Trump and Putin meet in Alaska

[Snowball]

I don't know how anyone can possibly believe Putin would cede ANY of the four Russian oblasts which were formerly Ukrainian.

Russians would not allow it. It would be ILLEGAL.

This means I do NOT believe ANY reports that Russia is being asked to swap ANY of its constitutionally-incorporated regions in Ukraine.

Witkoff is one of Trump's connections to the real deciders, not the fake ones. What Witkoff told Putin is that the U.S. AND U.K. and FRANCE, GERMANY, etc.
ALL OF THEM >> are prepared to eventually sign a document that recognizes Crimea AND ALL FOUR OBLASTS are Russian. The U.S. will do it first.
The others may wait until new Ukrainian leadership also recognizes this change.

There is no way in hell Putin would even attend a summit like this if that were not the case.
It is why Witkoff went to Moscow and it is why Trump won't allow Zelensky to attend.

There may still be a timeline, however, because Trump is highly likely to also go to Russia.

What the UK, France and Germany say must be carefully interpreted. Yes, they support Ukraine.
But they are looking past Zelensky, and he knows it.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't know how anyone can possibly believe Putin would cede ANY of the four Russian oblasts which were formerly Ukrainian.

Russians would not allow it. It would be ILLEGAL.

This means I do NOT believe ANY reports that Russia is being asked to swap ANY of its constitutionally-incorporated regions in Ukraine.

Witkoff is one of Trump's connections to the real deciders, not the fake ones. What Witkoff told Putin is that the U.S. AND U.K. and FRANCE, GERMANY, etc.
ALL OF THEM >> are prepared to eventually sign a document that recognizes Crimea AND ALL FOUR OBLASTS are Russian. The U.S. will do it first.
The others may wait until new Ukrainian leadership also recognizes this change.

There is no way in hell Putin would even attend a summit like this if that were not the case.
It is why Witkoff went to Moscow and it is why Trump won't allow Zelensky to attend.

There may still be a timeline, however, because Trump is highly likely to also go to Russia.

What the UK, France and Germany say must be carefully interpreted. Yes, they support Ukraine.
But they are looking past Zelensky, and he knows it.

One of the few things I support Trump on:

 

[nikcers]

The jam resistant drones that the USA has helped Ukraine develop have proven to be a real force multiplier.

Instead of relying on human drivers these drones are increasingly driverless using AI chips.

So all of the electronic warfare in the world doesnt stop them from hitting their targets.

The USA has also cut off a significant amount of potential aid and resources that Moscow would traditionally receive from their allies.

Some of their allies are publicly stating that they won't give in to pressure but privately they are saying something different.

This very well could be the end of the road for Moscow and their ambitions to reestablish the Russian empire.

Or Ukraine will end up being the graveyard of the Russian Empire.

The fact that Russia is even receptive to discussing an end to the war at the very least projects weakness especially in the face of Trump who had issued a deadline before he would impose secondary tariffs against countries that do trade with Russia.

 

[Snowball]

Vance told Fox News that the current line of contact
between forces is the beginning of negotiation. Also that Zelensky may meet with both leaders at some later time.

If there is indeed some "swapping" of territory under control, the Ukrainian side holds more land inside Russian-claimed oblasts than Russia currently holds outside the four oblasts.

US backing Ukraine settlement based on current front line – Vance

Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are to meet on August 15 in Alaska for a summit

www.rt.com

I highlighted areas on the Southfront map from today. The yellow circles are Russian overstep outside of their claimed lands. The green squares are Ukrainian occupied land which Russia considers part of Russia but does not yet occupy.

 

[Occam's Banana]

 

[sparebulb]

Trump has murdered an Iranian representative lured to a peace negotiation.

Trump attacked Iran while in peace negotiations.

Trump is an enthusiastic cheerleader for Izrael's murder of several Hamas peace negotiators, as well as genocide.

Would Trump arrest or murder Putin during this peace negotiation?

I don't put it past him.

His neocon handlers could easily talk him in to doing it simply using the logic that if the Russians don't pull the trigger on thermonuclear war over that, then they never will and "we" will have gotten away with it and Russia looses all credibility.

Trump and his people are insane.

They are going to get us killed one way or the other.

I, for one, am going to be praying for Putin's safety.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Vance says US is ‘done with funding Ukraine war’ ahead of Trump-Putin talks

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-war-russia-trump-putin-vance-b2805117.html

Vance says US is ‘done with funding Ukraine war’ ahead of Trump-Putin talks

American vice-president also vows that Putin and Zelensky will be ‘forced’ to meet by Trump

www.independent.co.uk

 

[vita3]

Russia just started heavily bombing Kiev. They have left in largely intact.

Kyiv, Ukraine —
The death toll from Russia’s heavy bombardment of Ukraine’s capital this week has risen to 31 people, marking the deadliest single attack on Kyiv in a year, Ukrainian officials said on Friday.

The vast majority were killed in a single strike on an apartment block.

Rescue workers have now recovered the bodies of at least 28 people from the destroyed apartment block, including five children, the State Emergency Service (SES) told CNN. At least 159 people were also wounded in the blast.

“This is the highest number of injured children in one night in Kyiv since the beginning of the full-scale invasion,” Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko said.

More than 100 rescuers scrambled to the scene in Kyiv’s western Sviatoshynskyi district, working through the night and removing more than 2,000 tons of rubble as they searched for survivors in an ongoing operation.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/31/europe/ukraine-child-killed-russian-airstrike-latam-intl
The building was one of dozens of sites in the Ukrainian capital struck by Russian missiles and drones in the overnight attack, according to Tymur Tkachenko, the head of Kyiv’s military administration. He described the strike as a “direct hit” on the nine-story apartment building, hitting just before 5 a.m. local time Thursday (10 p.m. ET Wednesday).

