Trump rejects Project 2025

Brian4Liberty said:

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The problem with all the trump fearmongering is we already had 4 years of trump. How many of the bad things on that list did he do in his last 4 years?

We should complain about the things trump actually did badly, not the made up stuff.

How about the fact that trump oversaw the doubling of the swamp instead of draining it.
 
Anti Federalist said:
2024 GOP PLATFORM
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

https://cdn.nucleusfiles.com/be/beb...e2d7f8bedf/2024-gop-platform-july-7-final.pdf

1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION

2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY

3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN

4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!

5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!

7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS,
INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR
ARMS

8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A
GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA

9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG
VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS

11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL
AGAIN.

12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST
AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD

13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY

14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO
CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS

16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER
IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR
CHILDREN

17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS

18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN

19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS,
AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP

20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
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These 3:

8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A
GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA

11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL
AGAIN.

12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST
AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD

14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO
CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

Contradict these 2:

3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN


13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY
 
Swordsmyth said:
Deer can only jump so high.
And coyotes are not going to hoist little girls over one fence and into a minefield with another fence on the other side, and if they do that's on them.

You are just making up nonsense to heart bleed until we can't do anything about the millions of "poor struggling refugees" Criminal economic migrant invaders.
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:rolleyes: You think landmines are more human than humans with guns because landmines will be inside a fence. Got it. That's a retarded position but got it. I put more trust in a human being to make the correct decision to shoot or not shoot than a freaking mine. And, as Ron Paul has said, the real purpose of this mined fence may be to keep Americans in once the dollar truly goes to shyt. But of course you'll just ignore what Ron Paul said on that because....reasons. You'll pretend that Americans will never need to retreat from a tyrannical American government because...reasons.
 
LibertyEagle said:
I don’t know if I agree about Dubya. A lot because of his rotten to the core, father. One of them knew about PNAC, because almost every person in Jr’s cabinet was from there.
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Fair enough.

Trump made a couple good, but mostly horrible appointees. I think he tried to bring in who he thought were the smartest people he knew to advise him on the economy (yes, I know, we all would have picked differently), but he did pick General Flynn, who seemed to be anti-war. The others, I don’t think he had any idea and took who Chrispy Cream suggested to him. I remember back then asking Ron Paul to please advise him on this. But back then, Ron’s position was to not. I was glad Rand was willing to get in Trump’s ear when he could.
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I can't blame Ron for staying as far away from Trump as possible. I get Rand trying to make the best of a bad/imperfect situation.

That said, if he chooses what’s her face for his VP, I am not voting for him. I hadn’t done my due diligence on her, but at first glance, I was kinda hoping for Noem. But, after she shot herself in the foot, she isn’t going anywhere.
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Yeah. Nikki Haley is awful. I shudder to imagine either her or Kamala Harris a heartbeat away from the presidency. I'm hoping for Tim Scott who, while imperfect, I don't think is evil. LOL @ Kristi Noem. I think she thought she would rack up "tough girl" points with the "I shot my dog and my goat" story. She killed her career as fast as Mel Gibson and Ryan Garcia and they were both drunk and/or high at the time.
 
acptulsa said:
What about moles? Won't somebody please think of the poor prairie dogs?



A millennial child.

Um, news flash: Back when children were allowed out-of-doors, they used to figure out how to climb fences all on their own.
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Or....someone will just pry open a whole in the fence and let the little children run through.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qpfrs2kNbAE?feature=share

And if it was a real invasion they'd just fly over the fence and the mines with paramotors like Hamas.
 
jmdrake said:
Fair enough.



I can't blame Ron for staying as far away from Trump as possible. I get Rand trying to make the best of a bad/imperfect situation.



Yeah. Nikki Haley is awful. I shudder to imagine either her or Kamala Harris a heartbeat away from the presidency. I'm hoping for Tim Scott who, while imperfect, I don't think is evil. LOL @ Kristi Noem. I think she thought she would rack up "tough girl" points with the "I shot my dog and my goat" story. She killed her career as fast as Mel Gibson and Ryan Garcia and they were both drunk and/or high at the time.
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I think I would rather have Ben Carson than Scott.
 
