Trump election panel asks all 50 states for voter roll data

[TheCount]

Setting aside the details of Dump's request and just dealing with the philosophy, the Constitution states that the Federal government is to: guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government
Voter fraud destroys a "republican form of government"
Federal investigation of voter fraud is therefore Constitutional, the details may not be.

Are you saying that you believe that it was the founders' intent for the Federal government to oversee elections inside the states?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Are you saying that you believe that it was the founders' intent for the Federal government to oversee elections inside the states?

To correct Voter Fraud or other tyrannical actions that steal the power of government from the people.
Constant oversight is not necessary but would not be unconstitutional.

 

[angelatc]

It's a roundabout way of saying "get it yourself like everyone else does"

It clearly says Indiana law doesn't allow the SOS to provide the data. Even though the directive clearly states that state laws reign supreme.

 

[angelatc]

Are you saying that you believe that it was the founders' intent for the Federal government to oversee elections inside the states?

ARTICLE I, SECTION 4, CLAUSE 1

 

[CPUd]

It clearly says Indiana law doesn't allow the SOS to provide the data. Even though the directive clearly states that state laws reign supreme.

yes

 

[angelatc]

Maybe you should reread the directive yourself if you think that is even worth mentioning. Or go back to posting stupid cat photos.

Yep. On the rare occasions it tries to speak for itself, we see why most of its posts are simply links.

 

[spudea]

If there's no voter fraud then there is nothing to fear of an audit. At least audit their voter registration practices. California doesn't require an SSN and gives government IDs / drivers licenses to non-citizens / undocumented immigrants.

 

[CPUd]

https://twitter.com/GovernorTomWolf/status/880893706517315584

 

[specsaregood]

https://twitter.com/GovernorTomWolf/status/880893706517315584

another dumbass that cant read. They requested only information that is already publically available and specifically states only such information as is available by state laws.

 

[CPUd]

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/880822280795938816

 

[timosman]

another dumbass that cant read. They requested only information that is already publically available and specifically states only such information as is available by state laws.

Can we grandstand on this? Please clap.

 

[TheCount]

ARTICLE I, SECTION 4, CLAUSE 1

Does the establishment of a national voter database relate to the time, place, or manner of holding an election?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Does the establishment of a national voter database relate to the time, place, or manner of holding an election?

The Manner. Do they let ineligible people vote?

 

[TheCount]

The Manner. Do they let ineligible people vote?

Which election is this database for?

How does establishing a database of voters for an election that has already occurred affect the manner in which that election was conducted?

 

[timosman]

Which election is this database for?

How does establishing a database of voters for an election that has already occurred affect the manner in which that election was conducted?

It's about the future. If it helps you think about the children.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Which election is this database for?

How does establishing a database of voters for an election that has already occurred affect the manner in which that election was conducted?

It will be used for future elections.

 

[oyarde]

This guy should call me first . I will sell them all publicly available info .

 

[TheCount]

It will be used for future elections.

I'm sure that it would be. As a campaign database, certainly. Names, addresses, and voting histories? Decent money there.

Haven't heard anyone say that, but if what you claim is true, what empowered them to enact such a thing in the first place?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Does the establishment of a national voter database relate to the time, place, or manner of holding an election?

The Manner. Do they let ineligible people vote?

I'm sure that it would be. As a campaign database, certainly. Names, addresses, and voting histories? Decent money there.

Haven't heard anyone say that, but if what you claim is true, what empowered them to enact such a thing in the first place?

Setting aside the details of Dump's request and just dealing with the philosophy, the Constitution states that the Federal government is to: guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government
Voter fraud destroys a "republican form of government"
Federal investigation of voter fraud is therefore Constitutional, the details may not be.

I did not endorse this current effort, which I do not know enough about.
But 2 different pieces of the Constitution have already been cited to justify Federal action on voter fraud.

 

[TheCount]

But 2 different pieces of the Constitution have already been cited to justify Federal action on voter fraud.

Your article 4 argument makes no sense whatsoever, and the article 1 argument only applies if you just conveniently forget that article 1 is about the legislature and not the executive.


Edit: According to the Supreme Court, Article 4 enforcement is also a matter for the legislature. So that once's out too. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/48/1/