Trump Goes to War Against Iran

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They do admit to being allys with groups that commit acts of terror in the middle east. Show me a source that refutes this.

^^^THAT is what I was replying to. Who are these "terrorists" that Hezbollah/Iran have allied with? They have allied with Syrian and Iraqi military in fighting the likes of ISIS, Al Nusra/Al Qaeda, et al. THOSE are the terrorists, not the people fighting against them. To claim that people defending themselves and their countries from jihadist insurgents is to the take the line of the very people who are responsible for funding and arming these head chopping freaks!
The Middle East is full of terrorists, some of them do function as defenders of their home territory but then commit terror acts against their rivals in the region.
They've been doing it to eachother for over a thousand years.

We need to just leave because there are NO "good guys" over there.
 
Sigh.

They do admit to being allys with groups that commit acts of terror in the middle east. Show me a source that refutes this.

^^^THAT is what I was replying to. Who are these "terrorists" that Hezbollah/Iran have allied with? They have allied with Syrian and Iraqi military in fighting the likes of ISIS, Al Nusra/Al Qaeda, et al. THOSE are the terrorists, not the people fighting against them. To claim that people defending themselves and their countries from jihadist insurgents is to the take the line of the very people who are responsible for funding and arming these head chopping freaks!

Iran funds the IRGC which is a foreign terrorist organization.
 
The Real Reason to Intervene in Syria
Cutting Iran's link to the Mediterranean Sea is a strategic prize worth the risk.
By James P. Rubin | June 4, 2012, 3:50 PM

https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/06/04/the-real-reason-to-intervene-in-syria/


Clinton admin State Dept and husband of NWO war whore, Christianne Amanpour.

Yup in the artlice they state the real reason for why all of this is happening now in the middle east and with the African migrants being send to Europe.


Cutting Iran's link to the Mediterranean Sea is a strategic prize worth the risk.

They claim they were doing this regime change to stop a Shia Islamic Jihad, yet somehow they are ok with a Sunni Radical one?
 
Iran funds the IRGC which is a foreign terrorist organization.

You do realize Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is Iran's branch of the Iranian Armed Forces, right? how are the Iranian armed forces branded terrorists again?

China and Russia might as well just brand America's US marines corps as a foreign terrorist organization as well then.
 
He had just arranged an assault on our embassy and was planning something bigger.

He has been killing Americans for many years, he was behind Benghazi.

Where on earth are you getting that from? Al Qaeda operatives are the factor in Libya, as well as ISIS, now, because Hillary Clinton.
 
Hannity is rolling out all the Neocons and doing a victory lap. Lindsey Graham, Karl Rove and so on.

'the terrorist is dead. we're much safer'
 
You do realize Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is Iran's branch of the Iranian Armed Forces, right? how are the Iranian armed forces branded terrorists again?

China and Russia might as well just brand America's US marines corps as a foreign terrorist organization as well then.

Hezbollah is an Iranian-sponsored, internationally sanctioned terrorist group with an anti-Israel and anti-U.S. agenda
 
Where on earth are you getting that from? Al Qaeda operatives are the factor in Libya, as well as ISIS, now, because Hillary Clinton.
I posted an article about it.
The guy that got killed was running guns to Iran's enemies, the people he was supplying has no reason to kill him.
 
First you Trump supporters accused ISIS of being behind Benghazi and now you guys are accusing of Iran being behind it? GOOD LORD! you guys arent rational to think straight.

Don't lump us together. I voted for Trump and I know Iran had nothing to do with Benghazi.
 
A few perhaps.

But they aren't staying:



This could easily be a prelude to a withdrawal with reinforcements sent to make sure we aren't attacked during it so we don't get dragged into a war with Iran like Iran and the deepstate want.


Avoid that magical thinking, SS. We don't know what's going to happen.
 
I hope Trump does get to Bomb Iran teaches you NeoCons what war is really like. Americans are going to force Turkey to push one million more migrants into Europe.
LOL

Turkey wants to push more migrants into Europe to destroy and conquer it.

And I'm glad to see that you openly expose that your hatred for America is greater than your concern for the Iranian people and all of the others who will be killed or have their lives destroyed.
 
Hezbollah is an Iranian-sponsored, internationally sanctioned terrorist group with an anti-Israel and anti-U.S. agenda

This is the same Hezbollah is an Iranian-sponsored group which had helped the Syrian forces fight agaisnt American/Saudi, Gulf State proxy Jihadists, of course i wasn't surprised when they branded Hezbollah as a terrorist group.

It shows how you Americans are getting desperate in the region and branding groups who are fighting your own proxies in the region is another example of that.

with an anti-Israel and anti-U.S. agenda
Whats the US agenda in that region again? FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY? don't make me laugh. Its all about dominance and control of the regions and supplies of resources.

Which you dont want Iran to have nor to compete with Saudi Arabia. Having a puppet in Iran would be better for you so the Iranian puppet can easily bend over to its knees to the Sunni dominated middle east.
 
