Trump Goes to War Against Iran

nikcers said:
Its America's fault so Iran should be able to take over Iraq after we spent Trillions and Iran killed our soldiers fighting in Iraq? We took it over and we should give it to Iran for free???
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Iran didn't kill any US soldiers. US soldiers mostly just kill themselves.
 
AngryCanadian said:
You think its that simple? you Americans are still in Japan and still in the Balkans. Doing what? pretending to be delivering security? in fears that Russia or China wont take over Europe? :rolleyes:
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Trump is changing that. When we demanded Japan's surrender in world war 2 we promised to protect them from countries like China because China would want revenge against them. When Trump took office he said business as usual isnt going to happen. Japan has its own military its building up for the first time and he is making our other allies pay for defense. You keep pretending like Trump hasnt changed foreign policy significantly using old talking points are you just not paying attention??
 
mattniers said:
Iran didn't kill any US soldiers. US soldiers mostly just kill themselves.
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Yeah except Iran admits to funding and training and arming terrorists in the middle east that they call allies. That are basically proxy armies that have killed thousands of Americans. If i pay a hit man to kill you am I not liable?
 
nikcers said:
Yeah except Iran admits to funding and training and arming terrorists in the middle east that they call allies. That are basically proxy armies that have killed thousands of Americans. If i pay a hit man to kill you am I not liable?
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No they don't. Try again. Unless those thousands of Americans are ISIS members, then yes, Iran is guilty of killing American ISIS members which made Trump mad.
 
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nikcers said:
They do admit to being allys with groups that commit acts of terror in the middle east. Show me a source that refutes this.
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Which groups are those? Hezbollah in Lebanon hasn't killed any US troops or committed any acts of terror. Our good friend Saudi Arabia has funded hundreds of groups which commit terror attacks, yet Trump bends over and takes it up the ass for the Saudi terrorists.
 
nikcers said:
Its America's fault so Iran should be able to take over Iraq after we spent Trillions and Iran killed our soldiers fighting in Iraq? We took it over and we should give it to Iran for free???
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Nice of you to show your true colors, neocon.

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So if I'm understanding you, Iraq isn't Iran's back yard, though those two are right next door to each other, it's ours, though we are ten thousand miles away. And the reason why is Dubya and Cheney caused American blood and treasure to be wasted there, so even though that has been called, "The Biggest Foreign Policy Blunder in American History," we can't cut our losses. We have to continue to spill blood and treasure on it forever lest it be said American blood was spilt in vain. That about it?

Or is it about the oil to you? Trump voters all picked one or two of his mass of contradictory statements to use as an excuse for their vote. Was yours, "Take the oil"? Do you figure, just as spilling American blood in a boondoggle makes maintaining the boondoggle a moral imperative, that the most biggest dinosaur bones were found in Oklahoma, so all the dinosaurs belong to the U.S? And since nothing is left of them but oil...

Or maybe you just want your Raytheon, Boeing and Halliburton stock to go up.

Did you know they wrote a song about you?

 
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spudea said:
Or different things are different. I don't want war, but I also won't cower like a beaten dog when faced with lunatic killers like the leaders of Iran, they would happily kill you and everyone you ever cared about. If Trump wanted open war with Iran, there have been several prior opportunities that we saw him decline.
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LOL. The only really threatening lunatic killers in Iran to me and my family are most likely rogue CIA agents who keep pissing off Iranian citizens.

Serious Question? Are you in the military? If not why not back up your statement join the infantry and go be a big dog and fight the Iranian lunatics. Or are you a armchair warrior dog?
 
nikcers said:
They do admit to being allys with groups that commit acts of terror in the middle east. Show me a source that refutes this.
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"Acts of terror" is how you CHOOSE to frame the picture. Can't refute your opinion.
 
acptulsa said:
Nice of you to show your true colors, neocon.


So if I'm understanding you, Iraq isn't Iran's back yard, though those two are right next door to each other, it's ours, though we are ten thousand miles away. And the reason why is Dubya and Cheney caused American blood and treasure to be wasted there, so even though that has been called, "The Biggest Foreign Policy Blunder in American History," we have to maintain it forever lest it be said American blood was spilt in vain. That about it?

Or is it about the oil to you. Trump voters all picked one or two of his mass of contradictory statements to use as an excuse for their vote. Was yours, "Take the oil"? Do you figure, just as spilling American blood in a boondoggle makes maintaining the boondoggle a moral imperative, that the most biggest dinosaur bones were found in Oklahoma, so all the dinosaurs belong to the U.S? And since nothing is left of them but oil...
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Your backyard is your property.. We spent trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives there. Iran can't have it for free.
 
nikcers said:
Your backyard is your property.. We spent trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives there. Iran can't have it for free.
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You keep saying Iran can't have it for free. It won't be free for Iran either because they will struggle just as the US did. Iran will only have it for free if the Iraqis let them. And IF the Iraqis want Iran, then who are you to tell them otherwise?
 
Todd said:
LOL. The only really threatening lunatic killers in Iran to me and my family are most likely rogue CIA agents who keep pissing off Iranian citizens.

Serious Question? Are you in the military? If not why not back up your statement join the infantry and go be a big dog and fight the Iranian lunatics. Or are you a armchair warrior dog?
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In my experience if we only let people in the military decide if we go to.war its not going to get us into any less wars. Its not like they pay their own salary either. Thats like letting walmart decide if you are going to spend all your money there.
 
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nikcers said:
Your backyard is your property.. We spent trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives there. Iran can't have it for free.
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"I got shot stealing this from the rightful owner and had to pay a lawyer to get me off. You think I'm gonna let you have it?! It's mine!!
 
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