Trump Outperformed Romney in all Ethnicities

[misterx]

Polls were actually not that far off. They were within a point or two on the national polling. It is in the Electoral College they were wrong- where those votes were.

Still carrying water for the liberal establishment I see. The only one within a point or two was the much maligned IBD. Take out the "outlier" LA Times and IBD polls, and the average for the last two days was Clinton +4.25. CNN is projecting that it will be Trump winning the popular vote. You don't even want to talk about the state polls.

Bloomberg 11/4 - 11/6 799 LV 3.5 46 43 Clinton +3
IBD/TIPP Tracking 11/4 - 11/7 1107 LV 3.1 43 42 Clinton +1
Economist/YouGov 11/4 - 11/7 3669 LV -- 49 45 Clinton +4
LA Times/USC Tracking 11/1 - 11/7 2935 LV 4.5 44 47 Trump +3
ABC/Wash Post Tracking 11/3 - 11/6 2220 LV 2.5 49 46 Clinton +3
FOX News 11/3 - 11/6 1295 LV 2.5 48 44 Clinton +4
Monmouth 11/3 - 11/6 748 LV 3.6 50 44 Clinton +6
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 11/3 - 11/5 1282 LV 2.7 48 43 Clinton +5
CBS News 11/2 - 11/6 1426 LV 3.0 47 43 Clinton +4
Reuters/Ipsos 11/2 - 11/6 2196 LV 2.3 44 39 Clinton +5

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yes, withing the margins of error most of those are within a couple points of Clinton by 1.5% in the popular vote.

 

[misterx]

Yes, withing the margins of error most of those are within a couple points of Clinton by 1.5% in the popular vote.

The whole point of taking a polling average is so that it smooths out the errors. That +4.25 is supposed to be almost exactly what the real vote was. Why were they all off by more than the margin of error towards Clinton? If it was moe, then half of them should've been Trump +4 while the other half was Clinton +4. Just admit that the polls were wrong. Even the media has admitted it.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Romney was always a lackluster candidate. I think if they ran him again he would have lost again.

low energy. sad!

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Mitt Romney had more votes than either Trump or Clinton (at just under 61 million- he would have won by a million votes this time- Clinton was just below 60 million)- and still lost by 5 million votes. That means six million fewer people voted.

Not to mention that there are more people than there were four years ago.

 

[misterx]

Mitt Romney had less votes in battleground states. This was solely a battleground election. Mitt Romney also didn't have his own party working against him. Don't kid yourselves, Trump beat Romney in nearly every demographic. If more people voted it wouldn't have changed that.

 

[misterx]

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[Tywysog Cymru]

Mitt Romney had less votes in battleground states. This was solely a battleground election. Mitt Romney also didn't have his own party working against him. Don't kid yourselves, Trump beat Romney in nearly every demographic.

Obama wasn't under FBI investigation.

 

[misterx]

Obama wasn't under FBI investigation.

Neither was Hillary as far as the people knew.

 

[misterx]

You guys swore up and down that you knew there was no way Trump could beat Hillary. How do you think you have any credibility to say that Mitt Romney would've done better. You guys were wrong about EVERYTHING.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Neither was Hillary as far as the people knew.

Almost all Americans knew about that. A lot of people outside the US knew about it too.

 

[misterx]

Almost all Americans knew about that. A lot of people outside the US knew about it too.

They knew Comey said not prosecution. They didn't know she was still under investigation for the Clinton Foundation.

 

[gaazn]

Hillary couldn't go after the white rural and working white vote without hurting turnout of minorities. She couldn't go after banks or media because they are her buddies. She couldn't distance from Obama because needed black vote to turn out in large numbers. Young voters were her only hope, which is why she should've just picked Bernie this time, and then choose someone else next time. They group the minorities together but I would bet the Trump gains were a generational issue.

 

[RandallFan]

By the Cornell figures, there was little change in minorities for Romney vs Trump. Well within margin of errors. Trump did it with rural voters.

He did it with suburban and exurb women.


45 year old white women are not offended by pretty much any of Trump's quotes or political positions.

He said he wants to sleep with a bunch of rich women. Not really shocking or criminal.

Saying a bunch of bimbos throw themselves at him is not really a shock.

How does like some nerdy conservative pundit even understand being tall and rich like Trump and dealing with bimbos and start throwing retarded GOP & independent women voter numbers into a formula.

 

[UWDude]

How does like some nerdy conservative pundit even understand being tall and rich like Trump and dealing with bimbos and start throwing retarded GOP & independent women voter numbers into a formula.

thi sis the reality bean counting Zippyjuan will never be able to wrap his head around. I know the type. The dude thinks everything can be quantified. Everything to him is statistics and fact checking. It's like he just has no idea what human nature is like.