Trump Goes to War Against Iran

A few perhaps.

But they aren't staying:



This could easily be a prelude to a withdrawal with reinforcements sent to make sure we aren't attacked during it so we don't get dragged into a war with Iran like Iran and the deepstate want.

No worries- Trump promised we would be out of the region soon- starting with leaving Syria in 30 days. That was a year ago. Maybe this time he means it?
 
A few perhaps.

But they aren't staying:



This could easily be a prelude to a withdrawal with reinforcements sent to make sure we aren't attacked during it so we don't get dragged into a war with Iran like Iran and the deepstate want.



But they aren't staying:
Its like how Trump claimed in days they be withdrawing from Syria right? the only withdrawing they did was move the whole forces in the Kurdish areas. And where the oil fields were....
 
First you Trump supporters accused ISIS of being behind Benghazi and now you guys are accusing of Iran being behind it? GOOD LORD! you guys arent rational to think straight.
ISIS wasn't behind it, they were receiving weapons from O'Bummer and Clinton.

Suleymani has orchestrated attacks in everywhere from Lebanon to Thailand. The US Department of Justice accuses him of trying to hire a Mexican drug cartel to blow up the Saudi Ambassador to the United States while he was in Washington, DC.

My sources, meanwhile, say Suleymani was involved in an even more direct attack on the US — the killing of Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Benghazi, Libya.


“In Libya, Iran wanted to block US influence, which they saw as a threat,” the intelligence chief said. “They saw the uprising against Khadafy — and the Arab Spring more generally — as an opportunity to accomplish this.”
[h=3]The Kidnapping[/h] The CIA Annex in Benghazi housed an NSA listening post that secretly monitored communications of jihadi groups.
Late in the afternoon on Monday, July 30, 2012, the Annex ears picked up chatter in Persian between a pair of operators from Quds Force.
The NSA translator brought an English transcript of their conversation to the chief of base. He laughed when he read through it. “It looks like our boys are on time,” he said.
The chief of base had been given intelligence that Iran would send operatives into the area. He tasked several agents in his employ who worked for the Zintan militia, which ran the Benghazi airport, with tracking the seven Iranians scheduled to arrive that day from Tripoli.
They were operating undercover as part of a Red Crescent medical team — a doctor, male nurses, medics and administrator — and undoubtedly thought the Americans didn’t have a clue as to who they really were. At least, that’s what the chief of base had surmised from the intercepted coms.
But he knew that the Red Crescent team included operations officers the Iranians had dispatched to Benghazi to carry out an attack on the diplomatic compound. This was the big one they were all waiting for.


The CIA chief of base didn’t know whether their plan was to kidnap the ambassador, kill him, hire locals to drive car bombs through the perimeter wall, or what.
All he knew was, they were the bad guys and they had come to fulfill his worst nightmares.
Over the next hour or so, the chief’s deputy received a steady stream of reports over the tactical radio from the Zintan militia guys on the progress of the hit team. The plane had landed at Benina International Airport.
They packed into a convoy of Red Crescent vehicles (each painted white, with a large, bright red Islamic crescent painted on the doors and the roof — the Muslim version of the Red Cross).
They were en route to the Tibesti Hotel. The chief had a second team waiting in separate vehicles outside to track them once they left the airport. Everything was going like clockwork.
After the Iranians freshened up at the hotel, they went out again for an Iftar dinner with the local Red Crescent guys. It was a protocol event. Because they were in the middle of Ramadan, the Muslim month of daytime fasting, they didn’t actually sit down to dinner until late.
Then at 1 in the morning, it happened.
All of a sudden, the deputy chief jumped up from where he had been dozing off. His guys were going nuts.
The ruckus got the chief’s attention. “What’s going on? What are they saying?” he asked.
The deputy translated the excited shrieks from the trackers. It seemed the Red Crescent team had been headed back to the Tibesti Hotel when they were ambushed by a half dozen Toyota pickups with .50-caliber machine guns mounted on the beds.

The militia guys forced the Iranians to get out, cuffed them, then bundled them into a pair of Jeep Cherokees and sped off.

Our guys decided it was more prudent not to follow them, he said.
So they’re gone, the chief said. That’s it. Kidnapped.


For the next 24 hours or so, the chief’s network of agents in Benghazi was unable to find out where the Iranians had been taken or who was holding them.

Then, according to Dylan Davies, the former British Special Operations grunt who managed the unarmed security detail at the US diplomatic compound, a local fixer learned they were being held in a former Libyan army camp outside of town on the Tripoli road.
“They are getting fed; they have their own beds even. They are fine,” he told Davies.
The fixer claimed it was a Shia-Sunni thing. “There are some who think those Iranian Shias are not welcome here,” he said. “But they are perfectly okay.”
Davies says he learned a few days later that the CIA chief of base had tasked his former Special Forces security team with launching a hostage rescue, perhaps with the goal of interrogating the Iranians in the privacy of their armored Mercedes G wagons.

