TRUMP: "If we don't make a deal, I will be leading the pack" [in a war with Iran]

[nikcers]

Do you have a medical condition? My reply was to your false statement that Solemani was - your own words -
" He was supreme commander. A much higher rank than general. He was commander in chief."

He was the most senior commander, the most influential commander whose nickname was shadow commander who just happened to threaten the United States on behalf of their leader.

It is said he was the second most powerful person in the regime due to his influence.

Calling him simply a general if you don't know how their system works is misleading.



“The U.S. president … made some idiotic comments on Twitter. It is beneath the dignity of the president of the great Islamic country of Iran to respond, so I will respond, as a soldier of our great nation. You threaten us with a measure that the world has not seen before. First of all, it has been over a year since Trump became U.S. president, but that man’s rhetoric is still that of a casino, of a bar. He talks to the world in the style of a bartender or a casino manager.”

Then came the threat.

“Mr. Trump, the gambler! […] You are well aware of our power and capabilities in the region. You know how powerful we are in asymmetrical warfare. Come, we are waiting for you. We are the real men on the scene, as far as you are concerned. You know that a war would mean the loss of all your capabilities. You may start the war, but we will be the ones to determine its end.”

-Qassem Soleimani.

Qassem Soleimani and Iran’s Unique Regional Strategy - Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

Abstract: In recent years, Iran has projected its power across the Middle East, from Lebanon and Syria to Iraq and Yemen. One of the keys to its success has been a unique strategy of blending militant and state power, built in part on the model of Hezbollah in Lebanon. The acknowledged principal...

ctc.westpoint.edu

 

[wizardwatson]

Then came the threat.

“Mr. Trump, the gambler! […] You are well aware of our power and capabilities in the region. You know how powerful we are in asymmetrical warfare. Come, we are waiting for you. We are the real men on the scene, as far as you are concerned. You know that a war would mean the loss of all your capabilities. You may start the war, but we will be the ones to determine its end.”

-Qassem Soleimani.

Qassem Soleimani and Iran’s Unique Regional Strategy - Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

Abstract: In recent years, Iran has projected its power across the Middle East, from Lebanon and Syria to Iraq and Yemen. One of the keys to its success has been a unique strategy of blending militant and state power, built in part on the model of Hezbollah in Lebanon. The acknowledged principal...

ctc.westpoint.edu

This is a threat?

This is Soleimani articulating the Non-Aggression Principle, you know that thing that people preach on this forum, or used to anyway.

Did someone spill coffee on your motherboard?

 

[nikcers]

This is a threat?

This is Soleimani articulating the Non-Aggression Principle, you know that thing that people preach on this forum, or used to anyway.

Did someone spill coffee on your motherboard?

Their president at the time threatened war.

Trump then responded on Twitter.

Then Soleimani threatened to destroy the United States in war.

He said come at me bro.

 

[wizardwatson]

Their president at the time threatened war.

Trump then responded on Twitter.

Then Soleimani threatened to destroy the United States in war.

He said come at me bro.

Rouhani's statements on July 22nd, 2018 to which Trump responded (and then Soleimani countered) were also Non-Aggression Principle statements about how Iran would retaliate if America attacked. Rouhani made these statements in response to sanctions that violated international law.

Liar, liar, nickers on fire.

 

[nikcers]

Rouhani's statements on July 22nd, 2018 to which Trump responded (and then Soleimani countered) were also Non-Aggression Principle statements about how Iran would retaliate if America attacked. Rouhani made these statements in response to sanctions that violated international law.

Liar, liar, nickers on fire.

Against International law?

Oh no someone call the world police.

I thought you were against having a world police?

If there is an international law who is the law enforcement?

 

[wizardwatson]

Against International law?

Oh no someone call the world police.

I thought you were against having a world police?

If there is an international law who is the law enforcement?

I'm Christian, we're actually part of the galactic police force. On some planets, particularly planets with pizza trees, we've found there's no need even for wellness checks. Even the least fluffiest dinocorns are very docile. I often find it unnecessary to even to hand out glitter-snacks to the sparglop younglings.

 

[CCTelander]

This is a threat?

This is Soleimani articulating the Non-Aggression Principle, you know that thing that people preach on this forum, or used to anyway.

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They don’t anymore.

 

[nikcers]

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They don’t anymore.

We put sanctions on Iran because their missle program was being built so they can attack other countries.

We said but no Iran is peaceful and they don't missle attack other countries.

October 2024 Iranian strikes on Israel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[wizardwatson]

We put sanctions on Iran because their missle program was being built so they can attack other countries.

We said but no Iran is peaceful and they don't missle attack other countries.

October 2024 Iranian strikes on Israel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The sanctions on Iran were themselves an act of war. These sanctions were aimed at pretty much every industry, but primarily energy/oil/steel/gold.

