Trump endorses Mehmet Oz in PA senate race

[jmdrake]

Bad choice, Trump never tried to force you to take it, Oz will.

That's the falsehood you have chosen to believe. The worst thing brought out about Oz is that he supports red flag laws. Donald Trump made those famous.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't understand this at all and I still understand it and Trump better than you.

It's not the things you don't know that are the problem, it's the things you "know" that aren't so and your inability to admit you don't know things.

Trump supports red flag laws. He endorses the candidate that supports red flag laws. What do you NOT understand about that?

 

[DamianTV]

Lets see... Dr. Oz vs Dr. Fauci.

Dr Oz - Does not support Mandatory Forced Vaccination
Dr Fauci - Wants Forced Vaccination because he makes money on the sick, so do his constituents.

 

[acptulsa]

Trump supports red flag laws. He endorses the candidate that supports red flag laws. What do you NOT understand about that?

You expect him to remember what happened in 2018? Anything that happened in 2018, much less something that doesn't fit his narrative?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

'What the hell was he thinking?': Pennsylvania conservatives react to Trump's support of Oz

Trump's Oz endorsement also came across as odd to a lot of former Trump confidantes who have either watched this race with interest or are working on the McCormick campaign.

 

[devil21]

More 44D chess from the master! Few Republicans will get excited about Oz (who btw has HUGE stock positions in big pharma) so if he wins the nomination, it's a 99% likely Democrat win. And if Oz manages to eek out a win.....it's still a Democrat win since he has zero conservative track record.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You don't even know you stole that line from Will Rogers. What else have you forgotten, besides who to attribute that quote to?

As if you would know what I knew about it.

I don't have to attribute all my paraphrasing. (or even direct quotes)

 

[Swordsmyth]

That's the falsehood you have chosen to believe. The worst thing brought out about Oz is that he supports red flag laws. Donald Trump made those famous.

I think his support of "transitioning" small children is just a bit worse, don't you?

Trump took the wind out of the left's sails about red flag laws with his lip service and I didn't support that strategy at the time. (or now)

 

[Swordsmyth]

You don't even know you stole that line from Will Rogers. What else have you forgotten, besides who to attribute that quote to?





Oh, and...

I'm going to move relevant posts here from previous discussion of what Massie REALLY said and what actually happened:

What you said and what Massie said are two different things.
Massie speculated that Pelosi wanted to use the bill to somehow launch a coup, that may or may not be what she was doing.
Trump wanting the same bill to be passed doesn't mean he had the same motive even if that is what Pelosi was doing.

If Trump was the only one who could invoke CoG then Trump knew he was not going to do it.

Massie was correct and his speculation was something to guard against but certain people around here have taken his concerns as established fact and that is just ridiculous.

I don't believe he was correct at all.
If Congress "passed" the bill her way it can't be "unable to function".
I did say his concerns were valid and worth guarding against in any case.
But even if he was right about Pelosi he only said Trump pressured him to let the bill pass, that does not mean Trump was in on any plot she had.
And Trump would not be the only one able to invoke CoG, if that was the plan he very well could have been misled.

And you do not need violence for a coup.
It's called a bloodless coup.

The relevant speech so people can hear for themselves that Massie never accused Trump of trying to suspend the Constitution:

The War On Us - Rep. Thomas Massie
https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/the-war-on-us-part2-massie:5

 

[acptulsa]

I'm going to move relevant posts here from previous discussion of what Massie REALLY said and what actually happened:









The relevant speech so people can hear for themselves that Massie never accused Trump of trying to suspend the Constitution:

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I don't see the controversy over Trump’s endorsement, unless someone is a McCormick supporter.

Trump doesn’t have any principles when it comes to endorsements. It’s all about who he thinks is on his side that day. It’s about what people have told him. It’s about his personal relationship, if any, with the candidate.

The history that no one discusses is that establishment Bushie neocons have been pushing McCormick on Trump for a long time. So much so that Trump offered McCormick jobs in his Administration and McCormick turned him down. Mattis brought him on later, but Trump fired him.

The personal history makes McCormick an enemy of Trumps. Trump probably likes that he was a hedge fund manager, but it’s the personal interactions that matter.

Oz is a fellow celebrity, Trump has a decent relationship with him, and Oz was probably pushed by Hannity. The biggest motivation would be that he is running against McCormick.

When Donald Trump was president-elect, he considered naming McCormick the U.S. Secretary of Treasury, but instead offered him the position of U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense.[26] However, he declined this position because he was happy with his role at Bridgewater. In early 2019, McCormick was under consideration for U.S. Secretary of Defense by the Trump administration.[27]

In 2017, McCormick was named by James Mattis as a member of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, a federal advisory committee to the U.S. Department of Defense. He was removed from this position by President Donald Trump in 2020 along with 11 other members with ties to the foreign policy establishment.[28]

 

[familydog]

This has to be his worst endorsement yet and I don't understand it.

Oz is the worst candidate in the race.

I do. Trump's personal feelings are sometimes more important than principles. We see this in other endorsements including dropping his support for Mo Brooks.

Trump was necessary for the time, but we need someone who is more Trumpian than Trump.

Otherwise we get Hollywood liberal grifters like Oz.

 

[jmdrake]

I think his support of "transitioning" small children is just a bit worse, don't you?

Worse than red flag laws? Nope. If they come for my grandkids (whenever I have some) I want to be well armed.

