Trump issues statement on mask and vaccine mandates

Still waiting for Trump to admit that the vaccines are unsafe and ineffective. At this point that's never going to happen.
 
CaptUSA said:
Oh FFS, you're not going to get people to forget. He may have tried to dodge blame, but "2 weeks to slow the curve" was all him. He could have come out and said, "No, Fauci. We're not doing that! None of that! If any state does that, they will be violating the Constitutional rights of their citizens and the Federal government will step in to prevent that!"

But no... That's not what happened at all. Pepperidge farm remembers. Fauci, Walenski, Trump, and the rest all want to pretend like we didn't live through it. But we did.
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It was not him, it was the bureaucracy, the rest of the deepstate, and the media.
He went along as little as possible in an election year and said the cure could not be worse than the disease, he also steadfastly opposed mandates the entire time.
 
Snowball said:
Actually, it's Fauci and Birx that wanted more time to test and develop a safer vaccine. Trump PUSHED Fauci and disbanded the idea of a safety board which RFK Jr. was going to lead. This happened after Trump took donations by Pfizer. RFK Jr. affirms it.

Here's just a few real donker quotes that tell the truth.

“They had bad policy decisions that would have left our country open to China and others, closed to reopening our economy, and years away from an approved vaccine — putting millions of lives at risk.” - Trump

“Dr. Fauci was incapable of pressing the FDA to move it through faster. I was the one to get it done, and even the fake news media knows and reports this,” - Trump

"They referred to me, as I often say, as the skunk at the picnic because whenever they would say things were great, I would say ... I don’t really think so," Fauci said.

The biggest complaint Birx had was the lack of a response in the first couple months of the virus being here in the US. Remember how Trump didn't want to enact any policies to hurt the economy. That move actually made th

"I look at it this way: There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge," said Birx, who served under the Trump administration. "All of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially." - referring to March-early May 2020, after which another 350,000 Americans went on to die from the virus. This was when Trump "By April and May, however, Trump had pushed for cities and states to reopen, and he falsely suggested that the virus could not survive in the sun and that “tremendous” light could kill it off. He also began hyping hydroxychloroquine as an unproven treatment, continued referring to the virus as the “China virus” and questioned the effectiveness of wearing face masks.".

So, in reality, if we're being honest, Trump's mismangement of both the first months and the vaccine development being expedited for mass production and distribution, much earlier than Fauci originally envisioned. He pushed doctors and CDC and FDA to speed up everything, to hell with the protocols.

"It will take at least a year to a year and a half to have a vaccine we can use," Fauci said on March 3, 2020.

But this was not fast enough for Trump, who wanted it before the election.

Alex Azar, Mark Esper, and Deborah Birx were on the board of directors of OWS, while Tony Fauci, Francis Collins, and Robert Redfield were nonvoting advisers.

Deborah Birx, whom now it is known was pressured to be a team player, was the only medical professional on Trump's OWS board.

Azar was a lawyer with no medical background, except for being a former president of Eli Lily. Esper was from defense-industry lobbyist groups, and the Heritage Foundation.

just the facts. We should not forget what Trump's 2020 year really was like. He allowed the virus to get out of hand, when it was far stronger than it is today. He expedited the vaccines more than doctors like Fauci wanted, because he wanted votes. In the same way, he approved of and promised more handouts. The oversight was out the door financially. Out the door. It was a circus. Mnuchin was handing out millions to cronies. Billions in relief grants were going offshore and to criminals here. Kushners were involved in shady deals also, and Trump didn't care about any of it. He let it happen. We couldn't have done much worse in Covid response than with Trump in charge. This is the ugly truth. In many ways, Trump himself is what gave us Joe Biden.

He got the big news in time, but notice..

