Trump Picking Pence As Running Mate

[kahless]

And he's so uninteresting to the public and press that in the odd event he did say something interesting, there's a good chance nobody would be around to cover it anyway.

It is the 4th Quarter, Trump has the lead, and now he's just trying to run out the clock. Pence is the perfect pick for that. Objectionable to no one, boring, disciplined, and sure to be forgotten by next week and play little to no role in the campaign.

^the only good thing I can think of picking Pence.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I did not have faith he would pick a decent running mate. I hoped he would make a better strategic choice but like I said if Rand were the nominee I expect he would probably have done the same to kiss the ring of the establishment to get their approval. We saw Rand do this during the campaign which killed his chances you would think with Trump's sucess beating 17 candidates he would not make the same mistake.

The establishment may certainly use the same tactic on Trump now. They push for concession, and then when that concession comes, they can have others label him a sell-out to alienate the anti-establishment base. It's what they did to Rand.

 

[acptulsa]

Pence is the perfect pick for that. Objectionable to no one...

...who isn't on the Trumpwagon because he was playing anti-establishment. In other words, the only people who could possibly object to him are Trump's supporters.

Just the usual GOP bait-and-switch. Candidate promises one thing, gets nominated, turns into a monster, and tells Republicans too late, you nominated me and you're stuck with me.

 

[CPUd]

Five times Pence broke with Trump

Donald Trump and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, who reports say will be named Trump's running mate on Friday, haven't always seen eye-to-eye on policy.

Pence endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in Indiana's primary, and he criticized Trump's proposal for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S.

“Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional,” Pence tweeted the day that Trump made the announcement.

Pence is apparently standing by his opposition to the ban, though he hasn’t let that get in the way of giving his full-throated support of Trump.

"Look, I served in Congress for 12 years, I’ve been governor for three and a half years,” he said to reporters this week, according to ABC.

“I haven’t agreed with every one of my Republican colleagues or Democratic colleagues on every issue. But I’m supporting Donald Trump because we need change in this country," he said. "I believe he represents the kind of strong leadership at home and abroad that will, to borrow a phrase, make America great again."

Trump [sic] is also a supporter of free trade and has backed the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal supported by President Obama and Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

“Trade means jobs, but trade also means security. The time has come for all of us to urge the swift adoption of the Trans Pacific Partnership,” he wrote on Twitter.

Trump has been one of the most outspoken critics of international trade deals throughout the campaign and has called the TPP a “rape of our country.”

Pence's support for Cruz was notable, though in his endorsement he also offered praise for Trump, saying he had given “voice to the frustration of millions of working Americans with a lack of progress in Washington, D.C."

Trump responded by saying it sounded like Pence was only ostensibly supporting Cruz to appease “special interests.”

"If you really take a look at Mike Pence, I think he gave me more of an endorsement than Ted Cruz,” Trump said in a Fox News interview at the time. “His donors and special interests obviously made him give an endorsement.”

Pence endorsed Trump exactly a week later, following Cruz’s exit from the race in the wake of his Hoosier State loss.

The two also differed on the 2008 Wall Street bailout, or Troubled Asset Relief Program. Trump offered tepid support of it at the time, saying he didn't know if it would be sufficient to alleviate the recession but that it was "worth a shot."
"I'm not sure that it's going to work. You know, it is trial and error. This is very complicated. This is more complicated than sending rockets to the moon," he said in an interview with CNN at the time, according to Politifact.

"Nobody really knows what impact it's going to have. Maybe it works, and maybe it doesn't. But certainly it is worth a shot. I don't love the idea that the government's buying back all the bad loans. How about some of the good loans? You know? I don't like the idea that the government, frankly, is going to be negotiating with people to sell those loans, because maybe we'd be better off having the best bankers in the world do that."

Pence, meanwhile, was one of the most outspoken critic of TARP among House Republicans, questioning the urgency of the need to address the financial crisis.

"I must tell you, there are those in the public debate who have said that we must act now. The last time I heard that, I was on a used-car lot," Pence said at the time, according to CNN.

"The truth is, every time somebody tells you that you've got to do the deal right now, it usually means they're going to get the better part of the deal," said Pence, who voted against the TARP.

Pence also voted to invade Iraq in 2003 when he was a member of the House, while Trump claims that he was against the war from the very beginning, though some interviews he gave at the time seem to contradict that.

Trump has repeatedly slammed likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton for backing the invasion.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/287757-trump-pence-havent-always-agreed-on-the-issues

 

[RonPaulMall]

^the only good thing I can think of picking Pence.

Exciting VP picks are for people who are desperate (like McCain in 08). Bush went boring with Cheney. Obama went even more boring with Biden. Pence is probably the most boring of all.

Boring may be boring, but boring wins. If it is second and goal from the one yard line in the Superbowl and you have Marshawn Lynch in the backfield, you run the ball three times. Passing would be more exciting, but increases the chances of something unexpected taking place.

This is a boring, uninspired pick that will excite no one. But it also gives Hillary no avenue for attack. Trump is ground and pounding his way to the White House.

 

[Danke]

But, but...Trump has no chance of winning, right? ...why are all the Hillary supporters up in arms about this?

 

[kahless]

The establishment may certainly use the same tactic on Trump now. They push for concession, and then when that concession comes, they can have others label him a sell-out to alienate the anti-establishment base. It's what they did to Rand.

Yep, that is exactly what they will do. They will celebrate the choice now and in a few weeks time or whatever the next feign outrage is go back to echoing the HRC campaign-Progressive campaign rhetoric against Trump which will give Hillary the edge she needs in the polls.

