Trump Flips On Five Core Campaign Promises In Under 24 Hours

[Mordan]

Now you are on to something. Why did the average person vote for Trump? I mean the average person in real life, not this forum. I will prioritize:

1) America first. That meant many things to them. Jobs, trade, the wall, immigration, but even foreign policy. And America-first to them meant bombing some people. He said he'd bomb ISIS, but they don't know ISIS from al-qaeda from Assad. Most of them cheered Trump's missile attack. Many of them think he just attacked ISIS. They don't see the flip-flop. When he flips on the wall and immigration, then he might find resistance from his voters.

2) He wasn't Hillary. That will never change.

3) His brash, anti-PC, anti-establishment style. That is changing a bit, the targets of his brashness are changing as he joins with the establishment. If his voters begin to see him as the establishment, there is no flip in their eyes.

4) His vow to repeal and replace Obamacare.

5) Anti-globalism, anti-intervention, humble foreign policy. Most of the Trump voters tolerated that from Trump. They could care less if he flip-flops on that. They are cheering him for this flip-flop. Now the "libertarian" Trump voters might have had this as their number one reason, but they were the minority of the actual voters. Trump has no need for them if everyone else is cheering him on this.

you forget all the people from all walks of life supporting Trump because he kicked the MSM in the balls.

Rand needs Trump skills to handle the media questions. Trump's answers to the media trying to assassinate him are to be studied.

 

[acptulsa]

you forget all the people from all walks of life supporting Trump because he kicked the MSM in the balls.

Rand needs Trump skills to handle the media questions. Trump's answers to the media trying to assassinate him are to be studied.

What planet are you posting from? Is it nice there?

Trump's one and only media skill is getting his blather broadcast over the airwaves. And he achieved that by being reliable, as he just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt by breaking every campaign promise he ever made except the one about breaking the bank to make the MIC richer.

No, Rand Paul does not need this "Trump skill". Rand Paul would not be Rand Paul if he had this "Trump skill". He would then be just another establishment-planted cuck like Trump.

There are plenty of those. We don't need more.

Kicking the media in the balls isn't exactly easy if they never get within twenty yards of you, on the orders of their corporate masters. If I kick the media in the balls in the woods where no one can hear, and there is no film at eleven, do they howl in pain?

Do they wince as they drop me on the cutting room floor, or just laugh? Does it have any impact at all on Joe Sixpack either way?

Only reliable tools get the chance to handle the media. The "Trump skill" of which you speak is called Selling Out.

 

[CPUd]

Rand is essentially Ron with better media skills

 

[timosman]

Rand is essentially Ron with better media skills

a little better, but not impressive

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Not to mention getting banned from this site.

Hey, acptulsa! Welcome back! I didn't know you were banned; thought you were just taking a break.

 

[Mordan]

What planet are you posting from? Is it nice there?

Trump's one and only media skill is getting his blather broadcast over the airwaves. And he achieved that by being reliable, as he just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt by breaking every campaign promise he ever made except the one about breaking the bank to make the MIC richer.

No, Rand Paul does not need this "Trump skill". Rand Paul would not be Rand Paul if he had this "Trump skill". He would then be just another establishment-planted cuck like Trump.

There are plenty of those. We don't need more.

Kicking the media in the balls isn't exactly easy if they never get within twenty yards of you, on the orders of their corporate masters. If I kick the media in the balls in the woods where no one can hear, and there is no film at eleven, do they howl in pain?

Do they wince as they drop me on the cutting room floor, or just laugh? Does it have any impact at all on Joe Sixpack either way?

Only reliable tools get the chance to handle the media. Selling out is the "Trump skill" of which you speak.

Good back and study the replies here about Trump during the primary. Trump is going to implode. Trump that. Trump this.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Probably cause by anyone who criticized trump during the campaign were called cucks, Hillary supporters/voters, NWO puppets, globalists, and so on by a group on this site. Naturally when the stooge they were pimping out here as the greatest thing since sliced bread $#@!s up, people are going to rub it in. Predictable.

And nothing has changed those assertions.

 

[undergroundrr]

And nothing has changed those assertions.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-a-Business&p=6251913&viewfull=1#post6251913

"Hell, the man is even talking about getting us out of NATO. That IS also a good thing." - LibertyEagle

 

[LibertyEagle]

What planet are you posting from? Is it nice there?