MYTHS VS. FACTS ABOUT PROJECT 2025

We are not affiliated with former President Trump. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations.


1. End no fault divorce: FALSE


Divorce is not mentioned in our policy handbook, Mandate for Leadership.


2. Complete ban on abortions without exceptions: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership calls for the government to comply with laws that prevent federal funding of abortion. It also calls for federal support for alternatives to abortion, including adoption.


3. Ban contraceptives: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership says nothing about banning or restricting contraception.


4. Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%: MISLEADING


Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans, to stimulate economic growth and put more money in Americans’ pockets.


5. Higher taxes for the working class: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans. Individuals spend their money in more productive ways than the government does.


6. Elimination of unions and worker protections: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership presents different ideas about a conservative labor policy. It calls for combatting the excesses of the Deep State’s bloated federal employee unions, which have ensured that federal employees keep their jobs even if they engage in illegal behavior or perform their jobs poorly.


7. Raise the retirement age: FALSE


Raising the retirement age is nowhere advocated in Mandate for Leadership.


8. Cut Social Security: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership does not advocate cutting Social Security.


9. End Affordable Care Act: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership offers policy suggestions to curb the abuses of the Affordable Care Act.


10. Raise prescription drug prices: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership offers proposals to lower drug prices through competition and innovation.


11. Eliminate the Department of Education: TRUE


Mandate for Leadership calls for an end to the Department of Education. Since the Department was created, educational outcomes have not improved, and the American school system has increasingly fallen behind other countries. Giving more control back to state and local governments and expanding school choice would improve education outcomes for all Americans, especially underprivileged communities. Some functions of the Department would be moved to other departments including Labor, Justice, and Commerce.


12. Use public, taxpayer money for private religious schools: TRUE


Americans are able to use taxpayer money to choose where they shop for groceries, attain housing, and obtain higher education. Religious schools often outperform public schools, and families should have the choice to send their children to these schools.


13. Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership advocates for all educational opportunities, and for parental rights in education.


14. End free and discounted school lunch programs: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership advocates that the Food and Nutrition Service be moved from the Department of Agriculture to the Department of Health and Human Services. Mandate condemns the Biden administration’s decision to threaten schools that do not comply with radical transgender policies by taking away their funding for school meals for needy students. Additionally, Mandate supports prioritizing school meal programs for those students who are truly needy, not creating an entitlement for almost all students regardless of family income levels.


15. End civil rights and DEI protections in government: MOSTLY FALSE


Mandate for Leadership calls for respecting the civil rights of all Americans, including those who have been censored by the government or had it weaponized against them. Mandate advocates for the end of divisive, race-based, anti-American propaganda in the federal workforce.


16. Ban African American and gender studies in all levels of education: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership does not mention African American studies or gender studies.


17. Ban books and curriculum about slavery: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership does not advocate for banning books or curriculum about slavery.


18. Ending climate protections: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership advocates policies that will produce economic growth through abundant, affordable energy. Famers, hunters, and fishers know how to protect our environment better than D.C. bureaucrats. The Biden administration’s relentless focus on climate has made America less competitive and wasted crucial taxpayer dollars.


19. Increase Arctic drilling: TRUE


The Arctic is of immense strategic importance to America. Mandate for Leadership advocates a strong pursuit of American interests in the region, through economic freedom, through ensuring free and open shipping lanes, and through the development of the vast energy resources of the Arctic.


20. Deregulate big business and the oil industry: MOSTLY TRUE


America needs energy that is plentiful and affordable. Mandate for Leadership calls for an all-of-the-above energy policy that would promote the development of our domestic energy supply, and for fewer burdensome regulations for ALL businesses.


