Trump: "Ron Paul is a joke"

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Donald Trump Fights Back: ‘Ron Paul Is A Joke’ And George Will Is ‘Third-Rate’

by Colby Hall | 8:10 am, December 5th, 2011 video

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-t...paul-is-a-joke-and-george-will-is-third-rate/

Donald Trump appeared today on his regularly scheduled Monday morning Fox and Friends segment and fought back against critics who have vocally railed against plans for the self-proclaimed billionaire and reality show television host to moderate a GOP debate sponsored by Newsmax, a conservative media outlet. A combative Trump specifically called out conservative columnist George Will, and continued his habit of insulting the presidential aspirations of Ron Paul, calling his campaign a joke.

There was almost an immediate backlash when news broke last Friday of Trump’s plans to moderate a debate. I wrote that no serious candidate should participate in a debate hosted by Trump, which would make a mockery out of an institution already low in credibility. Those thoughts were echoed by Will, who said on ABC News’ This Week that this was an opportunity “to do something presidential, stand up and say, ‘we’re not going to be hijacked and participate in this.”

When asked to opine on Will’s comments, Trump said:

I’ve read George Will over the years. He’s third-rate and makes so many wrong predictions and if you just follow the predictions, you’ll find out he shouldn’t be doing what he does. I didn’t read this. You’re telling me this for the first time. The fact is that they came to me and they asked me — very powerful group and some others came to me — and some major Republicans, and asked me if I’d do it. I think we’ll have tremendous viewership and probably get the highest ratings on the debate, which is important when you’re trying to get a message out and, you know, somebody said — I think it was Ron Paul — I’m a reality star and I shouldn’t do it. I’m not a reality star. What I am is a businessman who runs a business, a tremendous business, I write about it in the book and even disclose my financial numbers in the book for the first time… that nobody has ever seen before.

Ron Paul wasn’t the first candidate to openly proclaim that he wasn’t going to attend (that would be Jon Hunstman) but he did call participation in a Trump moderated debate “beneath the office of the Presidency.”

Trump and Paul supporters have a bit of a history; Trump famously told fans of the libertarian Texas Congressman that Paul had no chance of winning the presidency at a CPAC convention. When asked by Gretchen Carlson if he, “cared to continue the fight this morning?” Trump replied:

I don’t care. Ron Paul is not going to win. He’s got no chance. You have a better chance right now of winning. It’s a joke. He’s a joke. Here’s a man that wants — does he care if Iran has a nuclear weapon that can wipe out Israel? He doesn’t care. ‘Let them do whatever they want. They can make their own nuclear weapons.’ It’s ridiculous. So he’s not going to win. He’s not going anywhere.

Thus far only Newt Gingrich has openly accepted an invitation to participate in Trump’s debate, though many believe that Michele Bachmann will follow suit, since she has suggested selecting Trump as a possible running mate. Whether or not other candidates will boldly decide to bow out, or participate in what many believe will be a charade of political discourse, remains to be seen.
 
The founder of the Ludwig von Mises Institute is backing Trump even though he said those meen dings about Ron Paul. Note that Lew probably has very little in common with the Donald politically, but clearly sees the big picture.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/why-donald-trump-matters/

Read Erick Ericson’s column. As a populist, Donald attracts all those who have been kicked in the teeth by the system, and despise its politicians. Plus nobody is afraid that Don would rob the treasury. And Ericson also says that Trump is a sweet guy in private, the soul of courtesy to his employees. Politics is a haven for the sort of man who makes himself feel important by abusing those who can’t respond, like the creepy Santorum.

BTW, Limbaugh said today he wished the [neo]conservatives would go after Hillary the way they’ve gone after Trump.
 
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Ron Paul was my litmus test for media shills. Most of them would not argue Ron's points but rather lies, hyperbole, and strawmen. It still turns my stomach.

F- Trump!
 
Ron Paul was my litmus test for media shills. Most of them would not argue Ron's points but rather lies, hyperbole, and strawmen. It still turns my stomach.

F- Trump!

What if Ron was a controlled opposition ?
 
What if Ron was a controlled opposition ?

What if you are?

But maybe you are right. Maybe Ron Paul and his message are the conspiracy and Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, FOXNEWS, MSNBC, CBS, (etc. etc and etc.) who lied about him are the true resistance to tyranny.
 
The founder of the Ludwig von Mises Institute is backing Trump even though he said those meen dings about Ron Paul. Note that Lew probably has very little in common with the Donald politically, but clearly sees the big picture.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/why-donald-trump-matters/

Trump is no populist anti-hero.

I cannot conceive of a "billionaire populist" anyways.

He is an authoritarian gasbag, cut from the same cloth as his pal, Mike Doomberg.
 
Trump is no populist anti-hero.

I cannot conceive of a "billionaire populist" anyways.

He is an authoritarian gasbag, cut from the same cloth as his pal, Mike Doomberg.

