Trump promises a deal in Ukraine and Russia conflict

[Matt Collins]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/27/politics/trump-zelensky-meeting/index.html

 

[sparebulb]

If we get to that point, I think that Trump will be advised to offer Putin the same deal that Zelenskyyyy and our State Department has been offering: Get out of Ukraine, including Crimea, NATO expansion and forfeiture of their seized assets for "rebuilding Ukraine".

Just watch how Biden's war gets adopted by the orange one.

 

[Matt Collins]

If we get to that point, I think that Trump will be advised to offer Putin the same deal that Zelenskyyyy and our State Department has been offering: Get out of Ukraine, including Crimea, NATO expansion and forfeiture of their seized assets for "rebuilding Ukraine".

Just watch how Biden's war gets adopted by the orange one.

I don't think so. The one thing Trump is generally good on is foreign policy and he seems to be fairly anti-war, for the most part. Trump has no ties to the MIC and understands war is bad for commerce. He is a businessman, not a neocon govt hack.

Also Trump's base is opposed to this nonsense in Ukraine.

This is also why I don't think the powers that be will ever let him back into office. Too many people making too much money off of the Ukrainian intervention and Trump will likely shut that down. They have tried twice and failed but I suspect they will keep trying.

 

[TheCount]

Is this like the Iran deal that he promised?

 

[sparebulb]

I don't think so. The one thing Trump is generally good on is foreign policy and he seems to be fairly anti-war, for the most part. Trump has no ties to the MIC and understands war is bad for commerce. He is a businessman, not a neocon govt hack.

Also Trump's base is opposed to this nonsense in Ukraine.

This is also why I don't think the powers that be will ever let him back into office. Too many people making too much money off of the Ukrainian intervention and Trump will likely shut that down. They have tried twice and failed but I suspect they will keep trying.

We will see.

The one thing that will be out of his hands is what level of involvement Biden will get us into that will prevent Trump from extricating before he enters office. Think that little gem in Somalia that Bush left for Klinton, except much, much worse.

This is all academic in that Trump is far from certain in winning the "election".

 

[PAF]

The one thing Trump is generally good on is foreign policy and he seems to be fairly anti-war, for the most part. Trump has no ties to the MIC and understands war is bad for commerce. He is a businessman, not a neocon govt hack.

You forget that during that time [Covid, OWS], WARS were placed on "temporary hold". It was absolutely critical to have complete "global compliance" by all nations of the world to allow for one of the largest transfers of wealth in history.

Exceptions could not be made for military personnel, transportation of equipment, bans on travel, or news media covering people's suffering. Otherwise "global compliance" would not work, nor would the transfer of wealth.

So if you believe that Trump was anti war during his first term, it was only because the "global compliance agenda" was a much higher priority during that time. It had absolutely nothing to do with Trump being "anti war".


Now that plandemic is over, one only needs to see his positions on China, Iran, Israel.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't think so. The one thing Trump is generally good on is foreign policy and he seems to be fairly anti-war, for the most part. Trump has no ties to the MIC and understands war is bad for commerce. He is a businessman, not a neocon govt hack.

Also Trump's base is opposed to this nonsense in Ukraine.

This is also why I don't think the powers that be will ever let him back into office. Too many people making too much money off of the Ukrainian intervention and Trump will likely shut that down. They have tried twice and failed but I suspect they will keep trying.

Trump will 100% greenlight Israel's war with Lebanon. The war in Ukraine needs to end in order to fully fund the next war.

 

[69360]

If we get to that point, I think that Trump will be advised to offer Putin the same deal that Zelenskyyyy and our State Department has been offering: Get out of Ukraine, including Crimea, NATO expansion and forfeiture of their seized assets for "rebuilding Ukraine".

Just watch how Biden's war gets adopted by the orange one.

I don't believe that.

I think Trump told Zelensky that if Trump wins you get no more weapons or money. So give Putin what he wants or lose your whole country.

This isn't because Trump is anti war, it's because Trump has a personal grudge against Zelensky.

 

[sparebulb]

I don't believe that.

I think Trump told Zelensky that if Trump wins you get no more weapons or money. So give Putin what he wants or lose your whole country.

This isn't because Trump is anti war, it's because Trump has a personal grudge against Zelensky.

I sincerely hope you are correct.

 

[dannno]

https://x.com/townhallcom/status/1839679111918174230

 

[charrob]

Zelensky: Trump Assured Me He Would Support Ukraine

I don't think so. The one thing Trump is generally good on is foreign policy and he seems to be fairly anti-war, for the most part. Trump has no ties to the MIC and understands war is bad for commerce. He is a businessman, not a neocon govt hack.

Also Trump's base is opposed to this nonsense in Ukraine.

This is also why I don't think the powers that be will ever let him back into office. Too many people making too much money off of the Ukrainian intervention and Trump will likely shut that down. They have tried twice and failed but I suspect they will keep trying.

It's very difficult to read Trump. This article just came out:

Zelensky: Trump Assured Me He Would Support Ukraine

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told Fox News that former President Donald Trump reassured him that Washington will maintain its support for Kiev should he return to the White House.

The Ukrainian leader said Trump made the remarks when the two met last week. “I don’t know what will be after [the] elections and who will be the president … But I’ve got from Donald Trump very direct information that he will be on our side, that he will support Ukraine,” he said.

Last week, Zelensky traveled to the US and met with Trump, Vice President Kamala Harris, and President Joe Biden to present Ukraine’s “victory plan.” The Wall Street Journal reports that senior US and European officials say the proposal contains no clear path to victory for Ukraine.

The plan was described as offering nothing new, and repackaged several old requests for more weapons and permission to use them in Russia. “I’m unimpressed, there’s not much new there,” one official told WSJ.

While Democrats have targeted Trump as an apologist for Russian President Vladimir Putin and not supportive enough of Ukraine, the former president has supported sending arms to Ukraine. During his term in the Oval Office, Trump authorized arms transfers to Kiev, something his predecessor Barack Obama refused to do out of fear of crossing Moscow’s redlines.

Earlier this year, a massive $60 billion aid package for Ukraine was stalled in Congress. Several key figures in the debate report that Trump broke the deadlock when he threw his support behind the aid.

Although Trump has claimed he would end the war if elected in November, he has not outlined a plan for accomplishing that. Instead, he has repeatedly stated the 2022 invasion would not have occurred if he had been president. Trump also insisted on Wednesday that Zelensky should have made a peace deal with Putin shortly after the war began.

https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/zelensky-trump-assured-me-he-would-support-ukraine/

 

[Occam's Banana]

THREAD: Trump's meeting with Zelensky