Trump is serving the neocons trashtalk Ron Paul was too classy to give them.

The same reason Rand gets flack for being the son of Ron.

Rand was elected senator because he was the son of Ron, and was expected by his supporters to carry Ron's mantle.

That's analogous to bringing Jeb's president father and brother into the campaign, but not the mere fact that his wife was born in some other country.
 
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George P Bush goes to Mexico and speaks Spanish and apologizes for the Border Patrol.

Regardless of whether it is bad policy, Bush was doing it to pander to foreigners as part of the Bush/Obama doctrine of being a globalist Messiah.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/31/uselections2004.usa1

"If there has been American approval for this policy, that is reprehensible," Mr Bush said. "It's kind of barbarous." He blamed the use of the guns on "some local INS [immigration service] guy who's trying to be tough, act macho." In fact, the use of the guns is federal policy.

But he made good use of his proximity to power, referring constantly to "mi tío" - my uncle - and promising that with the war in Iraq "almost done with", his uncle will turn his attention back to relations between the US and the countries that lie to the south.
 
There is no proof of that. It's conspiratorial and immature. Leave her out of it. Hillary and Bill are different because they are both politicians. What next? Attacking people's children. Imagine if someone attacked Rand because his son drunk drives.

Rand's son does not influence policy. and his behavior could become an issue if there are more incidents. Bush 43's daughters were attacked for smoking and getting drunk.
 
Trump is not a real candidate. He's only a placeholder for media purposes.

maybe it started out that way. one could say the same about Bernie Sanders, or even Ron (especially in 2008). Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson did not expect to be nominated. even Obama was considered to be running to be Hillary's VP in 2008. no one expected him to win. if Trump wins in Iowa and/or NH he could take it all.
 
Jeb's brother George insisted on a $100,000 fee and $20,000 for a private jet to speak at a charity for severely wounded vets. Not nice!
You mean George W. Bush sends our soldiers into combat, they are severely wounded, and then he wants $120,000 to make a boring speech to them?

Did it really happen ? Link ? Is Dubya jealous of all the money Clinton is making ?
 
Trump's got balls, likes to talk mad shit and he's really good at it.

I would not want to debate him on live TV. He could make his opponents look like fools.

Kinda like what Ron Paul did with the neocons by telling the truth, except Trump can kick it up notch by also belittling them.
 
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maybe it started out that way. one could say the same about Bernie Sanders, or even Ron (especially in 2008). Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson did not expect to be nominated. even Obama was considered to be running to be Hillary's VP in 2008. no one expected him to win. if Trump wins in Iowa and/or NH he could take it all.

Donald Trump is getting all this media attention, but he's not really saying anything. Even in his attacks on RINO's and neocons he's not saying anything and not really addressing the real issues. It's all hype.
 
Donald Trump is getting all this media attention, but he's not really saying anything. Even in his attacks on RINO's and neocons he's not saying anything and not really addressing the real issues. It's all hype.

He's getting all the media attention for breaking the sacred rules of political correctness. Thou shall not speak ill of the noble illegal alien. As a result, the TPTB have a launched a smear campaign so as to tarnish what's left of the GOP brand. This has little to do with Trump.
 
Donald Trump is getting all this media attention, but he's not really saying anything.

He is saying a lot more than others on immigration. He is saying how criminals come from Mexico and that saves Mexico jailing costs that the U.S. taxpayer has to pay, and that it should stop. I hate it when clueless and uninformed people comment. If you don't even watch the news and don't know what you're talking about, why punish us with your uninformed comments?
 
He is saying a lot more than others on immigration. He is saying how criminals come from Mexico and that saves Mexico jailing costs that the U.S. taxpayer has to pay, and that it should stop. I hate it when clueless and uninformed people comment. If you don't even watch the news and don't know what you're talking about, why punish us with your uninformed comments?

So a person isn't qualified to comment on politicians unless he subjects himself to "Teh-Newz"? :rolleyes:
 
So a person isn't qualified to comment on politicians unless he subjects himself to "Teh-Newz"? :rolleyes:

Wow, what happened to the intelligent people who used to use this forum? Where are they?

You should be informed, in some way, to avoid making obviously false statements. Fox News, Infowars, whatever. If you don't know what you're talking about, why fill the forum with nonsense and falsehoods?
 
List off the examples you can think of of anyone winning a major party's nomination by acting like Trump is.

Major implication FAIL here. Assuming it has never before happened, a very generous assumption in favor of your apparent position, it does not follow that it may not happen this time.
 
Wow, what happened to the intelligent people who used to use this forum? Where are they?

You should be informed, in some way, to avoid making obviously false statements. Fox News, Infowars, whatever. If you don't know what you're talking about, why fill the forum with nonsense and falsehoods?

Maybe you'd be so kind as to point out the " obviously false statements" I've made?
 
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