Trump is serving the neocons trashtalk Ron Paul was too classy to give them.

[notsure]

neocon is not the same as anyone who supports some war, or attacking ISIS. It's kind of tiring for the people who've been on this forum for years that this knowledge apparently cannot be assimilated.

What's tiring is you hanging all over Trumps' nuts.

 

[notsure]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/25/donald-trump-on-the-worst-thing-that-ever-happened-to-israel/

http://dailychomp.com/donald-trump-booed-at-cpac-after-calling-for-boots-on-the-ground-to-defeat-isis/

He also calls Snowden a traitor and says he should be killed.

 

[KingNothing]

This is US of A. Nobody gets elected for being classy. Rand should have gone into the boss mode long time ago. Trump is eating his lunch now. Oh yeah, his political "advisers" told him not to.

Can you show me the last time America elected a president that was an overt dickhead?

We almost exclusively elect guys who we perceive as fun and funny. No one thinks Trump is those things.

 

[HankRicther12]

You shouldn't attack a candidate's wife. That's just rude and immature.

Mmmm, maybe, but with Hillary she don't have wife - well...ah, nah, I won't go there - anyhow, I think wives or husbands are grown ups who willingly decide to put themselves out there so I don't think it's wrong to attack them.

Now children, I definitely say leave them be, unless they are over 18 and agree to put themselves into the fray like some of Romney's kids did.

 

[RandallFan]

[h=3]Mark Steyn, Jonah Goldberg -- and Donald Trump - The Rebel[/h]www.therebel.media/mark_steyn_jonah_goldberg_and_donald_trump


Jan 20, 2016 - Trump has even deigned to respond, referring to Jonah as “a guy that can't buy a pair of pants” – a putdown that probably needed at least one more rewrite.

[h=3]Conservatives against Trump - National Review Online[/h]www.nationalreview.com/.../donald-trump-conservatives-oppose-nomina...


Jan 21, 2016 - So did Donald Trump. While conservatives fought against the stimulus, Donald Trump said it was “what we need,” praising Obama's schemes of “building ...




[h=3]Sen. Sasse heading to Iowa to campaign against Trump[/h]www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ben-sasse-no-trump-iowa-218245


4 days ago - Ben Sasse is heading to Iowa to campaign against Donald Trump over the next two days, with plans to appear at events for Senate colleagues Marco Rubio and ...


[h=3]FreedomWorks rescind Osborn endorsement, back Sasse[/h] Started by compromise, 03-28-2014


Talk about a flip flopping "loser" candidate Sasse.


[h=3]Nebraska establishment GOP hits Tea Party candidates on immigration[/h] Started by RandallFan, 05-10-2014


So NRO ran this hit piece because Trump attacked their pants.

[h=3]Donald Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar and Right - Politico[/h]www.politico.com/.../donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-21357...


1 day ago - “But I get more pussy than you do. ... The message had all the hallmarks of a Trump attack: shocking, vulgar and indisputably true. ... And, except in those moments when the self-righteous silliness of rich people overwhelms me and I feel like ...

 

[francisco]

Can you show me the last time America elected a president that was an overt dickhead?

We almost exclusively elect guys who we perceive as fun and funny. No one thinks Trump is those things.

Well. 1968 for starters.

Then a repeat in 1972: "Why switch Dicks in the middle of a screw, Nixon for President in "72!"

 

[heavenlyboy34]

This is US of A. Nobody gets elected for being classy. Rand should have gone into the boss mode long time ago. Trump is eating his lunch now. Oh yeah, his political "advisers" told him not to.

Yup. Nor are they elected for their merits. And policy does not exist for rational reasons. That's how the gov'ment mafia operates.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Mark Steyn, Jonah Goldberg -- and Donald Trump - The Rebel

www.therebel.media/mark_steyn_jonah_goldberg_and_donald_trump


Jan 20, 2016 - Trump has even deigned to respond, referring to Jonah as “a guy that can't buy a pair of pants” – a putdown that probably needed at least one more rewrite.

Conservatives against Trump - National Review Online

www.nationalreview.com/.../donald-trump-conservatives-oppose-nomina...


Jan 21, 2016 - So did Donald Trump. While conservatives fought against the stimulus, Donald Trump said it was “what we need,” praising Obama's schemes of “building ...




Sen. Sasse heading to Iowa to campaign against Trump

www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ben-sasse-no-trump-iowa-218245


4 days ago - Ben Sasse is heading to Iowa to campaign against Donald Trump over the next two days, with plans to appear at events for Senate colleagues Marco Rubio and ...