Trump's one and only media skill is getting his blather broadcast over the airwaves. And he achieved that by being reliable, as he just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt by breaking every campaign promise he ever made except the one about breaking the bank to make the MIC richer.

Actually, that's not true. He stopped the Trans Pacific Partnership on his first day in office.

Not happy at all with him right now. Who knows; it's still early. He may do something else he promised. lol

No, Rand Paul does not need this "Trump skill". Rand Paul would not be Rand Paul if he had this "Trump skill". He would then be just another establishment-planted cuck like Trump.

Kicking the media in the balls isn't exactly easy if they never get within twenty yards of you, on the orders of their corporate masters. If I kick the media in the balls in the woods where no one can hear, and there is no film at eleven, do they howl in pain?

Do they wince as they drop me on the cutting room floor, or just laugh? Does it have any impact at all on Joe Sixpack either way?

Learning how to work the media is a valuable skill for someone in politics. It's a tool in their toolkit. Just like knowing Robert's Rules of Order. The more Rand knows how to do this, the more successful he will be IF he runs again. Because if he does, the media will do their best to destroy him. Should be no newsflash there.

 

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-a-Business&p=6251913&viewfull=1#post6251913

"Hell, the man is even talking about getting us out of NATO. That IS also a good thing." - LibertyEagle

Hhmmm. Did you notice what I bolded in what I quoted? That was what my remark was aimed at. Go try again now.

 

[undergroundrr]

Hhmmm. Did you notice what I bolded in what I quoted? That was what my remark was aimed at. Go try again now.

Yes I did. It's as if you bolded it for me to use. Anybody who continues to support trump is a Globalist NWO supporter. NATO is globalism itself.

 

[jmdrake]

Probably cause by anyone who criticized trump during the campaign were called cucks, Hillary supporters/voters, NWO puppets, globalists, and so on by a group on this site. Naturally when the stooge they were pimping out here as the greatest thing since sliced bread $#@!s up, people are going to rub it in. Predictable.

And nothing has changed those assertions.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-a-Business&p=6251913&viewfull=1#post6251913

"Hell, the man is even talking about getting us out of NATO. That IS also a good thing." - LibertyEagle

Hhmmm. Did you notice what I bolded in what I quoted? That was what my remark was aimed at. Go try again now.

My God you've lost your way LE! Do you realize that Ron Paul criticized Trump during the campaign? Do you think he is a "cuck" or "NWO puppet" or "Hillary supporter/voter?" Great Trump stopped the TPP. Great he put the kibash on the climate change protocols. It's an ill will that doesn't blow somebody some good. Obama got us out of Iraq sooner than Trump would have. (Trump joined in with the GOP jackasses who said we got out of Iraq too soon.) Obama didn't "bomb bomb bomb Iran" like McCain wanted to. Ron Paul called the Obama nuke deal and the opening of relations with Cuba "two most important achievements of an otherwise pretty dismal Obama presidency." So just because you can find a couple of things to like about the Obama third term of the Obama presidency doesn't mean that those who criticized Trump during the general election "Cucks, Hillary Supporters, NWO puppets" or whatever. In fact your boy Trump got money from George Soros. That, by definition, makes him a NWO puppet.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

My God you've lost your way ....

On the bright side, her avatar is finally appropriate again, only now she ironically fills the John McCain role.

 

[phill4paul]

On the bright side, her avatar is finally appropriate again, only now she ironically fills the John McCain role.

Ouch!

 

[AuH20]

Good back and study the replies here about Trump during the primary. Trump is going to implode. Trump that. Trump this.

That is a true statement. As bad or disappointing as Trump will likely be, this reailty will not cleanse the subjectivity of the haters. I think Jmdrake and one other stated that Trump would win, despite them being opposed to his dubious candidacy. Other people couldn't separate the hate from the political analysis.

 

[Pizzo]

And nothing has changed those assertions.

So anyone who did not support fuckhead are those things?

 

[afwjam]

Can the mods remove Liberty from LE name? Maybe she can be Cuck eagle or war eagle, something like that.

 

[Pizzo]

On the bright side, her avatar is finally appropriate again, only now she ironically fills the John McCain role.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

you forget all the people from all walks of life supporting Trump because he kicked the MSM in the balls.

That would fall under number 3...

 

[ARealConservative]

Can the mods remove Liberty from LE name? Maybe she can be Cuck eagle or war eagle, something like that.

that seems fair