Iran's first missile attack was after two generals, a woman and a child, were murdered at an embassy in Damascus.

The 2nd attack was after the leader of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, was bombed to death inside Tehran. Per wikipedia, more than 60 members of his extended family were killed by Israel prior to his own assassination.

But by present day RPF-er logic, bombing and sieging countries isn't war, it's just negotiation tactics.

But deporting people from the U.S. because they badmouth Israel, well that's justified because we are at war and defending against an ongoing invasion.

When the Lord comes to judge our hypocrisy, what is our defense for this?

 

[nikcers]

The sanctions on Iran were themselves an act of war. These sanctions were aimed at pretty much every industry, but primarily energy/oil/steel/gold.

Iran's first missile attack was after two generals, a woman and a child, were murdered at an embassy in Damascus.

The 2nd attack was after the leader of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, was bombed to death inside Tehran. Per wikipedia, more than 60 members of his extended family were killed by Israel prior to his own assassination.

But by present day RPF-er logic, bombing and sieging countries isn't war, it's just negotiation tactics.

But deporting people from the U.S. because they badmouth Israel, well that's justified because we are at war and defending against an ongoing invasion.

When the Lord comes to judge our hypocrisy, what is our defense for this?

Even Rand Paul was against the Obama nuclear deal with Iran that removed sanctions.

He signed a letter with half of the US senate at the time.

When he was asked why he was against removal of sanctions he said the agreement doesn't do anything to curb Iran's missle program.

RPFs at the time said Iran is peaceful and doesnt attack other countries with their missles.

Rand Paul was right.


Solemani was the one who went to Russia and propped up Assad in Syria Otherwise their failed government would have collapsed a long time ago.

In a March 2021 leak of a recording with former Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and current Vice President for Strategic Affairs.

'Putin invited General Qasem Soleimani to Moscow to convince him to expand military cooperation between Russia and Iran,

Zarif downplayed the “heroic” version of events promoted by the Revolutionary Guard and its allies about Soleimani’s visit to Moscow, which they claimed helped persuade Putin to intervene in Syria.'

Iran’s Foreign Minister, in Leaked Tape, Says Revolutionary Guards Set Policies (Published 2021)

Mohammad Javad Zarif, the Iranian foreign minister, described a rivalry with a powerful and widely revered military leader, Qassim Suleimani.

www.nytimes.com

 

[wizardwatson]

Even Rand Paul was against the Obama nuclear deal with Iran that removed sanctions.

He signed a letter with half of the US senate at the time.

When he was asked why he was against removal of sanctions he said the agreement doesn't do anything to curb Iran's missle program.

RPFs at the time said Iran is peaceful and doesnt attack other countries with their missles.

Rand Paul was right.


Solemani was the one who went to Russia and propped up Assad in Syria Otherwise their failed government would have collapsed a long time ago.

In a March 2021 leak of a recording with former Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and current Vice President for Strategic Affairs.

'Putin invited General Qasem Soleimani to Moscow to convince him to expand military cooperation between Russia and Iran,

Zarif downplayed the “heroic” version of events promoted by the Revolutionary Guard and its allies about Soleimani’s visit to Moscow, which they claimed helped persuade Putin to intervene in Syria.'

Iran’s Foreign Minister, in Leaked Tape, Says Revolutionary Guards Set Policies (Published 2021)

Mohammad Javad Zarif, the Iranian foreign minister, described a rivalry with a powerful and widely revered military leader, Qassim Suleimani.

www.nytimes.com

Rand Paul made a mistake.

The collapse of Syria is a tragedy. It's now a hellhole controlled by an Israeli friendly Al-Qaeda stooge.

There is no declaration of war outside of the erroneous and unconstitutional P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act which attempts to declare "war" against "terrorism" which is actually a tactic and not an enemy.

However, it's easy to find damning evidence against both America and Israel where we've financed the terror we pretend to fight. America has an unjust and evil foreign policy. This is most recently and strongly evidenced by it's financial contribution to the genocide Israel is perpetrating in the Gaza strip.

It is very pro-American to say such things.

 

[nikcers]

Rand Paul made a mistake.

The collapse of Syria is a tragedy. It's now a hellhole controlled by an Israeli friendly Al-Qaeda stooge.

There is no declaration of war outside of the erroneous and unconstitutional P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act which attempts to declare "war" against "terrorism" which is actually a tactic and not an enemy.

However, it's easy to find damning evidence against both America and Israel where we've financed the terror we pretend to fight. America has an unjust and evil foreign policy. This is most recently and strongly evidenced by it's financial contribution to the genocide Israel is perpetrating in the Gaza strip.

It is very pro-American to say such things.

From 2006 to 2011, an extreme drought pushed hundreds of thousands of people – mostly rural farmers to rebel against their government while 100s of thousands fled the country.

The drought caused 75 percent of Syria's farms to fail and 85 percent of livestock to die. The Syrian drought was likely the worst in at least the past 900 years and almost definitely the worst in 500 years.

