Trump Picking Pence As Running Mate

I am not defending this...but did Ronald Reagan really want George H. W. Bush?

Regardless, we got Bush as a president eventually. And his son. And 9/11 and the Department of Homeland Security and the surveillance state and the Iraq War and Afghanistan and Al Qaeda and ISIS and Bataclan and Nice. Could Pres. Clinton be much worse?

One or two more terrorist acts on Western soil in the next 3 months and Trump/Pence is our president regardless. It's funny how this pattern always plays out.
 
Reagan was a charismatic puppet.

In the beginning of his campaign I believe he believed he could make a difference. When he was elected (by a landslide), in his first 100 days he was making a difference. Then John Hinkley took a shot at him. Just sayin'
 
Reagan was a charismatic puppet.

Getting shot 3 months into your term tends to dim one's enthusiasm. Reagan was a huge disappointment but it wasn't as clearcut as you think.
 
In the beginning of his campaign I believe he believed he could make a difference. When he was elected (by a landslide), in his first 100 days he was making a difference. Then John Hinkley took a shot at him. Just sayin'

Nancy knew. Nancy hated the Bushes.

http://www.infowars.com/why-nancy-reagan-hated-the-bush-family/

Wayne Madsen Reports was told by a longtime national security aide to then-President Ronald Reagan that First Lady Nancy Reagan told White House staff that “I never want to see the Bushes again.”

The comment came after Bush family friend John Hinckley attempted to assassinate Reagan on March 30, 1981, some seven weeks after the presidential inauguration. Mrs. Reagan apparently was convinced that Vice President George H W Bush and Second Lady Barbara Bush were somehow connected to the assassination attempt.
 
Again, not sure what Trump intended with Pence as his running mate, but it's certainly not changing minds.
 
Regardless, we got Bush as a president eventually. And his son. And 9/11 and the Department of Homeland Security and the surveillance state and the Iraq War and Afghanistan and Al Qaeda and ISIS and Bataclan and Nice. Could Pres. Clinton be much worse?

Yes, that is the point I am driving here. Preordained, regardless. Bush Sr. lied us into war, so did Bush Jr., they got this endless wars going. Clinton and Bush are nearly one in the same. It makes no difference.
 
I am going to go out on yet another limb and say I do not believe Pence will be the VP choice, either. This may be wishful thinking! But, in my last limb-going I not only predicted "not-Gingrich" but also "be a surprise". At this point Pence would not be a surprise -- Google and other news outlets have been announcing as fact Pence as VP for all day today.

I have my own idea on who it will likely be, and my own hopes of who would be a great pick (a plethora of fantasy picks, actually). Not the same, by the way. We'll see tomorrow! What a show that's being put on for us.

Welp, I sure got that wrong! I guess wishes don't always come true just because you want them to. Who knew?

My guess was that it would be Scott Brown, about whom everyone had forgotten. I guess they'd forgotten for a reason.
 
The choice of Pence was terrible, especially in terms of Trump's three biggies of restricting immigration, opposing globalist trade deals, and opposing nation-building interventions like Iraq (Pence voted for amnesty, supported TPP and voted for the Iraq war). The only two things that may redeem it is Trump chose him to fortify and energize social conservatives behind him (Pence is like picking Cruz, without the sleaziness or the constitutionally unqualified issues), and picking him shuts up the establishment donors, without changing the actual agenda Trump intends to pursue.

Trump may well have considered the matter of "assassination bait" involved in picking an establishment favorite, and deliberately picked the lamest and most unexciting one he could tolerate as his running mate, to neutralize the elite as much as possible. Pence is an evangelical, after all, and that factor is the real reason why the establishment did not warm up to Cruz in the primaries. The IN Governor also did not look like he was going fare well in his reelection, which does not fit the winning profile the elite wants in its Presidential figureheads. It is thus improbable that Pence (absent a barbell accident) will be ever following Trump as President, and reversing his policies.
 
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Getting shot 3 months into your term tends to dim one's enthusiasm. Reagan was a huge disappointment but it wasn't as clearcut as you think.

Oh, I completely understand- he wasn't obeying properly- same as JFK.
 
LOL. The neocon spin is already turning negative now. "Trump should have picked a woman or minority." Something tells me there was a push by some for Condi the neocon behind the scenes.
 
The choice of Pence was terrible, especially in terms of Trump's three biggies of restricting immigration, opposing globalist trade deals, and opposing nation-building interventions like Iraq (Pence voted for amnesty, supported TPP and voted for the Iraq war). The only two things that may redeem it is Trump chose him to fortify and energize social conservatives behind him (Pence is like picking Cruz, without the sleaziness or the constitutionally unqualified issues), and picking him shuts up the establishment donors, without changing the actual agenda Trump intends to pursue.

Trump may well have considered the matter of "assassination bait" involved in picking an establishment favorite, and deliberately picked the lamest and most unexciting one he could tolerate as his running mate, to neutralize the elite as much as possible. Pence is an evangelical, after all, and that factor is the real reason why the establishment did not warm up to Cruz in the primaries. The IN Governor also did not look like he was going fare well in his reelection, which does not fit the winning profile the elite wants in its Presidential figureheads. It is thus improbable that Pence (absent a barbell accident) will be ever following Trump as President, and reversing his policies.
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There ya go... Keep rationalizing things in your head. Instead of looking at what Trump has just done, look at what YOU think he might have really been doing that he just doesn't want to tell everyone else. This method of consuming information has worked so well so far this primary season.
 
The choice of Pence was terrible, especially in terms of Trump's three biggies of restricting immigration, opposing globalist trade deals, and opposing nation-building interventions like Iraq (Pence voted for amnesty, supported TPP and voted for the Iraq war). The only two things that may redeem it is Trump chose him to fortify and energize social conservatives behind him (Pence is like picking Cruz, without the sleaziness or the constitutionally unqualified issues), and picking him shuts up the establishment donors, without changing the actual agenda Trump intends to pursue. .


Cruz has a way better voting record. cool story.
 
The choice of Pence was terrible, especially in terms of Trump's three biggies of restricting immigration, opposing globalist trade deals, and opposing nation-building interventions like Iraq

That's because the only people who thought those were Trump's 3 biggies were former Ron Paul supporters who made believe that Trump agreed with them when he never did.
 
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