FreedomWorks rescind Osborn endorsement, back Sasse

Started by compromise, 03-28-2014


Talk about a flip flopping "loser" candidate Sasse.


Nebraska establishment GOP hits Tea Party candidates on immigration

Started by RandallFan, 05-10-2014


So NRO ran this hit piece because Trump attacked their pants.

Donald Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar and Right - Politico

www.politico.com/.../donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-21357...


1 day ago - “But I get more pussy than you do. ... The message had all the hallmarks of a Trump attack: shocking, vulgar and indisputably true. ... And, except in those moments when the self-righteous silliness of rich people overwhelms me and I feel like ...

Nitpick-National Review, in my experience, is only regarded as "conservative" among neocons, Buckleyites, and their sympathizers.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Can you show me the last time America elected a president that was an overt dickhead?

We almost exclusively elect guys who we perceive as fun and funny. No one thinks Trump is those things.

1968 and 1972.

ETA - I see I've been beaten to the punch.

 

[RonPaulMall]

LOL. Trump serving up Fox's neocon hatchet man of the week:

 

[osan]

You shouldn't attack a candidate's wife. That's just rude and immature.

But it is effective.

In war, winning is all that matters.

 

[osan]

If Trump can cause chaos, more power to him. Some of the things he said, should be said, despite his true motivations.

I could not agree more.

At this point, America stands in emergent need of a rough-handed and very direct enema. I know it has been said countless times by damned near everybody here, but it appears that repetition just isn't getting the job done: we are in mortal danger, and that applies to almost every last one of us. I mean this in the literal physical sense, as well as the more oblique, such as referring to our liberties, "spiritual" conditions, mental health, and so forth.

On the mean, we are completely lost in our faulty perceptions of just about everything around us, from that which others do either to us or for us, to the sense of our places in the world, and our sense of proper human relations. The very fabric of what remains of our culture stands on the brink of unraveling completely. The enema of which I write can now come in any form that will work, so dire is the situation. As far as I am concerned, anything that shakes people back to some sense, will have to be regarded as a blessing, no matter how horrible it might otherwise seem.

If Trump's outlandish manner gets people whipped up enough to act, then I cannot see it as a bad thing... unless... it is a trap. That last bit may be off the rails, but this is political warfare and social engineering. It is all waged in the name of, well, what exactly I cannot say; perhaps world dominion replete with eville(tm) laughter, or just the endeavors of powerful people who, in their bent minds, believe themselves to be "saving" the planet. Regardless, some of us here pretty well recognize how that game is now played and we see the apparent willingness to sacrifice as many lives as may be deemed necessary to achieve the goal. Therefore, it is perhaps not gone too far to regard this all as bait intended to prompt enough Americans into action such that non-equivocating force may be unleashed upon all.

One thing I do know, however, is that remaining asleep is not going to help us. Therefore, I must welcome anything that stirs people to some semblance of consciousness, however inadequate and distorted it might be regarded under less dire conditions. The people of this land are in critical condition, politically speaking. Triage is now the only hope they have for survival. It would seem that we are now somewhere along the path of that "golden hour" wherein if one is to be saved, the right actions must be taken. At this point, I accept any action because I would rather see the nation die on its feet, fighting, even if no hope remains. It beats going ignominiously in one's sleep, unaware and at the hands of the indifferent.

Finally, I would point out to the useful idiots out there that Theye will not likely spare you in reward for your service to them. Whether political pundit, cop/sheriff, mayor, senator, or city dog catcher, once your usefulness has passed, you will also be added to the mountain of bodies. Make no mistake about it: regardless of the ultimate truth of global political power and unless this is all the work of extra-terrestrials, those at the proverbial "top" are still human, which means that blood is one of the centers upon which this whole circus of destruction turns. This is very likely as much a blood-feud between Themme and the rest, as anything else. If you are not blood kin in some way palpable to Theire senses, you are nothing more than a means to their end. You are well enough treated so long as you serve a purpose in earn of your keep. The moment your utility passes and your cost exceeds the minimum desired return, you are "retired". And trust you that the pension there is naught more than a plastic box, if even that.