Trump is a populist anti-hero because he wants to be POTUS. For this reason, he will fight like a wounded animal to win. It is an intersection of goals. Trump wants the presidency for legacy purposes and we will enjoy while he rips the two party system apart. And to be serious, I don't think they will allow him to be president.....
 
The founder of the Ludwig von Mises Institute is backing Trump even though he said those meen dings about Ron Paul. Note that Lew probably has very little in common with the Donald politically, but clearly sees the big picture.
Shame on Lew if he's really backing that poo sack.
 
I don’t care. Ron Paul is not going to win. He’s got no chance. You have a better chance right now of winning. It’s a joke. He’s a joke. Here’s a man that wants — does he care if Iran has a nuclear weapon that can wipe out Israel? He doesn’t care. ‘Let them do whatever they want. They can make their own nuclear weapons.’ It’s ridiculous. So he’s not going to win. He’s not going anywhere.

It's funny that this pisses people here off, and yet we have bent down to the precise philosophy that Trump was saying. We have given up the message in order to win.

So everyone who chastises others for dissent concerning Rand because "we have to win" needs to realize that they have become the Donald and are siding with all those media shills that laughed at Ron.

Shame on those in the R3volution who have done this.
 
What if you are?

Maybe I am, but I do not have much influence.

But maybe you are right. Maybe Ron Paul and his message are the conspiracy and Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, FOXNEWS, MSNBC, CBS, (etc. etc and etc.) who lied about him are the true resistance to tyranny.

What if there is no resistance ? What if you are just wishing there were ? What if this site is just a performance art project for the Texas Chicken Company ?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?191056-Who-is-Texas-Chicken-Company
 
Shame on Lew if he's really backing that poo sack.

Lew never said he agrees with Donald Trump, but rather that Trump is the disruptive candidate that we need right now.
 
Maybe I am, but I do not have much influence.



What if there is no resistance ? What if you are just wishing there were ? What if this site is just a performance art project for the Texas Chicken Company ?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?191056-Who-is-Texas-Chicken-Company

People should just start using their real faces. I had always planned on doing this when the time came. Real agents often are sock puppet accounts. It's just economical to have one person run many accounts. So if you see a real face, you can always force an identity check with a video or something.

The forum, when it was the old days, was full of real faced avatars, not this anonymous coward crap in the guise of decadent nihilistic crap.

EDIT: I don't mean sock puppet as in person A on the forum is person B on the forum. I mean the poster is A on forum B, X on forum C, E on forum F, therefore doesn't use real face to avoid being spotted in two places contradicting themselves.
 
People should just start using their real faces. I had always planned on doing this when the time came. Real agents often are sock puppet accounts. It's just economical to have one person run many accounts. So if you see a real face, you can always force an identity check with a video or something.

The forum, when it was the old days, was full of real faced avatars, not this anonymous coward crap in the guise of decadent nihilistic crap.

EDIT: I don't mean sock puppet as in person A on the forum is person B on the forum. I mean the poster is A on forum B, X on forum C, E on forum F, therefore doesn't use real face to avoid being spotted in two places contradicting themselves.

Ultimately this is why it is so important to realize the Lord is in control.

You shouldn't worry about who the agents are. Simply follow the commands of Christ.

The Tao/Logos/Word will guide you in the darkest of shadows.
 
So if Trump runs against Hillery our choices will be, to vote for a Democrat or vote for a Democrat.

Great what could go wrong with that?
 
It's funny that this pisses people here off, and yet we have bent down to the precise philosophy that Trump was saying. We have given up the message in order to win.
You sort of missed what I was ranting about "lies, hyperbole, and strawmen."

I don’t care. Ron Paul is not going to win. He’s got no chance. You have a better chance right now of winning. It’s a joke. He’s a joke. Here’s a man that wants — does he care if Iran has a nuclear weapon that can wipe out Israel? He doesn’t care. ‘Let them do whatever they want. They can make their own nuclear weapons.’ It’s ridiculous. So he’s not going to win. He’s not going anywhere.

So everyone who chastises others for dissent concerning Rand because "we have to win" needs to realize that they have become the Donald and are siding with all those media shills that laughed at Ron.
And Rand hasn't won me over. There's a good chance I won't vote this election.
 
You won't get a rise out of me. I'm probably as cynical as you. :)

I don't place my trust in men even if it is Ron Paul. But when I see one who consistently speaks the truth (Ron) and paid shills who consistently lie about what Ron Paul stands for, I tend not to have nothing but scorn for them.

Maybe I am, but I do not have much influence.



What if there is no resistance ? What if you are just wishing there were ? What if this site is just a performance art project for the Texas Chicken Company ?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?191056-Who-is-Texas-Chicken-Company
 
It's funny that this pisses people here off, and yet we have bent down to the precise philosophy that Trump was saying. We have given up the message in order to win.

Trump was attacking Ron's message as much as he was attacking his polling.

Supporters of Ron's message, even if they thought his strategy was unlikely to succeed, would not say such things about him, would they?
 
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