At the last minute, Davies’ fixer told him the Iranians had already been set free and put on a plane for Tripoli, en route to Tehran. “Mate, cancel the cavalry,” he told the chief diplomatic security officer at the compound. “They left yesterday on a flight to Tehran.”

When the Americans expressed surprise at how he got this information, he said that his fixer’s cousin worked at the airport. “He saw all seven of ’em fly out of here.”
But Davies — and the CIA chief of base — got played.

[h=3]The Distraction[/h] I learned what actually happened from two former Iranian intelligence officers. Each has his own active network of contacts inside Iran, some of whom continue to work in senior positions in the Iranian regime.

I corroborated their initial information with multiple Western intelligence sources that are not in contact with them.

The CIA chief of base was correct that the Red Crescent team included undercover Quds Force officers who had been sent to carry out a terrorist attack against the United States.
In fact, my Iranian sources said, their orders were to kidnap or kill the US ambassador to Libya, to send a message to the United States that they could act against them at will anywhere and at any time in the Middle East.
But, as they were getting ready to set the plan in motion, the resident Quds Force team in Benghazi learned from its own intercepts of the Annex tactical coms that the Red Crescent cover had been blown and the CIA was onto them.
So they decided to take the entire group off the streets — stage a kidnapping — in order to convince the chief of base that the danger was over.
“The team in operational command in Benghazi were Qassem Suleymani’s people,” the former Baghdad deputy chief of station, John Maguire, told me. “They were a mature, experienced, operational element from Iran. These guys are the first-string varsity squad.” And they were playing for keeps.

Maguire had matched wits with Suleymani, the Quds Force commander, for two years in Iraq and came away with a healthy respect for his capabilities. “He is talented, charismatic. His people are competent and well trained. They have all the operational traits we used to value. And they are committed to this fight for the long haul.”


Suleymani and his Quds Force operators were so successful at killing Americans in Iraq because they had penetrated US operations.
They didn’t just randomly place an IED on a roadside, Maguire said. They placed the IED where and when they knew an American convoy was going to pass.
“They were into our coms. They were into our operational planning. That’s how they were able to kill so many Americans,” Maguire said.
The faked kidnapping in Benghazi was a typical Quds Force op. They used a local militia that on the surface detested Shias, just as they used the Taliban in Afghanistan and manipulated al Qaeda.
“They are very good at deception operations,” Maguire told me.
And our side didn’t have a clue. The CIA chief of base and his deputy fell for it hook, line and sinker.

[h=3]The Payoffs[/h] The Quds Force was using operatives recruited in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Turkey and Egypt to finance, train and equip the radical group Ansar al-Sharia in Libya, careful to show their hand only to a select few.

To anyone on the ground, these Iranian operatives would look and speak just like Arabs or Turks. They helped to create a series of small, radical militias — Ansar al-Sharia was not the only one, as the June 7-8 gathering of jihadis in Benghazi showed — to block any progress toward democracy.

My sources estimate that the Iranians recruited more than 1,000 Libyan fighters for these militias who were “in direct contact with Quds Force officers.”

By mid-August 2012, planning for the attacks on the US diplomatic compound and the CIA intelligence base in Benghazi had been in the works for two months.
My sources say the head of the Iranian team in Benghazi was a senior Quds Force officer named Ibrahim Mohammed Joudaki. He had gotten his start killing Kurds in northwestern Iran, and later ended up in Lebanon where he trained Hezbollah fighters.


His deputy, Khalil Harb, was someone he had known and worked with for years in Lebanon.
Harb was a top Hezbollah operative and a deputy to Quds Force chieftain Qassem Suleymani. As an Arab, it was easier for him to interface directly with the local militias and handle the logistics of the operation itself.
Over those first two months, Joudaki spread money around, while Harb and his team of hardened killers gathered intelligence, recruited militiamen, and refined the operational plan.
My sources say Harb had a total of some 50 Quds Force operatives on the ground to manage the attacks.
Their initial orders were to kidnap the US ambassador while he was visiting Benghazi, and to destroy the CIA Annex. They wanted to drive the United States out of Benghazi, where they believed the CIA was supervising weapons transfers to the Syrian rebels.

“Iran saw the CIA presence on the ground in Benghazi as a direct threat,” the former Western European intelligence chief said.

[h=3]The Attack[/h] The kidnapping plan was dropped after the Red Crescent team arrived and were outed by the CIA. Harb and Joudaki replaced it with a straight kill order.