21. Promote and expedite capital punishment: TRUE


The appropriateness of capital punishment divides Americans, and conservatives, of good will. Mandate for Leadership calls for the enforcement of the federal death penalty where appropriate and applicable, and recommends a future presidential administration pursue the death penalty for the most heinous crimes, including those involving violence and the sexual abuse of children, unless Congress says otherwise through legislation.


22. End marriage equality: FALSE


The legal recognition of same-sex marriage is not discussed in Mandate for Leadership. Mandate calls for the protection of faith-based grant recipients who maintain support for the traditional definition of marriage. Mandate also supports conscience protections for those who do not wish to participate in same-sex marriages.


23. Condemn single mothers while promoting only “traditional families”: FALSE


Mandate suggests that a future HHS Secretary replace the policies of the Biden administration that prioritize LGBTQ+ equality, subsidize single motherhood, disincentivize work, and penalize marriage with policies that instead encourage marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.


24. Defund the FBI and Homeland Security: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership supports de-weaponizing the federal government, including the FBI. Mandate’s chapter on the Department of Homeland Security advocates the legislative creation of a standalone Cabinet-level agency with a focus on the border and immigration, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CPB), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR), and the Office of Immigration Litigation (OIL). It also recommends that legislation be pursued to move other component parts of DHS to other agencies, including the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of the Treasury, and the FBI.


25. Use military to break up domestic protests: FALSE


The “protests” referenced in Mandate for Leadership are protests in Iran against its anti-American leadership; and protests of parents at school board meetings in opposition to critical race theory and COVID mandates. Both protests are referenced positively. Mandate also protests the FBI’s harassment of protesting parents and condemns the arrest by armed FBI agents of a man who had protested at an abortion clinic a year earlier.


26. Mass deportation of immigrants and incarceration in “camps”: MISLEADING


Mandate supports an orderly and lawful immigration system. It advocates that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Office of Removal Operations be primarily responsible for enforcing civil immigration regulations, including the removal of those who have violated our immigration laws. It also calls for additional resources to put an end to President Biden’s border crisis and enforce immigration laws.


27. End birthright citizenship: FALSE


There is no mention of ending birthright citizenship in Mandate for Leadership.


28. Ban Muslims from entering the country: FALSE


There is no mention of banning Muslims from entering the United States in Mandate for Leadership.


29. Eliminate federal agencies like the FDA, EPA, NOAA and more: FALSE


Mandate for Leadership’s plan would not eliminate the FDA or the EPA, and NOAA’s functions would be transferred to other agencies, the private sector, and states and territories.


30. Continue to pack the Supreme Court and lower courts with right-wing judges: FALSE


The only people calling for packing the judiciary are those on the Left, who do it every time the Supreme Court or a lower court makes decisions they don’t like.
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Invisible Man said:
There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism..
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Just wanted to check and make sure you knew Ron Paul wasn’t in favor of globalism. Because he knows it would be the latter. How do I know that? Because Ron Paul spoke at the Birch Society’s annual gala for years, took their magazine and has said he never found anything he disagreed with. Dr. Paul isn’t a globalist.
 
dannno said:
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Sabbath Rest. God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest, and until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day. Rest. God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest, and until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day. Moreover, a shared day off makes it possible for families and communities to enjoy time off together, rather than as atomized individuals, and provides a healthier cadence of life for everyone. Unfortunately, that communal day of rest has eroded under the pressures of consumerism and secularism, especially for low-income workers. l Congress should encourage communal rest by amending the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)9 to require that workers be paid time and a half for hours worked on the Sabbath. That day would default to Sunday, except for employers with a sincere religious observance of a Sabbath at a different time (e.g., Friday sundown to Saturday sundown); the obligation would transfer to that period instead. that communal day of rest has eroded under the pressures of consumerism and secularism, especially for low-income workers. l Congress should encourage communal rest by amending the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)9 to require that workers be paid time and a half for hours worked on the Sabbath. That day would default to Sunday, except for employers with a sincere religious observance of a Sabbath at a different time (e.g., Friday sundown to Saturday sundown); the obligation would transfer to that period instead. Houses of worship (to the limited extent they may have FLSA-covered employees) and employers legally required to operate around the clock (such as hospitals and first responders) would be exempt, as would workers otherwise exempt from overtime.​

Straight up violation of the non establishment clause of the 1st Amendment. That's a hard no for me the same was an assault weapons ban would be a hard no for everybody else on this forum. The fact that they make an allowance for Saturday observance is irrelevant.
 
