Trump Administration Approves Airgun Blasting in Atlantic

And people on the Atlantic seaboard in coastal communities have made it very clear to Trump (as they did to Obama) that they do not want this.
Umm, they already have it, at least off of New England.

Due to the World Court "Hague Line" decision of 1984, Canadian territorial seas were moved south, west and east of Nova Scotia.

They are currently drilling in areas essentially 100 nm east of Bar Harbor.

Every East Coast governor except Maine’s governor has come out against this

LePage was smart enough to realize that.
 
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Even if you don’t care about the suffering, dying and extinction of intelligent, sentient, marine mammals, even if you don’t care that $billion dollar tourism and seafood economies along the east coast will be destroyed, do you really want to eat deformed shrimp, polluted fish and seafood, and push forward to a day when all life in our oceans are gone? Many here will say ‘yes’, and that is where i differ strongly with libertarians. i don’t want to live in a world overpopulated with humans that have completely exploited and destroyed the natural world: everytime i drive through the overpopulated northern Virginia where it’s a challenge to find a blade of green grass in a concrete jungle, i cringe. Joni Mitchell was right when she sang: “Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone; they paved paradise and they put up a parking lot.” I believe God wants us to care for the natural world and sentient beings we share this earth with, not destroy and exploit it for human and corporate greed, power, and selfishness. And apparently voting municipalities along the entire east coast, representing millions of people currently living in harmony with nature, agree.

You know how you reduce human impact and overpopulation?

By generating wealth.

First world nations reduce human impact and have declining birth rates.

You know how you generate wealth?

With cheap and easily obtainable energy.
 
And, yes, as is currently occurring in the Gulf of Mexico and in the one well off California’s coast, federal law allows the dumping of all extremely toxic fracking chemicals into federal waters for offshore fracking for gas.

Overlapping UN regulations and MARPOL regulations have declared the USGoM to be a "Special Area".

No discharges of any type, other than food waste ground to bits less than 25mm, and more than 12 miles offshore are permitted.

Waste cuttings, fracking chemicals, drilling fluids, household trash and dunnage are all collected for disposal and treatment at shoreside facilities.

It was, in fact, compliance with these regulations, that was a major contributor to the chain of events that led to the Deepwater Horizon disaster.
 
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Hurricanes in the Gulf Coast are relatively mild compared to the Atlantic

This is false.

The deadliest natural disaster EVER in US history was the 1900 Galveston, Texas hurricane.

Camille, Katrina, Rita, Harvey, Wilma (the most powerful hurricane ever) also come to mind.

All US GoM
 
I agree with bunklo. These companies shouldn't have to pay for any stinking permit. They should just go in there and do their blasting wherever they feel like it and have the hardware to blow away anybody that comes around trying to stop them.
That's not the point, we would all like even less government involvement but ending a BAN is an improvement.
 
i believe God wants man to live in harmony with, and care for, the natural world and all its sentient beings, not exploit and destroy it for greed, power, money and selfishness.

Fair enough.

I quit.

Now, pay my mortgage.
 
The coastal communities up and down the east coast and the $billions their economies generate from tourism and the seafood industry will be destroyed. Trump will destroy the livelihoods of millions of people for a finite amount of oil.

You know what destroyed the commercial fishing industry?

Government.

You know what did decades of damage to NJ tourism?

Garbage and needles on the beaches.

You know who dumped that shit?

Government.
 
So the Gulf is dying.

This also false, and all I have to do right this second is look.

If anything is doing damage, it is the algae blooms causing oxygen deprivation.

Triggered by runoff from the rivers, caused by fertilizer pollution.

Millions of tons of which are used to grow ethanol corn stock, to adulterate petroleum based gasoline, which makes it less efficient, more costly and a net energy loser.

Mandated by...government.
 
I totally agree with this- 1 billion %.

+ REP

So opening the doors to millions of poor, poorly educated, overbreeding migrants will help this situation how, exactly?

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Scientists predict by the year 2045 there will be no more wild fish in the sea because of overfishing and human pollution.

They predicted that commercially affordable petroleum would be gone by 2000.

They predicted that the US had hit "Peak Oil" in 1970 and that we would have to import more and more, at higher and higher prices, forever.

The US is now the largest producer in the world.

A gallon of gas costs less now, adjusted for currency devaluation, than it did in 1965.
 
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I could de-construct this all day long, point by point by point.

But this apparently has stuck a nerve, and elicited some really ugly responses, so I'm inclined to just drop it.

Go ahead, live in darkness, see if I care, dark is cheap and I'll get by...
 
I could de-construct this all day long, point by point by point.

But this apparently has stuck a nerve, and elicited some really ugly responses, so I'm inclined to just drop it.

Go ahead, live in darkness, see if I care, dark is cheap and I'll get by...

I was rather enjoying your deconstruction.
 
So you are angry that the American people get paid royalties from oil companies drilling and producing on federally "owned" offshore lease blocks?

Is that it?

Should I be keeping my eye out for a royalty check?:)

I could de-construct this all day long, point by point by point.

But this apparently has stuck a nerve, and elicited some really ugly responses, so I'm inclined to just drop it.

Go ahead, live in darkness, see if I care, dark is cheap and I'll get by...

I was rather enjoying your deconstruction.

Me, too.
 
I could de-construct this all day long, point by point by point.

But this apparently has stuck a nerve, and elicited some really ugly responses, so I'm inclined to just drop it.

Go ahead, live in darkness, see if I care, dark is cheap and I'll get by...

What about the whales?
 
I could de-construct this all day long, point by point by point.

But this apparently has stuck a nerve, and elicited some really ugly responses, so I'm inclined to just drop it.

Go ahead, live in darkness, see if I care, dark is cheap and I'll get by...

I was rather enjoying your deconstruction.

Same here.

AF, curious what your thoughts are on possible effects to humans near by?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-in-Atlantic&p=6716487&viewfull=1#post6716487
 
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