My sources say that a courier arrived carrying $8 million to $10 million in 500-euro notes around three weeks before the attack. Joudaki distributed the money through Harb to Ansar al-Sharia leaders.

The money was brought in through Tunisia, then south through the Algerian desert, and into Libya by road. It came from Quds Force accounts in Malaysia.

On Sept. 11, 2012, Ansar al-Sharia attacked the consulate in Benghazi, killing Ambassador Stevens.
Ahmed Abu Khattala, one of the suspected ringleaders in the attack, was captured by US forces last week. Although Ansar al-Sharia was supported by Iranian money, Qassem Suleymani and his Quds Force kept their hands clean.

And those “kidnapped” Red Crescent workers? They were miraculously released on Oct. 6 in Benghazi and appeared for a group photo with the Libyan Red Crescent, then were put on a plane to Tripoli and flown back immediately from there to Tehran.

This is the deadly deception we face from Iran. Suleymani may work with us to battle ISIS, but don’t believe for one moment that he’s our friend.

More at: https://nypost.com/2014/06/20/how-irans-spy-chief-paid-for-the-benghazi-attack/
 
Okay. So your whole shtick is sarcasm?

You should see the crazies on ATS, they are completely bonkers there then here.

I am done respecting Trump supporters after this one, that is if they were actual Trump supporters to begin with.
I am honestly not surprised why twitter is banning them.
 
ISIS wasn't behind it, they were receiving weapons from O'Bummer and Clinton.

:rolleyes: Sure.................. using NYPost as a source.

The Quds Force was using operatives recruited in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Turkey and Egypt to finance, train and equip the radical group Ansar al-Sharia in Libya, careful to show their hand only to a select few.

Pure nonsense. Shall we ignore the Militia's which America backed in Libya and armed?
 
A few perhaps.

But they aren't staying:

Afghanistan was supposed to just be a temporary deal too- just until Bin Laden was caught. Instead Iraq got added to the itinerary. Decade later we are still there in both countries.
 
In that way, yes, they've contributed to deaths and injuries of US personnel who should never have been there anyway. Iran is no more out of line than the US is.

Pure speculation. If Iran had a hand in killing US soldiers in Iraq (for which there is NO evidence), it would have been in 2004-05 when they supported the Mahdi Army.

Unlike the Sunni terrorists supported by Trump's buddies, the Saudis, the Mahdi Army wore military fatigues and fought US soldiers in straight up battles and didn't hide behind women and children, blowing up market places etc. US soldiers had respect for the Mahdi Army due to them fighting like actual soldiers defending their country and this is an exact quote from a buddy of mine who actually did fight in Karbala against the Mahdi Army.
 
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This Obama admin who armed the Jihadists not Iran...
to Libyan rebels from Qatar
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America has being known to fund and arm Jihadist groups for decades ever since the cold war.. And your accusing IRAN of what America has being doing best for years... RIGHT..................
 
Afghanistan was supposed to just be a temporary deal too- just until Bin Laden was caught. Instead Iraq got added to the itinerary. Decade later we are still there in both countries.

Obama sent 100,000 troops to Afghanistan, remember that?
 
They should have sent forces to rescue our people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30155216

Benghazi consulate attack: Report clears US response

A US investigation has found no wrongdoing by the Obama administration in responding to the deadly 2012 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

The inquiry by the Republican-run House Intelligence Committee also said there was no intelligence failure and no delay in sending a CIA rescue team.

The Obama administration had been accused of mishandling its response.

Four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens, died in the raid carried out by Islamist militants.

'No stand-down order'

In a report released on Friday, the committee dismissed a claim that the CIA had not provided adequate security for its own agents near the Benghazi consulate and that the Obama administration had failed to send support.

It said it reached its conclusion based on "thousands of hours of detailed investigation" and interviews with senior American officials and the agents who had been on the ground during the attack on 11 September 2012.

"The CIA ensured sufficient security for CIA activities in Benghazi and, without a requirement to do so, ably and bravely assisted the state department on the night of the attacks," the report said.

"Appropriate US personnel made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the committee found no evidence that there was a stand-down order or a denial of available air support.

"The CIA received all military support that was available,"
the document added.

However, it concluded that the mission had inadequate security and therefore had required CIA assistance.
 
That should teach them not to try to attack us in a way designed to force Trump's hand to start a war with Iran.
Trump now needs to start getting us out.

They may have been planning attacks and that was the reason for the strikes, i'll buy that. That's different than forcing Trumps hand so he get's bad PR, i disagree. If we are being honest they didn't have to do anything if that was the goal, the MSN has that covered.
A new war will ensure they stay longer not come home sooner. That would be nice if it happened though.
 
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