Therefore, let you who with loving tongue so devotedly groom the filth-laden boots of the master, give think to the precarious nature of your ever so tenuous position in the nightmare scheme of things. And let you not convince yourselves that the status of your utility to that master rests in your own hands to maintain, because it is ultimately nowhere near it. You hang by a thread even more tenuous than that of the rest of us because you have His eye, whereas the rest of us are only viewed en masse. Aye, give ye think to that which thou doest and why. Consider the price thou payest now and may yet pay on the morrow, for when the tide turns, regardless of by whose hand, in deep and danger-laden waters shall ye find thyself. What then?

 

[tod evans]

At this point, America stands in emergent need of a rough-handed and very direct enema. [snip] What then?

osan for president!

 

[Peace&Freedom]

If Trump's outlandish manner gets people whipped up enough to act, then I cannot see it as a bad thing... unless... it is a trap. That last bit may be off the rails, but this is political warfare and social engineering. It is all waged in the name of, well, what exactly I cannot say; perhaps world dominion replete with eville(tm) laughter, or just the endeavors of powerful people who, in their bent minds, believe themselves to be "saving" the planet. Regardless, some of us here pretty well recognize how that game is now played and we see the apparent willingness to sacrifice as many lives as may be deemed necessary to achieve the goal. Therefore, it is perhaps not gone too far to regard this all as bait intended to prompt enough Americans into action such that non-equivocating force may be unleashed upon all.

One thing I do know, however, is that remaining asleep is not going to help us. Therefore, I must welcome anything that stirs people to some semblance of consciousness, however inadequate and distorted it might be regarded under less dire conditions. The people of this land are in critical condition, politically speaking. Triage is now the only hope they have for survival. It would seem that we are now somewhere along the path of that "golden hour" wherein if one is to be saved, the right actions must be taken. At this point, I accept any action because I would rather see the nation die on its feet, fighting, even if no hope remains. It beats going on one's sleep, at the hands of the indifferent.

Trump is like the member of the substance abuse support group who interrupts the cocaine addict and the alcoholic who are bashing each other, to say "shut up, you're both losers, 'cause you're in the same group!" Trump has indeed set a trap for the rest of the establishment guys, to prove they are something other than deluded posers who are part of a last place team, but think they're playoff contenders. He has thereby cut through their pretensions the same way Tony Soprano might tell off Michael Corleone with, "hey, I come across as middle class, while you think you're high class, but we're both just mob bosses and hoods, get over yourself!"

Ron and Rand Paul couldn't do this, because they aren't hoods. They would come off as boy scouts trying to tell off "the grown-ups." Since the Donald is not a boy scout, his put downs are serving to put them in their place, while waking up the rest of the voters. He's reminding them the GOP has not been solving problems, or reducing the size of government, or cutting spending and borrowing, or accomplishing anything on immigration and other cultural fronts, or keeping things safe and stable in the Mideast with all the interventions. This wake up call is making it hard to imagine there will be any return to the genteel, "respectable" milquetoast guys who would continue the record of total fail. As Pat Buchanan put it in his current column:

And, again, the argument over the acceptability of Trump aside, there is a deeper conflict within the GOP and conservative movement that may be irreconcilable. Millions of conservatives and independents believe it was the Republican policies of the recent past that also failed America.

The Bush-Clinton-Obama trade policies produced the $12 trillion in trade deficits, which measures the net export of U.S. factories and manufacturing jobs, which explain the wage stagnation.

The Republican-neocon foreign policy of intervention and nation building is a primary cause of the present disasters in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen.

The immigration policies championed by Bush Republicans as well Clinton and Obama Democrats produced the immigration crisis that propels the Trump campaign.

In short, it will be difficult for populists to unite with Beltway conservatives in 2016, when the former see the latter as part of the problem, not the solution.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/01/patrick-j-buchanan/civil-war-right/

 

[osan]

osan for president!

I would not have the job at any price.

King for 4 years, OTOH, I would take. America would be unrecognizable as such by the time I was finished... assuming I lived through to the end.

It would be ugly, but I believe ultimately worth it. But isn't that what every tyrant says?

 

[Theocrat]

Trump's Rhetoric is Snake Oil

Trump is like the member of the substance abuse support group who interrupts the cocaine addict and the alcoholic who are bashing each other, to say "shut up, you're both losers, 'cause you're in the same group!" Trump has indeed set a trap for the rest of the establishment guys, to prove they are something other than deluded posers who are part of a last place team, but think they're playoff contenders. He has thereby cut through their pretensions the same way Tony Soprano might tell off Michael Corleone with, "hey, I come across as middle class, while you think you're high class, but we're both just mob bosses and hoods, get over yourself!"