Pfizer will seek emergency-use authorization for COVID-19 vaccine
moneywatch
Updated on: October 27, 2020

Drugmaker Pfizer said Tuesday that it plans to apply for emergency-use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration for its COVID-19 vaccine in November, once safety milestones are achieved....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pfizer-emergency-use-authorization-fda/
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Yes, they wanted more time to keep us locked down until the economy was destroyed completely.
By rushing the vaccine but opposing mandates Trump shortened the lockdowns and tried to stop mandates.
Had they had the time to test them fully they would have declared them to be proven and then they would have mandated them with more power because they were not experimental and unproven.
 
dannno said:
He was for them for 2 weeks, not 2 $#@!ing years.

You people are as disingenuous as leftists.
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That's what happens when you let disingenuous leftists into the movement because they claim to agree about a few things like being antiwar.
They embed themselves and they teach others to be like them.
 
Swordsmyth said:
That's what happens when you let disingenuous leftists into the movement because they claim to agree about a few things like being antiwar.
They embed themselves and they teach others to be like them.
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There's only one regular here who runs around shouting, "Anyone who disagrees with me is a [fill in the blank].

But everyone here knows that's totally leftist behavior.

Good thing some animals are more equal than others. If you were as restricted from calling others names as some of us are, you'd pop like a balloon.
 
Trump never handled the entire "pandemic" well. It was an area where he was caught unaware and failed to correctly adapt. Given he had faith in institutions, unlike most of us here that consider them both corrupt and incompetent, it led him to make a series of decisions that were disastrous. The fact is that most people on this planet would have failed to handle it correctly, and the only ones that would have correctly handled everything would have done so for one or two major reasons that separate those individuals from the rest. The first reason being due to an inherent distrust of the extant hierarchies (corporations, government bureaucracies) that were to be a part of the proffered solution. The second reason is a logical understanding of pandemics, the necessity of prophylactics (which were discouraged by those previously mentioned hierarchies), lack of research support for the efficacy of mRNA vaccines, and knowing why vaccination during a pandemic is a bad idea. Basically, a better handling could have been achieved by possessing wisdom related to recent history or intelligence related to viruses and their spread. Any president that had both would have probably had the "pandemic" pushers up against a wall and shot for trying to cause widespread and longlasting harm to line their pockets.

I do not know why many of his supporters will not admit where he failed.
 
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acptulsa said:
There's only one regular here who runs around shouting, "Anyone who disagrees with me is a [fill in the blank].

But everyone here knows that's totally leftist behavior.

Good thing some animals are more equal than others. If you were as restricted from calling others names as some of us are, you'd pop like a balloon.
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LOL
 
acptulsa said:
There's only one regular here who runs around shouting, "Anyone who disagrees with me is a [fill in the blank].

But everyone here knows that's totally leftist behavior.

Good thing some animals are more equal than others. If you were as restricted from calling others names as some of us are, you'd pop like a balloon.
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Never underestimate the power of the orange aura or for that matter, a woman scorned.
 
acptulsa said:
There's only one regular here who runs around shouting, "Anyone who disagrees with me is a [fill in the blank].

But everyone here knows that's totally leftist behavior.

Good thing some animals are more equal than others. If you were as restricted from calling others names as some of us are, you'd pop like a balloon.
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Agreed. He makes a lot of good posts but then throws his toys out of the pram during disagreements.
 
All it will take is a mandate and everyone will be ordered to take whatever they want you to take whenever they want you to take it. This scenario is unlike others. Unfortunately in most cases if you refuse to cooperate they incarcerate you. In this instance before incarceration they will first give you the mandated jab that was the cause of your incarceration. Get it? Got it? Good! For the good of the people!
 
Swordsmyth said:
Huge: Trump FINALLY Addresses Vaccine Side Effects, Urges Transparency by Big Pharma

https://www.infowars.com/posts/huge...ide-effects-urges-transparency-by-big-pharma/
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Essentially, my jab no comment, no promises I'd investigate my own jab (though it "should" happen), but new Biden jab clearly bad, maybe all other jabs bad, but no comment on OWS at all period be very afraid of Biden but not me now go away.

“So, will you demand that the vaccine companies, that the pharmaceutical companies release their vaccine data to the public so that we can see what they’re actually seeing about the side effects of this vaccine?” Dixon asked.

“Well, they should do that. We’re all in this together, and they should be doing that,” Trump responded.