Trump took the wind out of the left's sails about red flag laws with his lip service and I didn't support that strategy at the time. (or now)

Bwwwaaaahhhaaa! No he didn't. He put red flag laws on the map. Even Rand Paul got caught up in that nonsense. That would be like saying "Dr. Oz supported transitioning little children to take the wind out of the left's sails about transitioning little children." That said, I'm glad you had and have the sense not to support that "strategy."

 

[devil21]

You expect him to remember what happened in 2018? Anything that happened in 2018, much less something that doesn't fit his narrative?

I guess since an election is approaching we're back to having to endure post-after-post of Swordy's obvious gaslighting and spin-doctoring. It sure was peaceful around here when that handle shut down for the past year.

 

[acptulsa]

I guess since an election is approaching we're back to having to endure post-after-post of Swordy's obvious gaslighting and spin-doctoring. It sure was peaceful around here when that handle shut down for the past year.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That's the falsehood you have chosen to believe. The worst thing brought out about Oz is that he supports red flag laws. Donald Trump made those famous.

Lets see... Dr. Oz vs Dr. Fauci.

Dr Oz - Does not support Mandatory Forced Vaccination
Dr Fauci - Wants Forced Vaccination because he makes money on the sick, so do his constituents.

Oz will support forced vaccination as soon as he is in office.

[h=1]Dr Oz on CCP’s brutal lockdowns in Wuhan: “We have to copy what they did"[/h]
https://rumble.com/v10qipm-dr-oz-on...s-in-wuhan-we-have-to-copy-what-they-did.html

 

[jmdrake]

Oz will support forced vaccination as soon as he is in office.

[h=1]Dr Oz on CCP’s brutal lockdowns in Wuhan: “We have to copy what they did"[/h]
https://rumble.com/v10qipm-dr-oz-on...s-in-wuhan-we-have-to-copy-what-they-did.html

And Trump tweeted that Georgia didn't lock down hard enough. Your selective outrage is disgusting.

https://www.11alive.com/article/new...itter/85-5b6fe20e-7cd1-49f5-b959-ce4c031b14b7

ATLANTA — President Donald Trump, once again took Gov. Brian Kemp to task Friday morning over the decision to begin reopening the state's businesses.

"I (or @VP) never gave Governor Brian Kemp an OK on those few businesses outside of the Guidelines," Trump tweeted.

The president insisted that Kemp should "do what is right for the great people of Georgia," in the tweet.

Today is the first day, under Kemp's new guidelines, that salons, spas, gyms, barbershops, tattoo parlors and bowling alleys are able to operate.

During his daily White House Coronavirus Task Force briefing Thursday, Trump said he was not happy with Kemp and the decision to reopen spas, beauty salons, tattoo parlors and bowling alleys as early as Friday.

RELATED: Coronavirus in Georgia | More than 22,000 confirmed cases; nearly 900 deaths

On Wednesday, he said he "strongly" disagreed with Kemp's move.

“I didn’t like to see spas opening, frankly. I didn’t like to see a lot of things happening and I wasn’t happy with it, and I wasn’t happy with Brian Kemp,” Trump said on Thursday. “I could have done something about it if I wanted to. But I’m saying let the governors do it, but I wasn’t happy with Brian Kemp."

Trump went on to say that he wants the people to be safe.

"I want people to be safe and I want the people of Georgia to be safe. I don’t want this thing to flare up because you decided to do something that is not in the guidelines.”​

 

[jmdrake]

I do. Trump's personal feelings are sometimes more important than principles. We see this in other endorsements including dropping his support for Mo Brooks.

LOL! I avoid watching "da news" (so much propaganda) so I missed this even though I live in Alabama now. The stupid January 6th protesters were just Trump toilet paper. Gotta love it!

Trump was necessary for the time, but we need someone who is more Trumpian than Trump.

Rand Paul was in the race. He was leading at one point. Trump sucked all of the air out of the room. We don't need someone more "Trumpian than Trump." We need someone more "Ronian than Rand."

Otherwise we get Hollywood liberal grifters like Oz.

Well Dr. Oz discovered the Trump secret formula. Live all of your life as a democrat, get famous on TV, then at the last minute give lip service to whatever is the biggest GOP issue of the day. For Trump it was "build the wall" (which at first he wasn't even going to build until Sean Hannity had a cow after Nancy Pelosi did a victory dance over stopping it.) For Oz it's "stop the mandates." People like [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] and [MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION] forget that Trump said BEFORE running for president that he supported an assault weapons ban. Then when Trump made pro gun control statements, rather than figuring out the obvious, that Trump was just going back to his roots, they defended actions like that as "4D chess." Yeah, it's 4D chess alright. It's just unclear which team the chess moves were meant to fool! I get the [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] argument that "I know this is a shyt sandwich....but if we don't eat it we get a cyanide sandwich." Trump was easily better than Hillary who openly wanted World War III and arguably better than Biden who, let's face it, doesn't even seem to be there. And Oz, if he gets the GOP nomination, will arguably be better than whoever the democrats nominate because at least he has to PRETEND to be anti authoritarian to keep his base. But during the PRIMARY, at the very least, we should be fighting for the best candidate. Folks jumped ship in 2016 and supported Trump during the PRIMARY and some while Rand was still in the race. Inexcusable.

 

[Invisible Man]

we need someone who is more Trumpian than Trump.

Otherwise we get Hollywood liberal grifters

Take a minute to enjoy the irony of this post.

 

[jmdrake]

we need someone who is more Trumpian than Trump.

Otherwise we get Hollywood liberal grifters like Oz.

Take a minute to enjoy the irony of this post.

LOL. Yep. Stockholm syndrome on display.