 

[acptulsa]

Exciting VP picks are for people who are desperate (like McCain in 08). Bush went boring with Cheney. Obama went even more boring with Biden. Pence is probably the most boring of all.

Boring may be boring, but boring wins. If it is second and goal from the one yard line in the Superbowl and you have Marshawn Lynch in the backfield, you run the ball three times. Passing would be more exciting, but increases the chances of something unexpected taking place.

This is a boring, uninspired pick that will excite no one. But it also gives Hillary no avenue for attack. Trump is ground and pounding his way to the White House.

Uh huh.

Trump is anti-establishment, all the neocons hate him, they'll do anything to stop him, this is the revolution, he's going to end the imperialism and he's scaring the crap out of the globalists. So, he's going to pick a major neocon and proven globalist, and we're all going to sit here and talk about how boring he is, and no one is the least bit worried--least of all the man himself--about Trump getting shot.

Sure, your jigsaw puzzle all fits together very nicely. If you use a big enough hammer on it.

 

[oyarde]

What makes this thread surreal is that Pence, as bad as he is, is not nearly as bad as Trump has always been.

Johnson & Pence are starting to look better to me compared to Clinton , Obummer , Biden , Trump , Kerry ,Gore etc . I wonder why he did not take the Gov of Ohio ? He has to get Ohio and has little chance .....

 

[LibertyEagle]

We shall see. Trump may not pick Newt or Pence. He may just be manipulating the media once again.

 

[hells_unicorn]

I have opted to abstain from voting this election, and there was no choice that Trump could have made for VP to change my mind, even if he'd asked Rand. As a largely dispassionate observer who is, nevertheless, getting kind of bored with all of the questionable websites being linked to by certain parties here, I would probably argue that Pence would be a good choice for temporarily settling down the Neo-con crowd, who still largely have a stranglehold on critical states in the Midwest (aka wacky cult Evangelical land), which was the only area where Trump really struggled in the primary. It would be a strategic decision, and to be sure, people like Anne Coulter will be temporarily peeved about it, but what is she going to do, vote for Hilldog and do a 180 on the whole immigration issue that she has been so up in arms about for the past several years?

Pence has connections with superstitious middle America, and he has a history in the U.S. House, that's pretty much the only logic behind this choice. And yes, compared to Clinton, Obama and numerous others, Pence looks better, at least on paper. Then again, two years into Obama's presidency I was fully convinced that this country had actually managed to elect somebody worse than George W. Bush, both in terms of foreign policy, and far more so in terms of economic freedom.

I fully expect that, shy of some monumental disaster in the debates, that Trump will probably trounce Hillary in the general election. It's debatable as to how much of a trouncing it will be, but it most likely will be landslide territory. I wonder if after it happens we'll be treated to more Salon, Mother Jones, Daily Beast and Politico rot courtesy of CPUd on a daily basis throughout Trump's first term. One can only guess...

 

[kahless]

Johnson & Pence are starting to look better to me compared to Clinton , Obummer , Biden , Trump , Kerry ,Gore etc . I wonder why he did not take the Gov of Ohio ? He has to get Ohio and has little chance .....

Kasich does not seem like the type to work well with others under management. Therefore not someone you could work with as VP. Like many establishment types likely would not playball with Trump if he was asked.

 

[oyarde]

Kasich does not seem like the type to work well with others under management. Therefore not someone you could work with as VP. Like many establishment types likely would not playball with Trump if he was asked.

Good point , Pence has more calm than Kasich and can discuss something that he does not agree with like a sane person.

 

[undergroundrr]

Pence's track record makes him sound like the evil spawn of Dick Cheney.

So far, this is turning out to be the most warmongering ticket that we've ever had in the USA.

Anyhow, LE & dannno will be posting the Molyneux videos that will make this brilliant choice all make rational sense in 3... 2...

 

[acptulsa]

 

[Suzanimal]

I keep misreading the thread title as Trash Picking...

 

[jllundqu]

Pence's track record makes him sound like the evil spawn of Dick Cheney.

So far, this is turning out to be the most warmongering ticket that we've ever had in the USA.

Anyhow, LE & dannno will be posting the Molyneux videos that will make this brilliant choice all make rational sense in 3... 2...

LMAO

 

[twomp]

As I've said elsewhere... this type of rhetoric proves nothing, has no intellectual value, just drives people into a bigger divide, degrades the level of discourse of the site and often leads to retaliation name calling and more. This isn't what we want. We appreciate your help in elevating the site discourse and thus supporting our mission of liberty.

As we are right on the issues (including not supporting Trump) we can use solid arguments and not rely on name calling.

Thanks.

Oh please, you don't go around with your little infraction pad slapping peoples hands when they call Clinton supporters names. People can call Obama, and Sanders supporters names and nothing happens. But talk about the Trump supporters and its time for you to crack out that whip? I guess we all know who you are voting for this November. Which is fine because this is your site. Just don't give me that whole "aw shucks, be nice act." The only people who get banned these days are people who don't support that authoritarian you all love so much. Make America great again!!

 

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[Danke]

Oh please, you don't go around with your little infraction pad slapping peoples hands when they call Clinton supporters names. People can call Obama, and Sanders supporters names and nothing happens. But talk about the Trump supporters and its time for you to crack out that whip? I guess we all know who you are voting for this November. Which is fine because this is your site. Just don't give me that whole "aw shucks, be nice act." The only people who get banned these days are people who don't support that authoritarian you all love so much. Make America great again!!

Who are you referring to that got banned? I know Petar and AH02 have been banned in the recent past.