Ron and Rand Paul couldn't do this, because they aren't hoods. They would come off as boy scouts trying to tell off "the grown-ups." Since the Donald is not a boy scout, his put downs are serving to put them in their place, while waking up the rest of the voters. He's reminding them the GOP has not been solving problems, or reducing the size of government, or cutting spending and borrowing, or accomplishing anything on immigration and other cultural fronts, or keeping things safe and stable in the Mideast with all the interventions. This wake up call is making it hard to imagine there will be any return to the genteel, "respectable" milquetoast guys who would continue the record of total fail. As Pat Buchanan put it in his current column:

The problem is Donald Trump has supported and benefited from policies which were started by both parties. Trump is not in any way a conservative, and I don't understand why people who call themselves "libertarians," "social conservatives," or "freedom fighters" continue to cheer his narcissistic, "nana-nana-boo-boo" tactics towards the establishment with whom he has made deals with in the past, anyway.

Like Sen. Paul has said countless times towards Sen. Cruz, this is an issue of authenticity. Trump is definitely not disrupting anything in the establishment. If you believe that he is (just because he says whatever comes off the top of his head), then you, my friend, are deceived.

 

[osan]

Trump is like the member of the substance abuse support group who interrupts the cocaine addict and the alcoholic who are bashing each other, to say "shut up, you're both losers, 'cause you're in the same group!" Trump has indeed set a trap for the rest of the establishment guys, to prove they are something other than deluded posers who are part of a last place team, but think they're playoff contenders. He has thereby cut through their pretensions the same way Tony Soprano might tell off Michael Corleone with, "hey, I come across as middle class, while you think you're high class, but we're both just mob bosses and hoods, get over yourself!"

This is astute.

Ron and Rand Paul couldn't do this, because they aren't hoods. They would come off as boy scouts trying to tell off "the grown-ups." Since the Donald is not a boy scout, his put downs are serving to put them in their place, while waking up the rest of the voters. He's reminding them the GOP has not been solving problems, or reducing the size of government, or cutting spending and borrowing, or accomplishing anything on immigration and other cultural fronts, or keeping things safe and stable in the Mideast with all the interventions. This wake up call is making it hard to imagine there will be any return to the genteel, "respectable" milquetoast guys who would continue the record of total fail. As Pat Buchanan put it in his current column:

Also astutely put.

What evades me somewhat is why Trump has the clout that Ron does not. Perhaps it is because Americans have been trained to relate to brawlers more than gentlemen. In that case, it would seem that the training has backfired on Themme.

Whatever the case, I am all for Trump continuing, regardless whether he will become president and if he does, whether he would be any good.

America doesn't need a good president nearly as much as a good wakeup call. Trump may not be the best in theory, but he seems to be getting done that which has evaded the rest. Americans need to get angry, but for the right reasons, and remain that way for a very long time. That is the only thing that is going to right the land.

This year stands to become very interesting.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

neocon is not the same as anyone who supports some war, or attacking ISIS. It's kind of tiring for the people who've been on this forum for years that this knowledge apparently cannot be assimilated.

This^^ Most people here don't seem to know what the N-word means. RP explains well, IMO:

 

[RandallFan]

[h=2]Barbara Bush Throws Shade At Donald Trump[/h] Huffington Post - ‎12 hours ago‎
Barbara Bush, who once said she thought there had been "enough Bushes" in the White House, is no longer apprehensive about her son Jeb's Republican presidential bid. But the former first lady did have some advice for him in an interview with CBS's ...




[h=2]Barbara Bush Blasts a Certain Unnamed Candidate (Ahem, Donald Trump) But Says She Won't Get in a 'Spitting Match ...[/h] People Magazine - ‎9 hours ago‎
Without mentioning Trump's name, Barbara went on to reference the billionaire businessman's feud with Fox News' Megyn Kelly – "Unbelievable. I don't know how women can vote for someone who said what he said about Megyn Kelly," she said – and his ...



[h=2]Bush camp includes Santorum in new anti-Rubio ad[/h] Cinema Blaze - ‎2 hours ago‎
Barbara Bush initially declined to show her true feelings about Trump, the man who's been tearing into her son for more than six months as someone who's "dumb as a rock" and "low energy". "No. I do not". "I'm sick of him". "I actually called that ...




CNN Reporter Asks Barbara Bush for Her Thoughts on Trump ...
TheBlaze.com-4 hours ago
Barbara Bush Is Sick of Trump: All He Does Is Insult and 'Make Faces'
International-Mediaite-4 hours ago
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