Trump Picking Pence As Running Mate

I dont think Trump is really an "outsider". He just represents a different set of "insiders", which is a threat to the current set of "insiders".
 
Pence's track record makes him sound like the evil spawn of Dick Cheney.

So far, this is turning out to be the most warmongering ticket that we've ever had in the USA.

Anyhow, LE & dannno will be posting the Molyneux videos that will make this brilliant choice all make rational sense in 3... 2...

Are you trying to pick another fight? If so, why?
 
Oh please, you don't go around with your little infraction pad slapping peoples hands when they call Clinton supporters names. People can call Obama, and Sanders supporters names and nothing happens. But talk about the Trump supporters and its time for you to crack out that whip? I guess we all know who you are voting for this November. Which is fine because this is your site. Just don't give me that whole "aw shucks, be nice act." The only people who get banned these days are people who don't support that authoritarian you all love so much. Make America great again!!

What more do you want? He already said in the very reply you quoted "including not supporting Trump" and he even put a big banner on the upper right of the page saying as much.

It is almost like the anti-Trump crowd behaves like the RINO establishment and Bryan the anti-establishment candidate trying to placate them always get burned in the process.

Your assessment of moderation here is false. Example - I do not promote Trump here but because I get attacked for agreeing with some of his policies or saying I chose to vote for him for various reasons has put me on the receiving end of many attacks. For which when I finally do say something back I have been temp banned multiple times, received many infractions and have had many of my posts deleted or censored.

Yet the people that do so like you I never see get banned. So your assessment of moderation here is false.
 
Oh please, you don't go around with your little infraction pad slapping peoples hands when they call Clinton supporters names. People can call Obama, and Sanders supporters names and nothing happens. But talk about the Trump supporters and its time for you to crack out that whip? I guess we all know who you are voting for this November. Which is fine because this is your site. Just don't give me that whole "aw shucks, be nice act." The only people who get banned these days are people who don't support that authoritarian you all love so much. Make America great again!!

Oh we get infractions we just don't cry about them.
 
Oh please, you don't go around with your little infraction pad slapping peoples hands when they call Clinton supporters names.
Did you get an infraction or any other mod level action for this? No, I replied like anyone else can.


People can call Obama, and Sanders supporters names and nothing happens. But talk about the Trump supporters and its time for you to crack out that whip?
The same principles apply. Generic name calling a group isn't against the guidelines, it is against our Community Values, however.

I guess we all know who you are voting for this November.
As I stated in my message to you, I do not support Trump. I certainly won't vote for him.

The only people who get banned these days are people who don't support that authoritarian you all love so much. Make America great again!!
People get banned for violating the guidelines, which includes promoting Trump. It would be counter to our mission to ban people who don't support Trump for no other reason.
 
Well considering how toxic Trump is he had very few choices of experienced politicians so he just went with the safest "do no harm" from among those. Considering Pence would have probably even lost his reelection bid for governor it is no wonder he accepted the VP slot. Of course Kasich would turn it down as he still has a politicial future and could run in 2020.

I mean seriously the other possibilities were people like Gingrich and Christie. Really slim pickings of no future politicians.
 
Well considering how toxic Trump is he had very few choices of experienced politicians so he just went with the safest "do no harm" from among those. Considering Pence would have probably even lost his reelection bid for governor it is no wonder he accepted the VP slot. Of course Kasich would turn it down as he still has a politicial future and could run in 2020.

I mean seriously the other possibilities were people like Gingrich and Christie. Really slim pickings of no future politicians.

He hasn't chosen anyone at this point. He's supposed to announce his choice tomorrow.
 
Well considering how toxic Trump is he had very few choices of experienced politicians so he just went with the safest "do no harm" from among those. Considering Pence would have probably even lost his reelection bid for governor it is no wonder he accepted the VP slot. Of course Kasich would turn it down as he still has a politicial future and could run in 2020.

I mean seriously the other possibilities were people like Gingrich and Christie. Really slim pickings of no future politicians.

You need to reassess your political knowledge if you think Kasich can ever win a nomination.
 
What I think is irrelevent. What matters is what the politicians think. If they believe they have a politicial future they will probably stay as far from Trump as possible.
 
I am going to go out on yet another limb and say I do not believe Pence will be the VP choice, either. This may be wishful thinking! But, in my last limb-going I not only predicted "not-Gingrich" but also "be a surprise". At this point Pence would not be a surprise -- Google and other news outlets have been announcing as fact Pence as VP for all day today.

I have my own idea on who it will likely be, and my own hopes of who would be a great pick (a plethora of fantasy picks, actually). Not the same, by the way. We'll see tomorrow! What a show that's being put on for us.
 
I am going to go out on yet another limb and say I do not believe Pence will be the VP choice, either. This may be wishful thinking! But, in my last limb-going I not only predicted "not-Gingrich" but also "be a surprise". At this point Pence would not be a surprise -- Google and other news outlets have been announcing as fact Pence as VP for all day today.

I have my own idea on who it will likely be, and my own hopes of who would be a great pick (a plethora of fantasy picks, actually). Not the same, by the way. We'll see tomorrow! What a show that's being put on for us.

It's possible he pulls someone out from nowhere tomorrow, but it's very risky. The smartest move would be to put up 3 names and let the delegates choose. One problem with this- tomorrow at noon is the IN deadline for Pence to withdraw from his reelection campaign, so Pence would be quitting his office to maybe be on the ticket.
 
Well, this sorta complicates things regarding Pence:
 
Rand & Cruz supported TPP at one point. I don't think they are suicidal enough to rip off Trump in the medium term based on their 2020 campaign.

Pence can say he is wrong in the past on issues. Tancredo, Steve King and a few others did enough to delay his touchback amnesty plan.




Steve King & Jeff Sessions were outliers in the horrible GOP, now they are the only relevant people in congress in terms of the WH race. They do whatever they want. THe local party hacks can't get into the market they've created.

The terror attack may allow him more time to justify a pro-borders, anti jihad Dem.

The Manhattan city Madman:

 
Oh we get infractions we just don't cry about them.

For example, I have been suspended twice for extended periods of time and not once have ever submitted a complaint against a single solitary soul, despite receiving some interesting private messages. In fact, I don't even think I have ever neg repped someone in my 7 year tenure here. I'm not a kindergartner who runs to the teacher every time something contrary to my narrow viewpoint comes across the screen.
 
For example, I have been suspended twice for extended periods of time and not once have ever submitted a complaint against a single solitary soul, despite receiving some interesting private messages. In fact, I don't even think I have ever neg repped someone in my 7 year tenure here. I'm not a kindergartner who runs to the teacher every time something contrary to my narrow viewpoint comes across the screen.

I've never -neg repped anyone either.
 
Part of me thinks he's going to change his mind on the VEEP now because of this attack and go the national security route and pick someone like Flynn.

Or this gives him time to back out of Pence (who his campaign people like) versus Newt (who his kids like) and others
 
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