Clinton and O'Bummer let it happen, they didn't cause it.

Au contraire! Obama turned his back and said it was "Hillary's deal" and she was in collusion with Sarkozy. The British were also involved and had special forces sneaking around. It was the US who gave the gps coordinates for Gaddafi's satellite phone and tipped off his Al Qaeda killers who ambushed him. Hillary wasn't kidding with, "We came, we saw, he died".
 
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Turkey wants to push more migrants into Europe to destroy and conquer it.

And I'm glad to see that you openly expose that your hatred for America is greater than your concern for the Iranian people and all of the others who will be killed or have their lives destroyed.

I don't have any hatred towards anyone NeoCon i am just saying because clearly some of you Trump supporters in who pretend to be anti war dont seem to learn from HISTORY!
 
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Turkey wants to push more migrants into Europe to destroy and conquer it.

And I'm glad to see that you openly expose that your hatred for America is greater than your concern for the Iranian people and all of the others who will be killed or have their lives destroyed.

And I'm glad to see that you openly expose that your hatred for America
I am also happy to see this event in Iraq is slowly exposing you even more as a NeoCon and Interventionist. When i said i am hoping Trump does bomb Iran i meant it in a historical sense because NeoCons dont see what wrong your beloved MANCHILD did in Iraq.
 
The US and the Brits overthrew the elected govt of Iran, installed the Shah as a puppet, who was brutal to all Iranian dissenters which led to the backlash of of the Islamic revolution. The US backed Saddam Hussein in a war against iran in which hundreds of thousands were killed, including with chemical weapons. Then the US killed their puppet, Saddam. The Iranians were/are not about to thank the US for anything.

I've been reading today, trying to get up to speed on who this guy was. This 2013 article called "The Shadow Commander" is a fascinating read.

Here's a gem:

n the chaotic days after the attacks of September 11th, Ryan Crocker, then a senior State Department official, flew discreetly to Geneva to meet a group of Iranian diplomats. “I’d fly out on a Friday and then back on Sunday, so nobody in the office knew where I’d been,” Crocker told me. “We’d stay up all night in those meetings.” It seemed clear to Crocker that the Iranians were answering to Suleimani, whom they referred to as “Haji Qassem,” and that they were eager to help the United States destroy their mutual enemy, the Taliban. Although the United States and Iran broke off diplomatic relations in 1980, after American diplomats in Tehran were taken hostage, Crocker wasn’t surprised to find that Suleimani was flexible. “You don’t live through eight years of brutal war without being pretty pragmatic,” he said. Sometimes Suleimani passed messages to Crocker, but he avoided putting anything in writing. “Haji Qassem’s way too smart for that,” Crocker said. “He’s not going to leave paper trails for the Americans.”

Before the bombing began, Crocker sensed that the Iranians were growing impatient with the Bush Administration, thinking that it was taking too long to attack the Taliban. At a meeting in early October, 2001, the lead Iranian negotiator stood up and slammed a sheaf of papers on the table. “If you guys don’t stop building these fairy-tale governments in the sky, and actually start doing some shooting on the ground, none of this is ever going to happen!” he shouted. “When you’re ready to talk about serious fighting, you know where to find me.” He stomped out of the room. “It was a great moment,” Crocker said.

The coöperation between the two countries lasted through the initial phase of the war. At one point, the lead negotiator handed Crocker a map detailing the disposition of Taliban forces. “Here’s our advice: hit them here first, and then hit them over here. And here’s the logic.” Stunned, Crocker asked, “Can I take notes?” The negotiator replied, “You can keep the map.” The flow of information went both ways. On one occasion, Crocker said, he gave his counterparts the location of an Al Qaeda facilitator living in the eastern city of Mashhad. The Iranians detained him and brought him to Afghanistan’s new leaders, who, Crocker believes, turned him over to the U.S. The negotiator told Crocker, “Haji Qassem is very pleased with our coöperation.”

The good will didn’t last. In January, 2002, Crocker, who was by then the deputy chief of the American Embassy in Kabul, was awakened one night by aides, who told him that President George W. Bush, in his State of the Union Address, had named Iran as part of an “Axis of Evil.” Like many senior diplomats, Crocker was caught off guard. He saw the negotiator the next day at the U.N. compound in Kabul, and he was furious. “You completely damaged me,” Crocker recalled him saying. “Suleimani is in a tearing rage. He feels compromised.” The negotiator told Crocker that, at great political risk, Suleimani had been contemplating a complete reëvaluation of the United States, saying, “Maybe it’s time to rethink our relationship with the Americans.” The Axis of Evil speech brought the meetings to an end. Reformers inside the government, who had advocated a rapprochement with the United States, were put on the defensive. Recalling that time, Crocker shook his head. “We were just that close,” he said. “One word in one speech changed history.”
 
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