Trump Press Conference Q&A on Charlottesville

[acptulsa]

Out of sheer curiosity and going in a tangentially related direction, do we have statistics on extremist-caused deaths in the US? Like, the percentages based on ideology/political affiliation? It's easy to say the side you disagree with is the most violent, but does that hold up in the face of scrutiny?

All the U.S. numbers are cooked.

But we know your commie idol Stalin killed twenty million in his gulags, making Chief Nazi Hitler's six million look like chump change. Does that help?

That applies much more directly to these two groups of psychos than any arbitrarily applied 'Left' or 'Right' horse$#!+.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Out of sheer curiosity...

"Sheer curiosity." LOL. Another game player here. I barely heard of you until yesterday.

Consult your friends at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Make sure you include the far left violence of the 1970s.

 

[Schifference]

Where some of the people armed? Who brought guns? Where any shots fired? How come?

 

[Krugminator2]

Out of sheer curiosity and going in a tangentially related direction, do we have statistics on extremist-caused deaths in the US? Like, the percentages based on ideology/political affiliation? It's easy to say the side you disagree with is the most violent, but does that hold up in the face of scrutiny?

The overwhelming majority of people in prison are leftists. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/cruz-on-violent-criminals-and-democrats/

Only 9% of felons registered Republican when they got out of prison. The estimate is 73% vote Democrat.

And it is easy to see in the news. The political violence is almost entirely from leftists. And to the extent there has been violence from someone on the right it is almost always a leftist showing up to where they are wanted getting in someone's face and provoking the violence. You don't see right wingers going to leftist rallies and picking fights. Yes, there is the odd attack like Timothy McVeigh. But for every Timothy McVeigh there are 10 people like Christopher Dorner. People on the left are inherently violent.

 

[timosman]

Well, that Freudian slip sure was something.

"Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us?"

At least he's comfortable admitting that he's a Nazi.

Also, I'm still not sure what the "alt-left" is aside from a made up phrase to make false equivalencies easier. We know "alt-right" is just rebranded white supremacy/neo-Nazism, but I'm not aware of any leftist attempt at rebranding anti-Nazism. They kind of relish in their opposition to Nazism with a name like Antifa.

When did he say that? Are you making shit up?

 

[acptulsa]

Where some of the people armed?

Yes.

Who brought guns?

Entire 'right wing' militias.

Were any shots fired?

Nope.

How come?

Because the gun control advocates only attacked in the gun free zones. They'd have liked to attack everywhere, but they haven't turned the whole U.S. into a gun free zone yet.

The armed areas of the march were the polite areas.

 

[AuH20]

While I don't disagree with Amash, are very fine people allied with Antifa? What is wrong with calling out violent Communists? Almost certainly the leftists were the ones who provoked the reaction. They are violent people pounding on cars, blocking traffic and screaming. Trump saying both sides are bad seems like a very good point.

Amash is the worst. He may as well get CATO stamped on his forehead.

 

[Antischism]

The overwhelming majority of people in prison are leftists. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/cruz-on-violent-criminals-and-democrats/

Only 9% of felons registered Republican when they got out of prison. The estimate is 73% vote Democrat.

And it is easy to see in the news. The political violence is almost entirely from leftists. And to the extent there has been violence from someone on the right it is almost always a leftist showing up to where they are wanted getting in someone's face and provoking the violence. You don't see right wingers going to leftist rallies and picking fights. Yes, there is the odd attack like Timothy McVeigh. But for every Timothy McVeigh there are 10 people like Christopher Dorner. People on the left are inherently violent.

I'm speaking strictly of murder and extremism since the debate has revolved around neo-Nazis and AntiFa — like how there are statistics for death at the hands of Muslim extremism.

When did he say that? Are you making $#@! up?

He didn't. That was a transcript error that I posted. My apologies.

 

[Schifference]

Yes.



Entire 'right wing' militias.



Nope.



Because the gun control advocates only attacked in the gun free zones.

Does the non use of guns that were available show great restraint for the person that carried the guns?

 

[acptulsa]

I'm speaking strictly of murder and extremism since the debate has revolved around neo-Nazis and AntiFa — like how there are statistics for death at the hands of Muslim extremism.

So, Antifa has been around maybe a year and the neo-Nazis so long John Belushi made fun of them, but you're already curious to see if they passed them?

Does the non use of guns that were available show great restraint for the person that carried the guns?

Well, they weren't in handcuffs...

 

[Anti Federalist]

Out of sheer curiosity and going in a tangentially related direction, do we have statistics on extremist-caused deaths in the US? Like, the percentages based on ideology/political affiliation? It's easy to say the side you disagree with is the most violent, but does that hold up in the face of scrutiny?

I researched this a few years back.

From 1900 forward, in the United States, IIRC the vast majority of incidents of politically motivated violence have been done at the hands of leftists/anarchists/communists.

That is excluding Islamic terrorism which is much much greater than both combined. (at least in numbers dead, due to 9/11)

 

[Antischism]

So, Antifa has been around maybe a year and the neo-Nazis so long John Belushi made fun of them, but you're already curious to see if they passed them?



Well, they weren't in handcuffs...

Within the past 10-15 years, preferably. AntiFa has been around in the US since the 80s, though. Granted, they went by a slightly different name.

 

[Schifference]

If police were present, weren't they fearful for their lives/safety?

 

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

for a guy that said he was outta here, and with a name like antishism, you sure been tryna stick around and cause rifts, amigo !

 

[acptulsa]

Within the past 10-15 years, preferably. AntiFa has been around in the US since the 80s, though. Granted, they went by a slightly different name.

So we're ignoring Anti-Fed's answer to our question?

If police were present, weren't they fearful for their lives/safety?

I'm sure the one sitting next to the incompetent, hot dog helicopter pilot was.

 

[RJB]

Love him or hate him, that man has a set of balls. I pray he has a set of brains as well. With Trump, I have had the feeling he is playing the part of his character from the Apprentice. I am never sure what is an act or what is his character. It will be an interesting next few years.

 

[timosman]

He didn't. That was a transcript error that I posted. My apologies.

I hope those are sincere. Please be careful in the future to not misstate facts as some might take you for a troll.

 

[V-rod]

Love him or hate him, that man has a set of balls. I pray he has a set of brains as well. With Trump, I have had the feeling he is playing the part of his character from the Apprentice. I am never sure what is an act or what is his character. It will be an interesting next few years.

The guy has been toying with running for President since the mid 1980's. He picked the perfect time to jump into politics. Not too old, right atmosphere to rile up groups, etc. He's had a core set of beliefs that hasn't, at least publicly, changed much for decades. His skill set was developed over decades, and I want to research some of his 1980-1995 influences he had. From much of the footage out there, his public demeanor seemed changed a lot after the mid 90's.

If he went on a one-sided condemnation, and ignored violence and vandalism of groups like Antifa, the neo-liberal establishment would still hate him, and he would slowly lose support from his base.

 

[Noob]

 

[Schifference]

I have read someplace that Trump lacks self confidence. This guy goes up against everybody. He is not concerned with being politically correct or what people think or say about him. If he is concerned he does not let that stop him from speaking his mind.