“And frankly, anything new, and I hadn’t heard what he [Biden] said yet, but anything new has got to be looked at very carefully. But they should be doing that. If they have facts – I mean, the facts are public. They should be made public immediately. People should understand that, and they should know what research is showing and what fact-finding is…”

“Don’t forget,” Trump added, “when we started, nobody ever had any idea, even the word ‘pandemic.’ It was 100 years ago – 1917 – that was the last time. And it was a horrible thing. One hundred million people perhaps died, but nobody thought that could happen again. It seemed like an ancient kind of thing – the plague. They talked about the plague, but we had our own plague. It was called COVID. It was called the China Virus.”

“What that Wuhan lab and what came out of there, because it came out of the Wuhan lab. And what that did to the world was unbelievable. Sixty trillion in damages, so many dead people, millions and millions of people all over the world. What happened there was just incredible, horrible,” he continued.

Dixon went on to ask Trump what he thought about pharmaceutical giants potentially withholding data behind PREP Act protections that provide immunity from liability until 2024.

“President Biden, just a couple of days ago, said he is going to release a new vaccine that works. Those are his exact words: ‘That works.’ I don’t know if that’s to indicate that he thinks the last vaccine didn’t work. But the pharmaceutical companies have been protected by the PREP Act and that protects them until, I think, it’s December ’24 when that sun sets.”

“Will you tell these companies that they must be honest about what has happened with this vaccine? And do you believe that we should be starting a new vaccine at this point?” Dixon questioned.

Trump responded, “They have to be honest with the numbers, the facts, and they have an obligation to be honest. And if they are going to hold back, that means they’re holding back something that’s not good.”

“Mr. President, I’m telling you, there are people out there that are desperate to have you stand for them in that case,” said Dixon.

“Well, we’ll stand for them in many ways,” Trump replied.

The affirmative message showing the former president is aware of the multitude of vaccine injured Americans comes as Trump vowed last week to push back against Covid hysteria, which he credits for helping Joe Biden rig the 2020 election.

“They want to restart the Covid hysteria so they can justify more lockdowns, more censorship, more illegal drop boxes, more mail-in ballots, and trillions of dollars in payoffs to their political allies heading into the 2024 election. Does that sound familiar?” Trump said in a viral video last week.

Earlier this year, Trump also declared that if re-elected he planned to form a task force to probe the “stunning rise in autism, autoimmune disorders, obesity, infertility, serious allergies.”
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“Well, we’ll stand for them in many ways,” Trump replied. Um, I don't know what that means, but thanks...?
 
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{@emeriticus | 13 September 2023}

Absolutely brutal exchange. Trump claims he doesn’t know who gave Anthony Fauci a presidential commendation while he was president when pressed by Megyn Kelly.

MK: “The truth is though, not only did you not fire Fauci, who is loathed by many, many, millions of Republicans in particular, but also some Democrats.

Trump: “By the way--”

MK: “You made him a star. You made him a star. This is the criticism of you. That you made him the face of the White House coronavirus task force--”

Trump: “You think so?”

MK: “--that he was out at every presser . . . and that you actually gave him a presidential commendation before you left office. Wouldn’t you like a do-over on that?”

Trump: “Uhhhhh, I don’t know who gave him the commendation. I really don’t know who gave him the commendation.”

MK: “Well a presidential commendation—”

Trump tries to talk over her here, so it is a little hard to hear, but it sounds like she says he may as well have given a commendation to Mark Milley if Fauci got one.

Also, it’s easy to miss, but MK notes at the very beginning that Trump changed his answer for why he didn’t fire Fauci. First, he said it was because Fauci had been around for a long time and that it would have been too controversial a move. She quotes him saying it would have created a firestorm. Only later did Trump say he *couldn’t* fire Fauci because he’s a civil servant. But as MK notes, the problem wasn’t just that he didn’t fire him--he made Fauci a star.

I don’t think a guy who says “I don’t know” who gave Fauci a presidential commendation while he was president is equipped to drain the swamp.

Credit for the clip: @JoelWeingart_

 
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