 

[Snowball]

Russia just started heavily bombing Kiev. They have left in largely intact.

Kyiv, Ukraine —
The death toll from Russia’s heavy bombardment of Ukraine’s capital this week has risen to 31 people, marking the deadliest single attack on Kyiv in a year, Ukrainian officials said on Friday.

The vast majority were killed in a single strike on an apartment block.

Rescue workers have now recovered the bodies of at least 28 people from the destroyed apartment block, including five children, the State Emergency Service (SES) told CNN. At least 159 people were also wounded in the blast.

“This is the highest number of injured children in one night in Kyiv since the beginning of the full-scale invasion,” Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko said.

More than 100 rescuers scrambled to the scene in Kyiv’s western Sviatoshynskyi district, working through the night and removing more than 2,000 tons of rubble as they searched for survivors in an ongoing operation.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/31/europe/ukraine-child-killed-russian-airstrike-latam-intl
The building was one of dozens of sites in the Ukrainian capital struck by Russian missiles and drones in the overnight attack, according to Tymur Tkachenko, the head of Kyiv’s military administration. He described the strike as a “direct hit” on the nine-story apartment building, hitting just before 5 a.m. local time Thursday (10 p.m. ET Wednesday).

Unlike Ukraine, Russia does not target civilians. What happens is the Ukrainian air defense missiles miss, and then impact anywhere. There is also falling debris from hits, which causes fires. Here's an example. The other link is a recent attack of drones by Ukraine to Sochi. The Ukrainians never admit this and the fake news never says it was Ukrainian air defense. You have to look hard.

"The situation was further complicated as fires erupted in two different districts due to falling debris from intercepted drones, creating additional chaos in the city. The Sviatoshynskyi and Solomianskyi areas reported casualties as a result of this unfortunate incident."

Russian missile and drone assault on Kyiv results in at least 14 fatalities – Brussels Reporter

A recent missile and drone assault on Kyiv has become one of the most devastating attacks in weeks, tragically resulting in the deaths of at least 14 individual

brusselsreporter.com

Two civilians were killed, 11 injured in Sochi drone attack

Last night, the Russian Black Sea resort of Sochi came under a massive Ukrainian drone attack, which targeted an oil depot.The drone wreckage killed two women and injured another 11 people, according to the Krasnodar Region Governor Veniamin...

news-pravda.com

Drone attacks on Russia’s Sochi continue Kiev’s strikes on civilians — Kremlin

Dmitry Peskov said that Russian military is taking measures to coordinate air defense and minimize risks

tass.com

 

[vita3]

Unlike Ukraine, Russia does not target civilians. What happens is the Ukrainian air defense missiles miss, and then impact anywhere. There is also falling debris from hits, which causes fires.

My take is Ruskkies bombing more than ever & not as super concerned with civilian lives anymore. Just my take

 

[nikcers]

Unlike Ukraine, Russia does not target civilians. What happens is the Ukrainian air defense missiles miss, and then impact anywhere. There is also falling debris from hits, which causes fires.

My take is Ruskkies bombing more than ever & not as super concerned with civilian lives anymore. Just my take

Of course they shoot Ukraine civilians.

People that shoot Rockets and bombs and drones arent magical people that never miss.

Not even Michael Jordan in his prime never missed a shot.

You shoot 10s of thousands of missles and drones and bombs into a country and you are going to hit civilians and kids and babies because thats where they live.

You got these people who dont sleep and are probably wired up on stimulants and they are bombing the shit out of Ukrainian civilians.

They have done it every day for years now.

Some of those rockets just malfunction I have seen the video of a Russian rocket turning around and hitting Russians.

Russia has even dropped bombs on themselves.

 

[acptulsa]

Bot: You're contending target=shoot. Explain your illogic.

 

[nikcers]

Bot: You're contending target=shoot. Explain your illogic.

Cause and effect is hard.

If I shoot someone I shot them. 1+1 = 2

 

[Snowball]

I have seen the video of a Russian rocket turning around and hitting Russians.

Russia has even dropped bombs on themselves.

SNL ?

 

[nikcers]

SNL ?

 

[Snowball]

Sorry, I don't read or watch videos from British tabloids.

 

[nikcers]

Sorry, I don't read or watch videos from British tabloids.

 

[acptulsa]

Cause and effect is hard.

Bot says target:shoot equals cause:effect, then shows a video like that.

Just goes to show. Computers are incredibly fucking stupid.

 

[nikcers]

Bot says target:shoot equals cause:effect, then shows a video like that.

Just goes to show. Computers are incredibly fucking stupid.

Well the rockets dont shoot themselves do they?

Someone is doing the shooting.

 

[Snowball]

Fake News from 2022.

"In sum, several videos did appear to show a Russian missile landing short of where other missiles had been launched in the minutes prior, likely due to a malfunction of some sort. However, there's no evidence that it flew back directly into the area from which it was launched, nor was there any data that showed it injured or killed Russian troops. An alternate angle of what appeared to be the same missile being fired showed that it did not land on its own launch site."

Published June 24, 2022

Did Video Show Russian Missile 'Boomerang' in Ukraine, Striking Troops Who Launched It?

<meta charset=utf-8;utf-8">We looked for the origins of a viral video that supposedly showed a Russian missile undergoing an "epic malfunction" in Ukraine.

www.snopes.com

Real News from 2022:

27 September 2022 12:53
Statement by the Russian Federation on the false allegations against the Russian Federation made by Ukraine to cover-up its own violations of international law and military crimes against civilian population of Donbass as well as Kharkov, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions

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