I would support defunding fbi ,epa , homeland sec, eliminating affordable care act and ending fed climate crap, ending birthright citizen, race based practices etc so Im way more extreme than these nazis
 
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oyarde said:
I would support defunding fbi ,epa , omeland sec, eliminating affordable care act and ending fed climate crap, ending bitrite citizen, race based practices etc so Im way more extreme tan dese nazis
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Not the CIA? I’d add that one. Plus, get us out of the UN, NATO, World Bank, BIS, and every other international organization.
 
acptulsa said:
Because he tried to do the one, and did not lift a finger to do the other. Didn't even mention it was going on.

True story.
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That's a lie and you know it.
I already proved it to you multiple times:


Trump claimed, without any supporting evidence, that Democrats were behind the caravan, and raised conspiracy theories that the Central Americans had been paid to come to the United States for political reasons.
“Now we’re starting to find out – and I won’t say it 100%, I’ll put a little tiny question mark at the end. But we’re probably not going to need it, but we have the fake news back there,” he told the crowd, adding a familiar jab at news reporters covering his campaign appearances.
“A lot of money’s been passing through people to come up and try to get to the border by election day, because they think that’s a negative for us. Number one, they’re being stopped. And number two, regardless, that’s our issue.”
Trump appeared to be referring to a video posted by the Florida representative Matt Gaetz, which he claimed showed women and children being given cash to “storm the US border @ election time”. He suggested without evidence that the source could be “Soros? US-backed NGOs?” referring to George Soros, an American billionaire who is the frequent subject of rightwing conspiracy theories.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...me-no-evidence


Former President Donald Trump has said that during his presidency, he cut federal funding to three Central American countries in order to "punish" them. He said he wanted to punish them immigrants kept coming from their countries to seek entry into the United States.


During a Thursday night interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Ingraham played a clip of Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In the clip, Pelosi said that Trump had withdrawn funding from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador—three countries that make up a region called the Northern Triangle—in order to punish them.
Ingraham asked, "Mr. President, did you withdraw money from Central America to punish them?"
"Absolutely. That's right," Trump replied.
"We were paying them $500 million a year," Trump told Ingraham. "Nobody knew what they were doing with the money, and they were sending criminals to our country."


"They abused us in so many different ways," Trump continued. He then accused the countries' leaders of refusing to accept murderers and members of the violent MS13 gang that had been caught at the southern U.S. border by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection.
"They wouldn't take them. I stopped paying the $500 million that we were wasting when giving it to them," Trump continued.


At the end of March 2019, the Trump Administration announced that it was cutting nearly $450 million in direct funding to the countries because of their failure to stop emigration.
The Northern Triangle is the primary source of migrants to the United States. The immigrants largely flee their region to escape high murder rates, gang violence, low employment as well as a lack of access to food, necessities and social services. Recent droughts and hurricanes have worsened conditions in the region.
The direct funding cut off by Trump had sought to stem migration from the region by helping the countries politically and economically stabilize in an effort to reduce migration caused by violence and corruption.


The program paid millions to dozens of local and international nongovernmental organizations (NGOs). These organizations conducted development and humanitarian programs on the U.S. government's behalf.
However, because the countries had failed to reduce migration, Trump cut off the funds as a punishment. When the funding ended, many NGOs had to scale back their programs or end them prematurely, closing offices and laying off staff, according to NPR.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...sed-us-1578913
 
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