This caused the balance of power to shift in that country and a civil war.

The Syrian people demanded change of government but Iran intervened and when they couldn't do it on their own they asked for Russia's help.

Obama was president at the time and he went to congress and asked for authority to go to war against Assad.

Rand Paul told Obama to pound sand.

 

[wizardwatson]

From 2006 to 2011, an extreme drought pushed hundreds of thousands of people – mostly rural farmers to rebel against their government while 100s of thousands fled the country.

The drought caused 75 percent of Syria's farms to fail and 85 percent of livestock to die. The Syrian drought was likely the worst in at least the past 900 years and almost definitely the worst in 500 years.

This caused the balance of power to shift in that country and a civil war.

The Syrian people demanded change of government but Iran intervened and when they couldn't do it on their own they asked for Russia's help.

Obama was president at the time and he went to congress and asked for authority to go to war against Assad.

Rand Paul told Obama to pound sand.

CIA operation Timber Sycamore was going on from 2011 through 2017. This is public. This was a joint U.S. exercise with Qatar/Turkey to destabilize the Assad government by financing terrorists. Both illegal and unethical and technically makes the CIA "drone-able" per our own "war on terror" directives in the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act.

Sure, there was a drought.

But I think the planned terrorizing of a sovereign nation led by a global superpower had a larger effect.

 

[nikcers]

CIA operation Timber Sycamore was going on from 2011 through 2017. This is public. This was a joint U.S. exercise with Qatar/Turkey to destabilize the Assad government by financing terrorists. Both illegal and unethical and technically makes the CIA "drone-able" per our own "war on terror" directives in the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act.

Sure, there was a drought.

But I think the planned terrorizing of a sovereign nation led by a global superpower had a larger effect.

They had a famine and a drought. This is what destabilized their country. The people rose up to overthrow their dictator.

The people of a country have a right to change their government. That's what we did in 1776.

We armed their rebels through Turkey. Rand Paul brought it up when he was questioning Hillary Clinton.

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[Swordsmyth]

The sanctions on Iran were themselves an act of war. These sanctions were aimed at pretty much every industry, but primarily energy/oil/steel/gold.

Iran's first missile attack was after two generals, a woman and a child, were murdered at an embassy in Damascus.

The 2nd attack was after the leader of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, was bombed to death inside Tehran. Per wikipedia, more than 60 members of his extended family were killed by Israel prior to his own assassination.

But by present day RPF-er logic, bombing and sieging countries isn't war, it's just negotiation tactics.

But deporting people from the U.S. because they badmouth Israel, well that's justified because we are at war and defending against an ongoing invasion.

When the Lord comes to judge our hypocrisy, what is our defense for this?

Iran has been at war with us since their revolution when they took our people hostage.
And Solomani was killed while coordinating an attack on our embassy in a 3rd country.
Trying to pretend that Israel is the only problem and that the muslims are innocent is hypocrisy.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Obama's Iran deal was illegal and a case of Treason.
He violated the law to give aid and comfort to an enemy that wages war on us.

 

[wizardwatson]

Iran has been at war with us since their revolution when they took our people hostage.
And Solomani was killed while coordinating an attack on our embassy in a 3rd country.
Trying to pretend that Israel is the only problem and that the muslims are innocent is hypocrisy.

Pick a narrative.

Either Trump is going to end war, or "we've been at war" with Iran, and Trumps going to end it. lol.

And did you get your intel about the embassy attack from the same deep state that "betrayed" Trump?

I've been saying we're probably going to war with Iran since Trump picked Palantir funded V.P. Vance.

Your Kung Fu is weak.

 

[wizardwatson]

Obama's Iran deal was illegal and a case of Treason.
He violated the law to give aid and comfort to an enemy that wages war on us.

Obama is no different than Trump. Two unremarkable sellout traitors.

This country hasn't been a Republic since Lincoln sold his soul.

And it hasn't had a decent President since Israel had JFK's brains blown out.

Keep bumping my thread all you want. RPF needs a refresher in what matters on the planet right now. Real war. Real tragedy. Real sin.

Not your incessant fat American whining about Pedro picking strawberries and CIA-funded MS-13 helping to kill Americans with drugs. That's a walk in the park compared to what's coming.

 

[acptulsa]

a case of Treason

Is that a Proper Noun now?

What's with you people capitalizing random words? Going medieval on our asses?

Is that why you type GOD instead of God? Is this you virtue signaling, trying to convince yourself you really do honor God more than you worship government?

 

[nikcers]

Trump threatened secondary sanctions last time he was president and that's when their president and Soleimani threatened war and to block the strait of hormuz.

"Any Country or person who buys ANY AMOUNT of OIL or PETROCHEMICALS from Iran will be subject to, immediately, Secondary Sanctions."

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