP has all 3 houses and still cannot get anything done.

You speak as if the GOP and Democrats are different parties.

 

[AuH20]

Build the wall. The entitlement system is on legalized autopilot once they cross an arbitrary line.

 

[Danke]

Lasers on tethered airships along the border. No wall necessary.

 

[oyarde]

Lasers on tethered airships along the border. No wall necessary.

They would shoot them with drones armed with flare guns .

 

[RonZeplin]

I can't find the number, only indications "much" of the Texas border is privately owned.

None of the US border is privately owned. Teddy Roosevelt created a 100 foot strip along the border that is Federal property.

 

[Ender]

You speak as if the GOP and Democrats are different parties.

'Zactly!

 

[Pauls' Revere]

No NAFTA and a shutdown = a WIN, WIN.

 

[Champ]

Grinding the government to a halt and accomplishing next to nothing through a bitter legislative branch aided and amplified by an insane msm, could make Trump the best President in almost 100 years if you look at him from the Warren G. Harding and William Henry Harrison angle.

 

[Raginfridus]

None of the US border is privately owned. Teddy Roosevelt created a 100 foot strip along the border that is Federal property.

Easements to access the river are being pulled, and property owners are losing land. Keep in mind the border isn't a pancake, and water treaties have to be respected (while the rights of private citizens aren't).

The U.S.-Mexico border runs almost 2,000 miles long, about two-thirds of which follows the path of the Rio Grande in Texas. A range of barriers already exists along much of the non-riparian borders of California, Arizona and New Mexico. These barriers were built during the Bush II and Obama administrations pursuant to the 2006 Secure Fence Act. Although parts of the border in Texas also have barriers of some kind, the majority of the construction of President Trump’s border wall would likely occur in Texas.

But building a wall along the Rio Grande is challenging for several reasons, and this presents potential opportunities for landowners to receive increased compensation. Some 95% of the land along the River is privately owned. The land around the River is protected by several treaties. A 1906 pact bars construction in the River’s floodplains. A 1970 treaty set the international boundary at the midpoint of the River and prohibits construction of anything that could deflect or obstruct the water flow. Because the border is determined by the River, artificially altering the water flow with construction on or near the river could impermissibly alter the border. Furthermore, the physical characteristics of the land along the River vary widely: from verdant farmland, to desert, to craggy mountains, to lakeside resort, to urban and suburban development. Moreover, the River sometimes floods.


As a result, in most, if not all, of Texas, the wall cannot be built on the actual border—which lies in the middle of the river—and any “border” wall would likely need to be constructed as much as a mile or more inland. This will cut many properties in two pieces, and perhaps leave some property owners in a “no-man’s land” north of the border but south of the wall.

https://www.pillsburylaw.com/en/news-and-insights/border-wall-eminent-domain-battle.html

The Wall is nothing more than a token, if our covert wars don't end. Like it or not.

 

[The Northbreather]

Get rid of entitlements and immigration will not be a problem- but hey, can't do something simple & cost effective, now can we?

This ^^

 

[Origanalist]

Am I the only person that remembers Trump promised Mexico would pay for the wall? That whole thing just disappeared down the memory hole?

Or is it one of those 'we have to build it to see who pays for it' kind of things?